ABR-1™ ultra high performance photon emitter system

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Yow

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Hello all, have seen much dicussion on the merits and shortcomings of LED lighting here.

I have one of these. It rocks. I will be posting pics soon.

Good luck and growing to all.

Yow

Check it out at http://abrpa.com
 

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Treeth

Treeth

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not enough power

overpriced for using luxeon rebels

will not flower 12x12 feet. will flower maybe 4 square feet.
 
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Yow

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Treeth said:
not enough power

overpriced for using luxeon rebels

will not flower 12x12 feet. will flower maybe 4 square feet.
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Hi Treeth, FYI:

AC input only 2.5 amps, but it pumps out 13.5 amps to the panel. Small power bill with real, measurable high output power. 12x12 :bigjoint:

Best,

Yow
 
Treeth

Treeth

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Okay, thanks for the 12v amperage...

Its a nice piece of kit though, I work with rebels as well. 13 amps is a significant amount of power.

Your design is very similar to my own.

I respect what you're doing. Many people have assembled these elements together, and failed to take them mainstream.

What is your background Yow,
and your collective,

Why The led fixture?

What is the outlook for ABR?
 
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Yow

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We supercharge the driver circuits, tune with a spectrophotometer and add additional tweaks including a real power supply. The blue LED's are the high end ones. In the end it's a custom built total solution.

No need to get your nose out of joint Man!

Peace
 
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sherriberry

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seems very overpriced. However, if you were to have some testers, not you testing it, but an unbiased party testing it, side by side in the same room with a MH 1000 watt bulb (or whatver it is you say this is comparable to, and see if the plants grow faster on one side of the room than the other...

then you might start selling them based on power savings alone.

If you want an unbiased tester, count me in :)
 
IAm5toned

IAm5toned

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a watt is a watt regardless of input voltages.
what im interested in is the efficiency of this unit.
what is your watt per lumen conversion?
and how many of those lumens are a usable spectrum?
what type of heat sinks are you using?
 
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Yow

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smppro said:
for flowering or vegging?
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Both. When the light source is correct, as it is in this case, no wavelength variations are needed. Quite the opposite.

The shortened photo period triggers the bloom process and with strong blue and red the flowering and density is much more pronounced as it gest the proper amount of which in plant biology clearly states in the 'action-absorption' spectrum.

See charts for a clear explaination:
http://abrpa.com/science.html

In short, you need the violet, blue and red for all stages of Chlorophyll production.
 
Treeth

Treeth

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Yeah those phillips lumileds royal blues are something else.

I have yet to have the privilege of over-driving one of the higher binned examples, but I can imagine its brilliance compared to my low binned examples.

Why is it that they are so expensive/?
 
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Yow

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IAm5toned said:
a watt is a watt regardless of input voltages.
what im interested in is the efficiency of this unit.
what is your watt per lumen conversion?
and how many of those lumens are a usable spectrum?
what type of heat sinks are you using?
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Watts per lumens is a useable calculation for only the white light spectrum and candlepower, basically n/a as the efficiency lies in the high power useable spectrum which is violet, blue and red.

The LED's, microprocessors and all electronic components on the panel are FR4 copper clad mounted to the highest standard, the fans are programmed to run when only when neccessary. The entire board is it's own heat sink this way.

The higher photosynthetic performance is proven by measurements taken using a spectrophotometer.


more info - http//:abrpa.com
 

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Yow

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Treeth said:
Yeah those phillips lumileds royal blues are something else.

I have yet to have the privilege of over-driving one of the higher binned examples, but I can imagine its brilliance compared to my low binned examples.

Why is it that they are so expensive/?
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The Royal Blues are the game changer for application designers and users. A true breakthrough, Treeth.

The cost of the components, workmanship, quality and guaranteed performance are not evident upfront.

Considering the long term tost cost versa performance is very inexpensive, all factors considered.

The full warranty is going to be extended to 5 years for even greater customer value.
 
Treeth

Treeth

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I agree on that warranty, but doesn't that mean shipping around lots and lots of fixtures, with dead Fans and power supply's in addition to the occasional burned out led failures?
 
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Yow

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Treeth said:
I agree on that warranty, but doesn't that mean shipping around lots and lots of fixtures, with dead Fans and power supply's in addition to the occasional burned out led failures?
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All are high end components and are rated at the highest catagory for reliabilty.

Are the microprocessors, fans and LED's constantly failing in your TV and PC?

High MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure)
ratings is why NOT. Make sense yet?

What product are you trying to draw a comparision to?

name______________________
model______________________
specs______________________
MTBF_______________________

Hard to follow what you're rambling about?

:dunce:
 
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mihjaro

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I'm confused by the whole 150W equivalent to 1.5kW HID. Why don't any of the LED makers give lumen figures? Or, does this equivalency thing mean that this board outputs 200,000 lumens as 1.5kW HPS would output.
 
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Yow

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mihjaro said:
I'm confused by the whole 150W equivalent to 1.5kW HID. Why don't any of the LED makers give lumen figures? Or, does this equivalency thing mean that this board outputs 200,000 lumens as 1.5kW HPS would output.
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Mihjaro,

The short answer is the colors (wavelengths) that plants use for chlorophyll production are violet, blue and red.

This models puts out far more measurable photons(light units) in those colors by between 2.5 - 3.7 times as compared with HID-HPS at 1.5KW.

HID was originally designed for street lighting. Lumens is really 'candlepower' and that is a white light measurement that does not apply to photosynthesis.

Most of the HID output is white and uses a lot of power aiming at the wrong target.

The real issue is LED light vendors do not measure and prove the V, B and R outputs using a spectrophotometer.

Hope that helps explain it.
 
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sherriberry

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[i think a side by side comparrison with a curtain sheet of panda wrap between a 1000 watt mh, and how ever many of these nifty lights you sell it takes to suck 1000 watts of equal power from the wall, and lets see which plants grow faster.
 
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