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acid question

sup, anyways I have been wondering, how much does one tab effect your trip? ive never done acid, but i really wanna see how it is, since its not addicting lol. when you take acid, do you usually like start spazzing out like seizures or is it chill? like can you just be seated and take acid and be calm, and does your current mood effect the trip? thanks guys :)
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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you should just stay away from LSD and go with the mushrooms if you want to trip. LSD is man made which means man determines what goes into the batch and its not always a good thing to rely on someone to mix the chemicals properly.
 

Skuxx

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what is that link? I'm afraid to click that thing looks ugly.

oh, and the op is most likely a troll post. I fucking hope.
 

dwcannan

Active Member
it can be really over powering your first time bro i just did it my first time like a week ago and it was really strong deffinatly not like shrooms its way more of a mind fuck and way more of a different mind trip i would call it and yes your mood can and probably will effect your trip but hey if you wanna try one hit do it you will probably trip a lil not like a full blown trip two hits would give you try one and then if you can handle it take another if you think you will be ok i just said fuck it and poped the two and i was good
 

VLRD.Kush

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you should just stay away from LSD and go with the mushrooms if you want to trip. LSD is man made which means man determines what goes into the batch and its not always a good thing to rely on someone to mix the chemicals properly.
This is true and not true. LSD is such a powerful and wonderful experience. Find a good/ legit source and do it. Don't scare this man away from it.

MJ is natural, yet man controls what goes into it and what doesn't. I'm sure you've smoked some buds that were far more harmful than LSD
 

MrEDuck

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you should just stay away from LSD and go with the mushrooms if you want to trip. LSD is man made which means man determines what goes into the batch and its not always a good thing to rely on someone to mix the chemicals properly.
Because no one has ever freaked out on mushrooms. Man made does not mean toxic or dangerous, nor does natural mean safe. Only a fool or an ignoramus would believe that.
 

testtime

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what is that link? I'm afraid to click that thing looks ugly.
Wimp. You probably use windows too, feeling that faint threat of dread on every click.
Is this the moment your system gets trashed?
How about now?
Now?

hehe.

It's just a shortened "Let me google that for you".
Click it.
The goal is whenever anyone asks a common question to show them how to use google.
Sometime I add the keywords they were missing, like "set and setting".
It is a serious subject, not to be taken lightly, and I'd type a LONG time to explain it.
Somebody already did, many times. Yay google.
 

testtime

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Because no one has ever freaked out on mushrooms. Man made does not mean toxic or dangerous, nor does natural mean safe. Only a fool or an ignoramus would believe that.
While he's wrong, he playing some good odds. When dealing with straight physical danger brought on by the chemical, both LSD and psilocybin mushrooms are perfectly harmless. But toss in RCs masquerading as LSD, and a nubie who has no idea how to test (most of them), VS the odds of someone either growing or peddling a bad batch of mushrooms, and I'd play the mushrooms any day of the week over the "street" LSD.

So, I back the end result of his poor logic, ie: stick with shrooms over ANY unknown (at eh Mr eDuck level, not the hey, buddy, wanna have a good time level) chemical.

I read a lot. And papers LOVE druggie stories. And I delve, reading at least dozens of articles for a single incident. I have NEVER seen a mushroom death that was not associated with a stupid behavior, like wandering into traffic. And it is rare. Mushrooms are sedating, LSD is not. I've never seen a real LSD death other than stupid accidents as well, but they seem to happen more often (no, no way of meaning anything due to impossibility of stats on who's doing what out of the population), and I've seen lots attributed to LSD that were obviously an RC of some sort.

So, as a general rule for me, and anyone who does not have a background in chemistry (99% of the people out there): Stay the fuck away from any chemical that is packaged in any dose small enough to masquerade as LSD, since ALL the alternatives that have a higher probability of being there (cheaper, easier to get, etc) can kill you just based on fucked up dosage.
 

Kervork

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The guy that was making 80+% of the worlds LSD is now in jail, has been for awhile. As wonderful as it is, your odds of getting any good stuff is not good.

We miss you Captain Picard.
 

dwcannan

Active Member
i seriously doubt one guy was makin 80% of the worlds lsd i mean maybe but im sure theres plenty of other chemists out there makin some bangin lsd especially world wide that nigga would have to have one massive ass lab to make 80% but shit i could be wrong look at the cartels they are huge but they have more than one lab
 

VLRD.Kush

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The guy that was making 80+% of the worlds LSD is now in jail, has been for awhile. As wonderful as it is, your odds of getting any good stuff is not good.

We miss you Captain Picard.
Really don't want to get into the Pickard thing again...
 

dwcannan

Active Member
well someones got to be makin some bangin lucy because the stuff ive been gettin by the strip if for sure some legit stuff 15 hour trips taste nice and sweet and takes about an hour maybe a little less to kick in and just two hits
 

MrEDuck

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15 hours is kinda long for LSD unless you're taking really large quantities.
Pickard was not making 80% of the worlds LSD. Cops love to make busts sound bigger than they are. LSD labs are rarely busted. So obviously when they hit a big one it had to be THE BIG ONE. There's lots of information that shows it isn't like that.

And it's very easy to dry some mushrooms bought from the store and spray some RC on them. Blotter paper isn't the only absorbent substance on earth you know.
 

dwcannan

Active Member
well i had to cut the strip myself they were probably a little to big lol so that could explaine why and yeah i agree cops do that they have to make it look good on their part.
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
I have not seen real LSD -25 since Jerry Garcia passed on and my connections on the trails .. None the less , here is a little something from the DrugLibrary.org

LSD Manufacture


Illegal LSD Production




LSD has been manufactured illegally since the 1960’s. A limited number of chemists, probably less than a dozen, are believed to be manufacturing nearly all of the LSD available in the United States. Some of these manufacturers probably have been operating since the 1960’s.


LSD manufacturers and traffickers can be separated into two groups. The first, located in northern California, is composed of chemists (commonly referred to as “cooks”) and traffickers who work together in close association; typically, they are major producers capable of distributing LSD nationwide. The second group is made up of independent producers who, operating on a comparatively limited scale, can be found throughout the country. As a group, independent producers pose much less of a threat than the northern California group inasmuch as their production is intended for local consumption only.


Drug law enforcement officials have surmised that LSD chemists and top echelon traffickers form an insider’s fraternity of sorts. They successfully have remained at large because there are so few of them. Their exclusivity is not surprising given that LSD synthesis is a difficult process to master. Although cooks need not be formally trained chemists, they must adhere to precise and complex production procedures. In instances where the cook is not a chemist, the production recipe most likely was passed on by personal instruction from a formally trained chemist. Further supporting the premise that most LSD manufacture is the work of a small fraternity of chemists, virtually all the LSD seized during the 1980’s was of consistently high purity and sold in relatively uniform dosages of 20 to 80 micrograms.


LSD commonly is produced from lysergic acid, which is made from ergotamine tartrate, a substance derived from an ergot fungus on rye, or from lysergic acid amide, a chemical found in morning glory seeds. Although theoretically possible, manufacture of LSD from morning glory seeds is not economically feasible and these seeds never have been found to be a successful starting material for LSD production. Lysergic acid and lysergic acid amide are both classified in Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act. Ergotamine tartrate is regulated under the Chemical Diversion and Trafficking Act.


Ergotamine tartrate is not readily available in the United States, and its purchase by other than established pharmaceutical firms is suspect. Therefore, ergotamine tartrate used in clandestine LSD laboratories is believed to be acquired from sources located abroad, most likely Europe, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Africa.11 The difficulty in acquiring ergotamine tartrate may limit the number of independent LSD manufacturers. By contrast, illicit manufacture of methamphetamine and phencyclidine is comparatively more prevelant in the United States because, in part, precursor chemicals can be procured easily.


Only a small amount of ergotamine tartrate is required to produce LSD in large batches. For example, 25 kilograms of ergotamine tartrate can produce 5 or 6 kilograms of pure LSD crystal that, under ideal circumstances, could be processed into 100 million dosage units, more than enough to meet what is believed to be the entire annual U.S. demand for the hallucinogen. LSD manufacturers need only import a small quantity of the substance and, thus, enjoy the advantages of ease of concealment and transport not available to traffickers of other illegal drugs, primarily marijuana and cocaine.


Cooking LSD is time consuming; it takes from 2 to 3 days to produce 1 to 4 ounces of crystal. Consequently, it is believed that LSD usually is not produced in large quantities, but rather in a series of small batches. Production of LSD in small batches also minimizes the loss of precursor chemicals should they become contaminated during the synthesis process.


LSD crystal produced clandestinely can be as much as 95- to 100-percent pure. At this purity—and assuming optimum conditions during dilution and application to paper—1 gram of crystal could produce 20,000 dosage units of LSD. However, analysis of LSD crystal seized in California over the past 3 years revealed an average purity of only 62 percent. Moreover, LSD degrades quickly when exposed to heat, light, and air and is most susceptible to degradation during the application process and once it is in paper form. As a result, under less than optimal, real-life conditions, actual yields are significantly below the theoretically possible yield: 1 gram of LSD crystal genarally yields 10,000 dosage units of LSD, or approximately 10 million dosage units per kilogram.


Over the past 30 years, the traditional dilution factor for manufacturing LSD has been 10,000 doses per 1 gram of crystal. Therefore, dosage units yielded from high-purity (95- to 100-percent pure) LSD crystal would contain 100 micrograms. However, dosages currently seen contain closer to 50 micrograms. This discrepancy stems in part from production impurities: during the sythesis process, manufacturers generally fail to perform a final “clean-up” step to remove by-products, thereby lowering the crystal’s purity. Further, though average purity of tested LSD crystal samples is, as noted, 62 percent, the average potency of doses analyzed is approximately 50 micrograms rather than 62 micrograms, as would be expected. The diminished potency can be attributed to distributors who, when applying the crystal to paper, often “cheat” by diluting 1 gram of crystal to produce up to 15,000 or more dosage units.


Pure, high-potency LSD is a clear or white, odorless crystalline material that is soluble in water. It is mixed with binding agents, such as spray-dried skim milk, for producing tablets or is dissolved and diluted in a solvent for application onto paper or other materials. Variations in the manufacturing process or the presence of precursors or by-products can cause LSD to range in color from clear or white, in its purest form, to tan or even black, indicating poor quality or degradation. To mask product difficiencies, distributors often apply LSD to off-white, tan, or yellow paper to disguise discoloration.


At the highest levels of the traffic, where LSD crystal is purchased in gram or multigram quantities from wholesale sources of supply, it rarely is diluted with adulterants, a common practice with cocaine, heroin, and other illicit drugs. However, to prepare the crystal for production in retail dosage units, it must be diluted with binding agents or dissolved and diluted in liquids. The dilution of LSD crystal typically follows a standard, predetermined recipe to ensure uniformity of the final product. Excessive dilution yields less potent dosage units that soon become unmarketable.


LSD crystal usually is converted into tablet form (“microdots” that are 3/32 inch or smaller in diameter), thin squares of gelatin (“window panes”), or applied to sheets of prepared paper (blotter paper—initially used as a medium—has been replaced by a variety of paper types). LSD most frequently is encountered in paper form, still commonly referred to as blotter paper or blotter acid. It consists of sheets of paper soaked in or otherwise impregnated with LSD. Often these sheets are covered with colorful designs or artwork and are usually perforated into one-quarter inch square, individual dosage units.
 

testtime

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And it's very easy to dry some mushrooms bought from the store and spray some RC on them. Blotter paper isn't the only absorbent substance on earth you know.
Have you ever heard of someone buying these shrooms on the street or is this theoretical?
And were they sold as psilo shrooms or something else?
If we are talking bought in a package in a gas station, then no, out of the picture since they are known not to be real shrooms at that point, the guy might as well be snorting bath salts.

As I stated, it's a matter of how often and how easy it is for a lethal dosage to hit someone that counts, at least to me. Please point me in a direction if I missed something.
 

high|hgih

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Lol.. ignoramus..

Anyways, one hit will make thinks sparkly, and depending on how much shit is on or in this acid, one could make you trip decently hard. Have fun :D
 
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