Air salinity / THC production

shmoop

shmoop

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So I've read that the salinity of the air near the ocean forces plants to produce more THC for protection.

I was just wondering if it would be worth getting a saline humidifier for my grow room?

Anyone knowledgeable on this subject? I would prefer that people don't post responses like: "Durrrr, salt water is bad for plants, duuurrrrr."

Thanks! +rep for responses that don't piss me off
 
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gagekko

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Not to piss you off, but aren't you already on the west coast?

Ocean water contains sea salt, and sea salt has a good source of magnesium.... Maybe the MG and other minerals in the ocean water are more prominent in the air there?
 
shmoop

shmoop

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gagekko said:
Not to piss you off, but aren't you already on the west coast?

Ocean water contains sea salt, and sea salt has a good source of magnesium.... Maybe the MG and other minerals in the ocean water are more prominent in the air there?
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I live in the central valley, about 100 miles from the ocean... I don't think the salinity here is as high.
 
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gagekko

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shmoop said:
I live in the central valley, about 100 miles from the ocean... I don't think the salinity here is as high.
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Haha... okay... but perhaps the THC is produced as a defense mechanism, like for UV light... Maybe it is secreted to prevent plant from foliar intaking of various minerals in the air... At least that's my guess... Anyone else?
 
bamacheese

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I'm curious as to who you obtained this information from...Can you post a source?

Scientifically speaking, it makes very little sense to think that increased air salinity would have any major effect on a plant's metabolic function, especially a function regarding primary and secondary resin production. In general, resin production may increase if a plant is exposed to elements it isn't exactly appreciative of, as a defense mechanism. This process, however, would counter intuitively decrease bud mass, not to mention, secondary resin production will decrease.

I'm not sure if you know what I mean by primary and secondary resins....If you get the chance, look into a book called "Plant Resins" (The only one out there, can't think of the author at the moment).

It goes into great detail regarding resin production, and why plants go about doing what they do.

Basically, your primary resins mostly consist of terpenes, or scent molecules that serve multiple purposes for the plant (defense, pollen attraction, anti-fungal, etc.).

Your secondary resins consist of extremely complex molecules that are often composed of chains of simple resins, and the biological function of these secondary resins is relatively unknown. As far as scientists know, the plants just produce them to produce them. They serve no purpose regarding the persistence of the plant's genetics.

THC, CBD, CBC, and THCV all fall under the category of secondary resins. They are produced in highest amounts when the plant is unstressed, and has no other processes it needs to carry out.

So while stressing a plant may increase resin production, it isn't particularly the resin you may be looking for. Hope this helps you out mate, and any questions or responses are welcome!!
 
shmoop

shmoop

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bamacheese said:
I'm curious as to who you obtained this information from...Can you post a source?

Scientifically speaking, it makes very little sense to think that increased air salinity would have any major effect on a plant's metabolic function, especially a function regarding primary and secondary resin production. In general, resin production may increase if a plant is exposed to elements it isn't exactly appreciative of, as a defense mechanism. This process, however, would counter intuitively decrease bud mass, not to mention, secondary resin production will decrease.

I'm not sure if you know what I mean by primary and secondary resins....If you get the chance, look into a book called "Plant Resins" (The only one out there, can't think of the author at the moment).

It goes into great detail regarding resin production, and why plants go about doing what they do.

Basically, your primary resins mostly consist of terpenes, or scent molecules that serve multiple purposes for the plant (defense, pollen attraction, anti-fungal, etc.).

Your secondary resins consist of extremely complex molecules that are often composed of chains of simple resins, and the biological function of these secondary resins is relatively unknown. As far as scientists know, the plants just produce them to produce them. They serve no purpose regarding the persistence of the plant's genetics.

THC, CBD, CBC, and THCV all fall under the category of secondary resins. They are produced in highest amounts when the plant is unstressed, and has no other processes it needs to carry out.

So while stressing a plant may increase resin production, it isn't particularly the resin you may be looking for. Hope this helps you out mate, and any questions or responses are welcome!!
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Well it all started when I was looking up the meaning of OG in cannabis strains (becuase I knew it wasnt Orinigal Gangster) like OG kush abusive OG, so on and so fourth... I never really found what I would call substantial evidence for this theory: but the majority of what I read from many different sources stated; OG stands for Ocean Grown, meaning the strain was produced near the ocean, and that the salinity in the air stresses the plants into producing more THC and denser buds.

So I thought I would post it on here and see if I can get some good answers
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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There is no salt in the air. Period. In direct spray from breakers or wind across the surface there is. But salt is not in the air anywhere otherwise.
 
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gagekko

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Plant Resins: Chemistry, Evolution, Ecology, and Ethnobotany... Haha, found in PDF - downloading now :)
 
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gagekko

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hotrodharley said:
There is no salt in the air. Period. In direct spray from breakers or wind across the surface there is. But salt is not in the air anywhere otherwise.
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There is something in the air. People who live inland usually can smell the ocean - whatever that scent is.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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shmoop said:
So I've read that the salinity of the air near the ocean forces plants to produce more THC, and denser buds, for protection.

I was just wondering if it would be worth getting a saline humidifier for my grow room?

Anyone knowledgeable on this subject? I would prefer that people don't post responses like: "Durrrr, salt water is bad for plants, duuurrrrr."

Thanks! +rep for responses that don't piss me off
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Don't waste your money.
 
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gagekko

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I'm not on the coast but is there any real proof that "Ocean Grown", or "OG" really means anything other than it's a California/west coast strain? Also, it seems there is a disagreement as to what OG really means... "ocean grown", "original genetics", but we can rule out the gangster reference, lol.
 
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