10/14 better then 12/12???

PowerPlantPuss

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Hi i have 2 plants that iv started to flower a few weeks ago. Im only getting a few white hairs at the moment so im thinking this is gonna b a long flowering session. the strain is afgan kush x skunk and there under cfl's each plant has 200watt each. there really healthy n all but would 10/14 help encourage flowering to kick in or would it b too harsh.

Any help/suggestions would b much appricated!!!!
 

Skunk#1

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I would say it is better for the 12/12 more light = bigger harvest
but I do switch to 10/14 for the last week it tells the plant to wrap things up its the end of the season
 

glockdoc

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hey you could do that, but me personally dont think its a good idea. like skunk says he does, 10/14 is a more natural thing to do when you are about to harvest. that would be mroe natural seeing how MJ plants wrap up and die during winter, and 10/14 best simulates that. but doing 10/14 will give u a plant that has a small yeild but finishes its flowering time alot faster then you did if you did 12/12. the main reason why i dont think u should do that is because the plant is going to sense the 10/14 and yes i will go into flower mode, but then wehn u switch to 12/12 is going to probably get confused (yes a plant being confused) because the dark hrs went up 2 hrs, so it might sense that winter is wraping up which will not benefit u in anyway i dont think. try it if your want. 12/12 is more standard because if u have a plant flowering under 10/14 it will yeild little, but will have a shorter flowering period. if u had a plant under 14/10 it will yeild alot, but it will take a longer time for flowering. work with this fact
 

PowerPlantPuss

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wait an idea! every week from now on im gonna knock off 15minutes of light. now its on 12/12 but next sunday it will only have 11:45 light then half 11 and so on so each month the time goes down an hour. so by week 8 (hopefully all will b ready) it will b 10/14 its kinda more natural ... no sacrifice no victory!
i dont think of what i can do to maximize my yeild, i think of what i can do to make my plants as happy as possible:bigjoint:
karma baby treat ur plants with love and affection and they treat u back with a beautiful harvest!!!
 

PowerPlantPuss

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Hmmmm........That actually sounds like it might be a good idea you have there!! It WOULD more closely duplicate nature. You might be on to something.
thank you! everyone is tryin to get as close to the natural thing as possible, what could b more natural then that!

im gonna give it a stab nothing to loose by doing it who knows what its could do bu only 1 way to find out!!!
 

natedogg789

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thank you! everyone is tryin to get as close to the natural thing as possible, what could b more natural then that!

im gonna give it a stab nothing to loose by doing it who knows what its could do bu only 1 way to find out!!!

Ya that is a good idea!! might have to try that
 

ganjaluvr

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Once the marijuana plant has reached 12" height, or the height of your choice, it is time to start the flowering phase. The plant will begin to preflower, then it will fully flower.
The 24/0 light cycle is changed at this time. This can be changed to a straight 12/12 cycle, or it can be set at 14/10 and slowly adjusted until the 12/12 cycle is reached. Some growers will take the light steadily back to a 10/14 schedule, or even as far back as an 8/16. This depends on each grower`s preference.
Preflowering usually begins in the 4th week of vegetation.Preflowering can only be detected by magnification. At the 4th node down the stem, you should be able to see the tiny pear - shaped node which identifies the female, along with the two tiny pistils. Occasionally the pistils will not develop for several days into pre - flowering. Make sure you know whether your plant is male or female before you decide to pull it.
Full flowering begins 1 to 2 weeks after changing the light schedule. In a matter of days, most or all of the nodes on the marijuana plant will be covered in white pistils. These will begin to develop into flowers, which will reach their maturity in 6 to 8 weeks` time.
The buds will also develop at these same nodes. They will be covered with white crystals, and near maturity the trichomes may be seen. These start out as clear and white and turn amber or darker as the tiny white pistils turn red or dark. When you see these changes beginning to occur, pay close attention to your plant, because harvest time is near.
The buds may be harvested when the trichomes or white, or you may wait until they darken. Often some buds will be ready while the trichomes in others are still developing the right colors. If this should happen, if you can, then cut the ripened buds and leave the rest to develop for a week or two longer. This will ensure a maximum yield.




Hope that helped you out some??? I dunno. :) Good luck either way man.


-Peace. :peace::blsmoke:
 

glockdoc

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wait an idea! every week from now on im gonna knock off 15minutes of light. now its on 12/12 but next sunday it will only have 11:45 light then half 11 and so on so each month the time goes down an hour. so by week 8 (hopefully all will b ready) it will b 10/14 its kinda more natural ... no sacrifice no victory!
i dont think of what i can do to maximize my yeild, i think of what i can do to make my plants as happy as possible:bigjoint:
karma baby treat ur plants with love and affection and they treat u back with a beautiful harvest!!!
go for it bro. sounds good. remember about the whole nautral conecpt....being natural would be giving the plant the amount of light closest to how much light they get from where they origianted from...ie. most sativa strains will never see that much dark period and such a short period of light mostly because there near the equator where there is almost an equal amount of light 12/12, 11/13, 14/10. indica is a cooler climate strain only because its grown where the winter months get cold..due to the location of the sun and the amount of light hr. what im tryin to say is that most strains out there are mixed. almost all seeds come from seed banks that think of concepts liek this and breed the plants to this concept. ever think of why sativa plants really take 10+ weeks to flower? the light hrs are 12/12 if not that 14/10 or 13/11 where they grow. so geneticly they take longer to flower. u dig? tryin to make ur plant happier...check its history and genetics and try to replicate to ur best the enviornment in which they originated from. :peace: Glock
P.S. 10/14 will make ur plants finish faster like i said a couple of days ago. you think ur plants are happy that there gonna die quicker then there suppose to?
 

PowerPlantPuss

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go for it bro. sounds good. remember about the whole nautral conecpt....being natural would be giving the plant the amount of light closest to how much light they get from where they origianted from...ie. most sativa strains will never see that much dark period and such a short period of light mostly because there near the equator where there is almost an equal amount of light 12/12, 11/13, 14/10. indica is a cooler climate strain only because its grown where the winter months get cold..due to the location of the sun and the amount of light hr. what im tryin to say is that most strains out there are mixed. almost all seeds come from seed banks that think of concepts liek this and breed the plants to this concept. ever think of why sativa plants really take 10+ weeks to flower? the light hrs are 12/12 if not that 14/10 or 13/11 where they grow. so geneticly they take longer to flower. u dig? tryin to make ur plant happier...check its history and genetics and try to replicate to ur best the enviornment in which they originated from. :peace: Glock
P.S. 10/14 will make ur plants finish faster like i said a couple of days ago. you think ur plants are happy that there gonna die quicker then there suppose to?

thanks for the info. my plants are indica afgan kush x skunk and they thrive in mountainous areas that get as little as 8hrs sun per day. I no my shit when it comes to this strain and pure power plant my 2 preffered indica strains

think of it this way -15minutes light each week will hardly make it ready for harvest in half the time and im not aiming for a quick harvest im aiming for top quality smoke. its just something i wanna play around with.

PS:"you think ur plants are happy that there gonna die quicker then there suppose to??" correct me if im wrong but is my method not the way nature intended them to die? gradually so they can brace and prepare themselves
 

jordisgarden

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nature doesnt neccisarily provide the best situation for plants to grow. which is why i love indoors. im god in my grow room. just because it happens outside doesnt mean its best for the plant....tornadoes happen outside but i dont want one in my grow room.
if you think about it, wouldnt we be able to provide a better environment indoors because we control every aspect?
like maybe just because they get 10/14 outside doesnt mean its better, its just the way nature is.
 

glockdoc

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thanks for the info. my plants are indica afgan kush x skunk and they thrive in mountainous areas that get as little as 8hrs sun per day. I no my shit when it comes to this strain and pure power plant my 2 preffered indica strains

think of it this way -15minutes light each week will hardly make it ready for harvest in half the time and im not aiming for a quick harvest im aiming for top quality smoke. its just something i wanna play around with.

PS:"you think ur plants are happy that there gonna die quicker then there suppose to??" correct me if im wrong but is my method not the way nature intended them to die? gradually so they can brace and prepare themselves
i wasnt tryin to sound like an ass and such but i just wanted to let u know that light/dark directly relates to how long a plant flowers and how much flower is produced. breeders and seendbanks have def. messed around with time to see how it affects the plant. experiments liek 14/10 shown more of a bigger yeild longer wait; when 10/14 showed less yeild less wait. so from that scientificly light/dark hrs relate to yeild and flowering time. 12/12 is only recommended because its in the middle of those two lighting patterns. granted u can do 13/11 and it will give u a bigger yeild then 14/10 and a lil less flowering time then 14/10 and vice versa for longer dark periods. with 12/12 u get the best of both worlds -->yeild/flowering time which is why you hear and read from everythign 12/12. yes i know ur not going for yeild, but just quality. yes, how u grow and what u feed it can affect quality, but quality is in the genetics. shwag derivied from some type of sativa indica mix, but geneticly the quality of the shit is garbo so its garbo weed. plants have a time sensor built right into them. it will sense the light change and adjust to it. it is a livign thing. if theres no hurry to harvest, and u really want quality buds stick with the 12/12.....if not let me know how it goes brotha man.
 

grow space

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And, to increase the sticky stuff, that sweet stick stuff, then , at the final week of bloom, you switch the lights 24H/0, total darkness...stress it out a bit, by shacking the stem and easily shacking the pots..but only at the final week, on final 1-3 days, can be even more, better if like 5 days...

Int it wonderful how you can increase the potency and yield by doing this and trying these methods...




:peace: ya good ppl....:peace:
 

strain stalker

New Member
...I have a video with Tim Faulger, a mj activest, explain in detail, " When you see the first sign of the hairs begining to turn red (sometime near week #5), you want to start your flush by giving water only and start giving them 14 hours of light. This will give your plants maximum thc production."
 

PowerPlantPuss

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im just so god dam curious!!!! if it flops it flops i wouldnt loose a nights sleep over it but i just wanna know the outcome. u never no it might/better b a success lol
ill take some snaps and ill keep a weekly log starting sunday lol 8 pics 8 reports and maybe a pic of my cat
no point startin a new thread ill just use this 1
 

glockdoc

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nature doesnt neccisarily provide the best situation for plants to grow. which is why i love indoors. im god in my grow room. just because it happens outside doesnt mean its best for the plant....tornadoes happen outside but i dont want one in my grow room.
if you think about it, wouldnt we be able to provide a better environment indoors because we control every aspect?
like maybe just because they get 10/14 outside doesnt mean its better, its just the way nature is.
yea u can be god...of the room, but unless you did some serious breeding, ur not gonna change the genetics of a plant, nevermind one that is already growing. im not tryin to start any arguments with u or ne thing, im just tryin to help us all out. yea tornadoes are bad, so arent volcanos and floods, but in some places in the world, volcanos and floods fuck shit up for people just like tornados, but at the same time, it puts back all types of minerals and such back into the earth. hawaii has probably the richest soil in the wolrd, only because of volcanos. same thing with floods. ask the chineese about the yellow river. the shit floods and kills people yea, but they dont mind becuase im makes their farming land better for next season. im sure tornadeos benefit the earth some...maybe not us people. peace.
 

alexonfire

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And, to increase the sticky stuff, that sweet stick stuff, then , at the final week of bloom, you switch the lights 24H/0, total darkness...stress it out a bit, by shacking the stem and easily shacking the pots..but only at the final week, on final 1-3 days, can be even more, better if like 5 days...

Int it wonderful how you can increase the potency and yield by doing this and trying these methods...


:peace: ya good ppl....:peace:
Never heard of that one, interesting
 

PowerPlantPuss

Active Member
its worth a shot worst case i have a slightly smaller crop best case if the smoke us insanely good ( fuck all odds of that but worth a try ) n it would benifit everyone if it works. if not atleast this thread is here to inform people thinking what im thinking...
 

grow space

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its worth a shot worst case i have a slightly smaller crop best case if the smoke us insanely good ( fuck all odds of that but worth a try ) n it would benifit everyone if it works. if not atleast this thread is here to inform people thinking what im thinking...
:confused:what will u try..?!
 
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