14w LED - Good For Nothing???

NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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On Amazon and Ebay one of the most popular 'LED GROW LIGHTS' is a 225 mini-diode, 14w unit.

Yes, you read correctly.
Each of the 225 diodes has a power of 0.06w.
Or about 14w total
But when you consider that LED's often burn at 50% capacity....
SEVEN WATTS.....???

The customers of these items seem quite pleased.
One guy who wrote a bad review was cyber-lynched by angry buyers.
He had said that 'Red and blue light appears white. The red and blue in this LED are just mini disco lights....'.

This 14w LED is often sold as a PROPAGATOR LIGHT
but, at 7 to 14w actual output, is there any point AT ALL in using one....???

It would be a nice, colourful light to use as a night light in the bedroom of a 7 year old girl
but GROW LIGHT....???
I HAVE SEVERE DOUBTS.
 
jswett1100

jswett1100

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I could see them working if you had 100 of them, which would be pretty dope cause im guessing there cheap
 
Slipon

Slipon

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you would be much better of with a handful of those

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can get em with different fittings (Etc. E14 and E27) also on ebay, make sure to go for a majority in 3000K or less, specially for flowering 5000K can also work, IMO it would be optimal with a 2-1 ratio
 
Greengasm

Greengasm

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Sorry in advance NoE, not trying to thread jack.. Maybe the question will have a useful answer to you too..

Hey Slipon. Would the LED bulbs with E27 fitting 'plug and play' with my light bar? I have a piece of wood with 3 E27 ceramic fittings screwed in and wired up to one plug. I'm shite with electrics.. Would it be cool to plug the LED bulbs in with CFLs at the same time on the same plug? Thanks
 
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HrilL

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I owned a few of those lights you are talking about. They pull about 7.5watts on a Kill A Watt. They're pretty much worthless and I wouldn't spend any money on them. Even having them in a dark room and turning it on you'll see that they don't produce much light. On Amazon there is a lot of reviews on these type of lights. They're complete and utter trash. I wouldn't even use them to try to grow clones or start seedlings.
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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Flaming Pie said:
Buy cfls for first grow. Then upgrade to hps. Or buy hps now.
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GUYS, GUYS, GUYS....!!!!
I'm not asking if they're worth buying - they're FOURTEEN WATTS!!! for fuck's sake!

And, as for 'Buy a CFL, then work up to HPS...'
I have a LUMATEK 1000w, 2 x 600w Maxibrights, a 600w Lumii and a 200wCFL (6400k).

I just wanted to hear if there was one single, solitary thing they could be used for....?

NO

Oh well.
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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Greengasm said:
Sorry in advance NoE, not trying to thread jack.. Maybe the question will have a useful answer to you too..

Hey Slipon. Would the LED bulbs with E27 fitting 'plug and play' with my light bar? I have a piece of wood with 3 E27 ceramic fittings screwed in and wired up to one plug. I'm shite with electrics.. Would it be cool to plug the LED bulbs in with CFLs at the same time on the same plug? Thanks
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Not a problem. Greengasm.
I'm interested to read the answer myself.
(I thought LED's needed a DRIVER???).
 
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Limbistic

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The led e27/g10/ect bulbs have the drivers built in. If the true watted (what's used) isn't listed expect it to be 1/3-1/2 of the listed wattage.

The 14w panel "might" grow lettuces/herbs? I think I saw a video were a 21w-ish grow some lettuces.
 
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dittodog

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I also saw these online and was puzzled by the positive reviews. My thought - they "might" be good for house plants (not weed) that need some supplemental light in winter or something like that. To call them GROW lights would have to be extremely limited... Perhaps right on top of a clone box...
 
hyroot

hyroot

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plenty of people on here have grown big frosty buds and big yields with these hitting 1 gpw. using 10-20 of them

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-60W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-A19-Dimmable-LED-Light-Bulb-BA19-08027OMF-12DE26-2U100/204592770

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-60W-Equivalent-Bright-White-3000K-A19-LED-Light-Bulb-420240/203248902

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/656542-flowering-cree-bulbs.html

cree are the best leds and they happen to use x-te's best spectrum for plant growth and 80 cri

philips lumileds are up there too. they have 83 cri
 
tebos

tebos

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They probably have their place in some Micro Grows or maybe veg rooms.BUT the diodes you mean (the round ones, you know) aren't efficient or worth using at all, the technology is a few decades old and outdated in terms of radiometric efficiency, even CFLs are better. There are E27 bulbs with Red/Blue and 3W diodes available, you recognize them because of their optics.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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tebos said:
They probably have their place in some Micro Grows or maybe veg rooms.BUT the diodes you mean (the round ones, you know) aren't efficient or worth using at all, the technology is a few decades old and outdated in terms of radiometric efficiency, even CFLs are better. There are E27 bulbs with Red/Blue and 3W diodes available, you recognize them because of their optics.
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pshh check the thread I posted. Like I said 1 gram per watt. almost half a pound per plant. thats no micro grow. Whites are far more efficient and effective than red / blue. The area 51's use cree x-te's . old tech my ass.. thats why cree is at the top of their game. cfl's can't even step to the globes.
 
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dittodog

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hyroot said:
pshh check the thread I posted. Like I said 1 gram per watt. almost half a pound per plant. thats no micro grow. Whites are far more efficient and effective than red / blue. The area 51's use cree x-te's . old tech my ass.. thats why cree is at the top of their game. cfl's can't even step to the globes.
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Fyi - I think you are confusing the OP post and follow up posts. The Cree Area 51s and such are definitely tops, but the decades old statement was in regards to the 14watt 225 bulb $10 panels that call themselves grow lights.
 
OrangeHaze

OrangeHaze

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yea, I would avoid those cheap panels like the plague, at best they might be useful for germinating and seedlings and such after you realize they wont do shit for your plants. they just have no intensity.
 
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SnotBoogie

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hyroot said:
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he didnt mean it to be directed at you

Also while XT-Es are wicked and make up half of my array, i wouldnt say they were the exclusive "best"... OSLON SSL whites for example also have really good spectral distribution (like XTE but a few nm towards red) and iirc same radiometric efficiency. That said ive been out the loop for half a year now so i bet there are better options. when i was last about XML2s were just coming out.
 
Kanaplya

Kanaplya

Member
I have a few single 25W Red (660nm) LEDs I use to supplement my large LEDs and HPS by setting them up on my best colas to increase THC production in flower. But they are composed of 5x5W diodes in each lamp, 0.06w sounds almost like it would absorb light rather then produce it, lol.
 
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