A Nightmare for the Left ...

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Most republican strategist are saying that Rice in the VP spot would be a death knell to the McCain campaign. She is too tied to the Bush Administration, she wasn't very effective as a secretary of state and is incompetent when it comes to foreign policy.... By all means Condoleezza Rice, run for VP.
Maybe she could get her old job back on the board of directors at Exxon/Mobil

Man o man.... I think McCain would love her.. that chick is loyal like a MO FO... she would stay on a sinking ship... and McCain's gotta value loyalty..

That woman presents well, smart, comes across like a straight shooter...

EXPERIENCE GALOR

I sure as fook don't like her politics.. but I have always been impressed by how she carries herself...

Probably the most dignified presence in the current admin...

She's like a chill cat amongst rabid dogs
 

john.roberts85

Well-Known Member
errrrrr....... point taken. Of course, the children of such childwomen are presumable very, very young and are not going to be 'traumatized for life' by being taken in and raised in a hopefully non-abusive setting, hopefully by their mothers; organized mass child-abuse cannot be allowed to continue unchecked. Our country is large and full of vast spaces and interstices where freedom of thought and action can take place; that is a good thing. But when such interstices blossom into the foul cancers such as the FLDS that affect generations of citizens the state has a duty to interfere. I think that my objection to med's assertion that governments should stay out of 'family business' still holds water. What remedies should exist to prevent crimes against persons if local communities accept and condone them?
No, I agree with you. I was just pointing out that they're most likely doomed to a miserable life; it's sad.
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
No, I agree with you. I was just pointing out that they're most likely doomed to a miserable life; it's sad.
Yeah, but I had forgotten about the extreme youth of the mothers. It boggles the mind what humans can do. It's very sad. My guess, though, is that the mainstream Mormon church will be very active in dealing with this and whatever anyone thinks of them, they are very good at creating family structures. Not a life I would choose, but not completely bleak either.
 

john.roberts85

Well-Known Member
Yeah, but I had forgotten about the extreme youth of the mothers. It boggles the mind what humans can do. It's very sad. My guess, though, is that the mainstream Mormon church will be very active in dealing with this and whatever anyone thinks of them, they are very good at creating family structures. Not a life I would choose, but not completely bleak either.
Let's hope.
 

medicineman

New Member
Yeah, Med is all over the map; not as ideologically rigorous as you VI:mrgreen:
Look shnkrmn, Don't ever accuse me of being for pedaphilia. I'm just sugesting that the children would have been better off if they came and took the men instead of disrupting 400+ kids.. Where did they house 400+ kids anyway, in a school gym. Hell yeah get those men away from those kids, but dont Use a shotgun to kill a fly, much more damage has been done to those kids by this then would have been done by removing the men. If they could get legal permission to take 400+ kids, it seems to me they could have got legal permission to remove 25-50 men
 

ViRedd

New Member
Look shnkrmn, Don't ever accuse me of being for pedaphilia. I'm just sugesting that the children would have been better off if they came and took the men instead of disrupting 400+ kids.. Where did they house 400+ kids anyway, in a school gym. Hell yeah get those men away from those kids, but dont Use a shotgun to kill a fly, much more damage has been done to those kids by this then would have been done by removing the men. If they could get legal permission to take 400+ kids, it seems to me they could have got legal permission to remove 25-50 men
Hey, you're right, Med. Now then Janet Reno had the right idea in how to
"protect the children" in situations like this: Just pump CS gas into the compound then set the children on fire.


Why isn't Janet Reno in prison ... and her boss too?

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Hey, you're right, Med. Now then Janet Reno had the right idea in how to
"protect the children" in situations like this: Just pump CS gas into the compound then set the children on fire.

Why isn't Janet Reno in prison ... and her boss too?

Vi
Executive priveledge, I'm sure you've heard of that before,~LOL~.
 

medicineman

New Member
BTW, on the Condi Rice thingy, she has been the worst advisor we've ever had in office. I'll give her intelligence, but she hasn't used any since being in the Bush regime. she should have those Arab countries eating out of her hand, but instead they are all inflamed. She refuses to talk with the "enemies" and they just get more pissed off at US. Vice president to McCain. I'd say that ought to galvenize the left, we'd have the largest turnout ever to vote against those two.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Med ...

Did you watch Bill Maher last night? I thought he was most disrespectful. Sickening actually. I usually find some humor coming from the man, but last night was nothing but negativity. He must not be getting any lately.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Med ...

Did you watch Bill Maher last night? I thought he was most disrespectful. Sickening actually. I usually find some humor coming from the man, but last night was nothing but negativity. He must not be getting any lately.

Vi
Not really, he's just getting pissed off at the stupidity of the American public. I mean, anyone who voted for bush the first time, well, I can't fault them as they were just ignorant, But the second time, they were fucking idiots. It ceases to be funny when they are opposite of your beliefs now, right Redd. I mean I try and barb you in an offhanded way and you get all upset. Hey, I know you'll not admit it, but really now, you voted for the asshole twice, didn't you? Yeah those prescious tax cuts, I think I'll vote Bush, HAHAHEHEHOHO~LOL~. You are part of the problem, not the solution.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Wrong-O as usual. As I've stated here a hundred times ... the only Republican I have voted for over the past twenty years have been Tom McClintock and Bruce Herschensohn

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Wrong-O as usual. As I've stated here a hundred times ... the only Republican I have voted for over the past twenty years have been Tom McClintock and Bruce Herschensohn

Vi
Tell me oh Vihole, you aren't for his huge tax cuts for rich assholes? yeah, you love and defend the dickhead at every turn, didn't vote for him, yeah right.
 

ViRedd

New Member
1. I support Bush's tax cuts, as I would support a tax cut from a Democrat president as well. Ha ... fat chance of that ever happening.

2. I do not support Bush's lack of a veto pen.

And by the way ... the tax cuts were not only for the so called rich. The "poor" got their tax cuts too ... in direct proportion to what they paid in taxes.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
1. I support Bush's tax cuts, as I would support a tax cut from a Democrat president as well. Ha ... fat chance of that ever happening.

2. I do not support Bush's lack of a veto pen.

And by the way ... the tax cuts were not only for the so called rich. The "poor" got their tax cuts too ... in direct proportion to what they paid in taxes.

Vi
You are so mis-informed mr. ViHole. You should get out more, take a tour of the ghetto, take a vacation to rural West Virginia, look around, take off those rose collored glasses, oh that's right, the poor deserve to be poor, and the rich have worked their asses off to be where they are. You are so deluded Mr. ViHole, wake the fuck up!
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
.....take a tour of the ghetto, take a vacation to rural West Virginia, look around, take off those rose colored glasses, oh that's right, the poor deserve to be poor, and the rich have worked their asses off to be where they are.
the question isn't whether the poor deserve to be poor, but whether the rich deserve to be forced to subsidize failure and the abuses of the few. every time we restrict the freedoms of a few, everyone's rights are degraded. you are disgusted by the excesses of those who have more than you just as your excesses disgust those with less than you.

who has the right to determine how much is enough? stalin tried it, mao tried it, castro and his buddy che tried it. everyone who has ever tried it has failed or been forced to use violent means to enforce their ideas. you deride me for my support of the conservative element that believes in a free market, but you would have us deteriorate into a police state to enforce the laudable ideals of economic equality. instead of trying to even the playing field of opportunity, you and your idols are merely trying to evenly divide the proceeds of that opportunity.
 

medicineman

New Member
you deride me for my support of the conservative element that believes in a free market, but you would have us deteriorate into a police state to enforce the laudable ideals of economic equality. instead of trying to even the playing field of opportunity, you and your idols are merely trying to evenly divide the proceeds of that opportunity.

Never ever postulated a police state. This is exactly what I call you on every time. You put some misaligned notion about me out as fact. Heres the line that really has me flummoxed. "Instead of trying to even the playing field of opportunities" Hey, that is exactly what I am for. If you can't get that out of my posts then you had better take a reading comprehension class. Yes, let us even the playing field of opportunities. Now are you fucking happy, BTW take your money and stick it as far up your tight ass as possible. I don't need any of your hypocritical "Charity".
 

medicineman

New Member
I truly believe that Med has a severe mental problem.

Vi
I don't give a fuck about what you believe. Remember it's just what "you" believe. It has no influence on me at all. I could say a few things I believe about you, but will refrain at this time. Don't want to spoil anyones day, but believe me they are pretty corrosive. My mental problem is dealing with your corupted ass.
 
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