Ag first grow. help is appreciated

jenkem420

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I'm a first time grower and was hoping someone could help me through the process with tips and pointers. So basically i have closet that is 3Lx3Wx8Hish feet tall. Im using an aero garden space savor six. I recently germinated a white widow seed i got online(hopefully female). i have my ph right around or a little under 6.0. I covered up 5 of the six pods with duct tape to keep out the light. im using the other pod to grow my 1 plant. I took the seed out of the pods they give u and put my germaneted seed(root down), put it in the ag and put the dome over it. my lighting for the seedling stage im just gonna stick with the grow deluxe bulb it comes with. The time cycle im using is 21 on 3 off. Once i reach the veg stage im planing on using my 400w mh light. I just bought a 400w digital mh/hps ballast and mogul base to get the bulbs i have runnin. once i get to flowering im going to switch to 400w hps bulb. today was the seeds first day in the ag after a 3 or 4 day germinating stage. i put a starter nute tab in that the package came with then im not going to use any more till veg stage. Ill keep you posted with pictures and any help or tips would be much appreciated.
 

jenkem420

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hell yea fox. good to see you over here. its day 2 nothing really changed as i expected. quick question though. I read somewhere that when the roots start to come through i should turn off my air pump to prevent root rot. is that true? ill add some pics too so you guys can see the setup.
 

FoxCompany426

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When the roots are well established in your res, then you turn off you water pump, not the air pump. If your AG doesn't have a water pump, then you don't have to worry about it.
 

jenkem420

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start of day 4, realized my camera is out of battery and my charger is back home. I did take a pic with my phone not that good of quality but u can still see the plant.(took the dome off to take the picture, but its getting close to keeping it off) and fox, how do i turn of the water filter, im pretty sure there is one on the ag i have. and do i keep it off the rest of the time the plants growing or do i turn it back on.
 

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rotwiler

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I am on my second aerogarden grow. I have the 6 pod one with dual lights and a airstone in the center. I learned alot from messing up my first grow. I have a few pointers for you.

1)I wouldn't use the AG nutes, get some hydro nutes like, fox farm, general hydroponics etc.

2)Only use water for the first few days, if you added that AG nute for starters I would empty the AG and put fresh water in. when you see them get past the clear covers on the AG, remove the covers and let them grow for 1 to 2 days then you can add nutes at 1/3 strength.

3)Get a airpump, is a must in the AG, root rot is real easy to get. I have a dual pump with 2 long airstones. I also run cannazyme in mine and 1/4 cup hydrogen peroixide 3% you can get from any store. I had root rot on 1 and killed my plant and you don't want all that crud in there with only a 1 gallon res.

4)Put the lights as close to the plants as you can get, I even have mine at a few weeks old almost touching the lights. It is good to add a couple CFLS to the sides too. I add 3 23 watt 6500k cfls in reflectors and makes the plants grow alot better and get bushy.

5)Fill your AG so that the water is touching the bottom of the AG pod, when the plant starts getting long roots you can back off a little and go just below the pod. I tend to keep mine just touching the pod, when they start growing I have had to add a 1/4 to 1/2 gallon a day in the AG.

6)I wouldn't mist your plants either, I did that and my fan leaves were the size of my hand.

7)Get a small fan, have it blow at the plants all the time, it will make them get a strong stalk and get good fresh air.

8)This is a big one, my stalk became larger than my AG pod, the plastic was all entangled in the roots and the roots were being strangled by the plastic on the pod. I had to cut my roots out and was hard and stunned the plants. If your doing hid later, I would cut out some out the plastic side pieces on the pods and later when the plant gets larger you are going to want to move it to a 3 to 5 gallon bucket. The roots get crazy.

Good Luck! My first grow is about 9 weeks total, going on 5 weeks in 12/12 from bag seed.

Here is some pics of mine in the AG and the roots a few days after moving it under a hid.
 

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"SICC"

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Lookin good man, he basically threw it all on the table in that post haha, As long as you treat her good, she will become a female, why one one plant tho, you could pull of two in there, better your chances of a female
 

jenkem420

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thanks guys. glad to see you over here sicc.
1)im gonna go ahead and order some nutes. it prob wont get here for a week but any suggestions.
2)about to empty the water. did the starter nutes make a big difference?
3)i got 2 air stones already. what is cannazyme/how much do i use and what does that and the peroxide do?
4)im just gonna stick with the ag light for now until i get to veg and flowering, then im using 400w hps/mh
5)did
6)wont
7)i have a dual maybe 6 inch fan

and sicc growing in an appartment at school and idk how stinky two female plants would get
 

FoxCompany426

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thanks guys. glad to see you over here sicc.
1)im gonna go ahead and order some nutes. it prob wont get here for a week but any suggestions.
2)about to empty the water. did the starter nutes make a big difference?
3)i got 2 air stones already. what is cannazyme/how much do i use and what does that and the peroxide do?
4)im just gonna stick with the ag light for now until i get to veg and flowering, then im using 400w hps/mh
5)did
6)wont
7)i have a dual maybe 6 inch fan

and sicc growing in an appartment at school and idk how stinky two female plants would get
1)General Hydroponics is good.

2)Not really, when you get your nutes you will need to follow the feeding schedule. That will tell you exactly how much to use and when.

3)Cannazyme and H202 is not required. As long as you keep track of your res, you will have no problems. If you insist on getting something like that, check out General Hydroponics Hygrozyme. It is much cheaper and does more.

The strength of odor depends on which strain. It may be light or it may be extremely strong. You will just have to wait and see.
 

jenkem420

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which ones should i get? saw a bunch of a couple of different nutes. one of them was both liquids and the other was a liquid and a dry.
 

rotwiler

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I use general hydroponics grow, micro, bloom. The AG nutes left a white film in my res, so I did away with them. Where I live cannazyme is $10 and Hygrozyme is $20, so I first used canna. But the other day I went to another shop and they didn't carry it, so I bought the Hygrozyme. Also when I did the transplant to buckets I had this big root cluster I couldn't pull apart and the roots started browning, so I really think the canna and hydrogen p helped, a few days after adding a normal dose the roots looked like what you seen in that pic I posted. You don't have to use any, but I had issues twice and aftet that I am a little paranoid, all falls now on 1 plant and a new female I just put into 12/12. I used the label amount and put about a 1/4 cup hydrogen peroxide in the AG, is cheap at 50 cents to a $1 a bottle.

You want the liquid nutes for hydro. Theres a guy out there named Lucas that came up with a formula for the general hydroponics nutes and he doesn't use the grow, just 5ml micro and 10ml bloom in veg and 8ml micro and 16ml when in bloom per gallon. I have mine now on the 8-16. He in short said no grow is needed since there is enough nitrogen in the micro. After a week or so, use 1/3 of the amount and built up from there.

My plant is very and I mean VERY stinky. Can smell it through my entire house, is main reason I had to use a tent to grow and add a airscrubber. I was going to do a full AG grow, but some don't smell as much. I tried a ar purifier in mine with a ionic breeze and didn't help much.

Any fan will work, I have a small vortex style on I picked up for $7.
 

jenkem420

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not to sure what u mean by use 1/3 the ammount and built up from there. and as far as smell goes i have an air purifier, a fan and an air feshner that blows every so often. as stinky as i want this bud to me i need to keep the smell down so it doesnt reak outside. im using white widdow seeds from gypsy nirvana. anyways i woke and boke at abbout 730 and no fucking way im goin to classes. I might be gettin some blue capped boomers soon too so im pumped about that
 

rotwiler

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not to sure what u mean by use 1/3 the ammount and built up from there. and as far as smell goes i have an air purifier, a fan and an air feshner that blows every so often. as stinky as i want this bud to me i need to keep the smell down so it doesnt reak outside. im using white widdow seeds from gypsy nirvana. anyways i woke and boke at abbout 730 and no fucking way im goin to classes. I might be gettin some blue capped boomers soon too so im pumped about that
1/3 the normal amount of nutrients. So if for instance your using the directions with general hydroponics nutes, normally it would be in veg, 15ml grow/10ml micro/5ml bloom per gallon, you would do 5ml grow/around 3ml micro and around 2ml bloom, then the following week when you change the water, add slightly more of each, by the 3rd week I was using full strength. Some say to use less in hydro since nutes can build up, but I haven't had any issues with nutes except when I used the AG nutes and had some nute burn and white crud in the AG.

I had a air purifier full size one with the uv light to kill germs and puts out neg ions, with a hepa filter. I also had a ionic breeze style and I still have them in there now with the air scrubber. I don't need them in there, but figured the hepa purifier with the uv light is good, will kill off any bacteria, so can't hurt.
 

"SICC"

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1/4 of nutrient strength, so say if you take the small AG nute tab, you break that in half. Now with the half, if you break it in 2, that will be 1/4 if that makes sense, you start at that strength and work your way up with each week by up the nutrients givin to the plants
 

stinkbudd1

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say they do look good bro and keep it going.. If you dont mind i have a couple of rookie questions to ask im a first time grower and i have a cool set up in my closet space 3x3x6 2m mylar all around 400w mh sylvania 6" 245cfm exaust fan at the top 2x 3" passive intakes at the bottom same side an 8" oscilating fan for air circulation... now my resin brothers the issue all this soil talk has me pulling my hair out could someone give me the simplest soil mixure out there or should i just go organic? and lastly about hps and mh 400w i only have the mh to run from start to finish is this a problem? please help
 
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