4'x4' one plant ScrOG? Perpetual every 2 weeks? help!

Zdeezy

Zdeezy

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Alright so heres the scoop. right now I'm harvesting 4 plants every 2 weeks for a total of 16 plants in flower and 8 in veg. Im getting 4 oz per plant. I top them a week before flower and trim them about 1/3 of the way up 1 week into flower. (thinking about changing that into the 2nd week of flower so its at its full stretch. Any input on this?) Heres my setup:

2x 600w sun master hps (flower)
2x 1000w sun master hps (flower)
1000w sun master cool deluxe (veg)

Air cooled hoods for flower with 8" inline
4x4 sunsoaker open hood for veg
Dual hose portable 12,000 btu ac
sealed room with co2
70 pint dehu

Nutes:
Dark energy
Pro-tekt
Sensi Grow A & B
epsom salt to help with mag. deff.
Connioussure A & B
Bud ignitor
Big Bud
Overdrive
PH at 6.5
Roots organic 707 (I'm also trying out the Original and the Green light) i want to find what i like best
7 Gal pots

I want to cut down on my number of plants but i want to still yield a lb every 2 weeks. I am a caregiver for my girlfriend and one of my good friends. Im still under my legal limit but its a lot of work to take care of all of the plants and work 48 hours a week and go to college full time. So i was thinking about doing 1-2 plant massive ScrOG's. the space is 10.5'x9' (thats the space for the plants, i still have another 5' for workspace so the room really is 10.5'x14'.) So i was thinking about doing 4x4 boxes with either 1-2 plants under each screen. Im currently growing Sour kush, White fire OG, Sour Diesel, Blueberry Skunk, Bubba kush, Emerald jack, pineapple express, and Star 47. The 2 i think will be best for a scrog will be the sour kush and White fire og. i veged the sour kush for 5 weeks and they are all 6' tall there 4th week of flower and very straight with thick solid branches, and loves being toped. same with the white fire. You think if i veged for say 8 weeks i could fill a 4'x4' screen with 1 plant? or would i be better off doing 2 plants with like a 4 week veg? Im looking for the least amount of work with the most yield. I know it sounds crazy to pull a lb off 1 plant but I've seen it done. I got 8oz off my white fire with a 4 week veg. How do you go about doing a perpetual scrog grow? aren't you supposed to veg the plants into the screen? or can i veg until the plants a little taller than the screen and then feed it through it myself when its ready to go to flower? I really want to do a scrog but i don't want to fuck it up. Ive looked at a lot of peoples journals and they have really helped me a lot. I would just like some input on the set up i have and if it can be done? Thanks everyone!!
 
DOSED

DOSED

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1st, your the man. you should check out the scroggers united post in adv growing for some answers.
 
Zdeezy

Zdeezy

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DOSED said:
1st, your the man. you should check out the scroggers united post in adv growing for some answers.
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Ive read alot of that and got alot of great info and the basics of what i need to do. I just want some input on if i should do 1.or 2 plants under each screen?
 
ru4r34l

ru4r34l

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2 plants.

There is not a definate number or rule to abide by, you really just want to fill you screen properly by the end of the SCRoG. I am working on a 4'x4' 4-strain SCRoG, so each strain only has a 1'x1' area and I usually veg for about 5 - 7 weeks and flower for 9 weeks or there abouts.

Perpetual SCRoG's will take some thinking, becuase of the unknown veg time it makes it hard but if you have two rooms just run them on alternating cycles from each other flip flopping; it's not the bang on bi-weekly harvests but while one veg's the other blooms.

Go with 2 plants in each 4'x4' space, and if at all possible throw some MH lamps in the 600W and use the 100W HPS + 600W MH, the shitty thing is you wll have to swap tem bi-weekly for even dual-spectrum coverage.

regards,
 
JASON79

JASON79

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Zdeezy said:
Alright so heres the scoop. right now I'm harvesting 4 plants every 2 weeks for a total of 16 plants in flower and 8 in veg. Im getting 4 oz per plant. I top them a week before flower and trim them about 1/3 of the way up 1 week into flower. (thinking about changing that into the 2nd week of flower so its at its full stretch. Any input on this?) Heres my setup:

2x 600w sun master hps (flower)
2x 1000w sun master hps (flower)
1000w sun master cool deluxe (veg)

Air cooled hoods for flower with 8" inline
4x4 sunsoaker open hood for veg
Dual hose portable 12,000 btu ac
sealed room with co2
70 pint dehu

Nutes:
Dark energy
Pro-tekt
Sensi Grow A & B
epsom salt to help with mag. deff.
Connioussure A & B
Bud ignitor
Big Bud
Overdrive
PH at 6.5
Roots organic 707 (I'm also trying out the Original and the Green light) i want to find what i like best
7 Gal pots

I want to cut down on my number of plants but i want to still yield a lb every 2 weeks. I am a caregiver for my girlfriend and one of my good friends. Im still under my legal limit but its a lot of work to take care of all of the plants and work 48 hours a week and go to college full time. So i was thinking about doing 1-2 plant massive ScrOG's. the space is 10.5'x9' (thats the space for the plants, i still have another 5' for workspace so the room really is 10.5'x14'.) So i was thinking about doing 4x4 boxes with either 1-2 plants under each screen. Im currently growing Sour kush, White fire OG, Sour Diesel, Blueberry Skunk, Bubba kush, Emerald jack, pineapple express, and Star 47. The 2 i think will be best for a scrog will be the sour kush and White fire og. i veged the sour kush for 5 weeks and they are all 6' tall there 4th week of flower and very straight with thick solid branches, and loves being toped. same with the white fire. You think if i veged for say 8 weeks i could fill a 4'x4' screen with 1 plant? or would i be better off doing 2 plants with like a 4 week veg? Im looking for the least amount of work with the most yield. I know it sounds crazy to pull a lb off 1 plant but I've seen it done. I got 8oz off my white fire with a 4 week veg. How do you go about doing a perpetual scrog grow? aren't you supposed to veg the plants into the screen? or can i veg until the plants a little taller than the screen and then feed it through it myself when its ready to go to flower? I really want to do a scrog but i don't want to fuck it up. Ive looked at a lot of peoples journals and they have really helped me a lot. I would just like some input on the set up i have and if it can be done? Thanks everyone!!
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what about growing like me :):):)

i am just in my 3rd week of flower
 

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decrimCA

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JASON79 said:
what about growing like me :):):)

i am just in my 3rd week of flower
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Your AN grow looks amazing. Lots more nutrients than I would use outside of the AN growing schedule, but hey, everyone has their own style.

I stick with the Advanced Nutrients Expert Grower bundle - awesome nutrients there.
 
Zdeezy

Zdeezy

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JASON79 said:
what about growing like me :):):)

i am just in my 3rd week of flower
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Looks like your doing 1 plant under a 600w? Ive decided im going to do something along those lines. Im going to just do 8 plants total (2 every 2 weeks) so that will be 4 plants per 1600w. Im going to move up from 7gal pots to 15 gal pots and veg for 5 weeks with and LST. I figure this will be just as effective as a scrog because i will be able to open up my plants to get light penetration all the way down. I would like to know some more details on your setup if you dont mind me asking.

Thank you everyone for all of your replies, they are very appreciated!
 
JASON79

JASON79

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hi Zdeezy

here's some pic's
and this should give you a better ideal of my set up
yes i have 2 plant under 2 600w hps
the strain i have is critical mass
http://www.headsite.com/critical-mass-seeds--mr-nice-seedbank-163-p.asp
i would grow and flower 1-2 packets of seeds and get the best phone

this is the only way i know you will get a very large yields and best smoke
 

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JASON79

JASON79

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if you have some in flower and some in veg it works very well
and over half the veg time is done in small pots
so i am sure Zdeezy can get it to work, if got some room for veg
 
JASON79

JASON79

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you will get more with topping and lst because you what to take some out every 2 weeks
the plants can gain half the size or more in flower, so rotating the plants in your setup will give the plants more light when they need it
so first 2 weeks under 600w and next 4 weeks under 1000w and back to 600 for last 2 weeks,
what do you think
 
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lighting

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imo topping should only be used if you got height issues other then that your only cutting a bud site off super cropping , fimming will create lots of bud sites
LST'ng should be done at its early stage in life so by the time you transplanted into final pots lst'ng is done and super cropping and fimming comes into play trying to maintain a even canopy and more bud sites
lolli popping a plant should be started at this stage 2 weeks prior to flowering bottom branch cleaning pruning etc
taking them cuttings an re cloneing your girls
Not sure about the power but obviously more is better in flower i wouldn't take power away last 2 weeks but in a sense adding power prob 2 - 3 weeks into flower so what two 600's HPS for first 2 - 3 weeks of flower then added 1000 watt till chop day
 

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JASON79

JASON79

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ok thank

i have got a height issue so i top my plants and get good results
your grow does look a lot better than mine
i have tried fimming in the past but it did not work very well for me, does it work on some strains and not others ?

i thought that plant need less light in the last two weeks
and they need less light in veg and when u turn over to flower it can take 3+ weeks to start flowering

thanks
 
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