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hopeyougotadutch

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Hello RIU, here to ask and learn about ORGANICS. Basically, I want to use soil w/ amendments to feed through entire veg (roughly 3-4 weeks I want to veg), and switch to teas for feedings through flower. I have a nursery within 20-25 minutes from where I live and would like to get any and all materials there if not homedepot/lowes. They have a nice organic soil of their own containing a few goodies like peat moss and limestone, perlite, aged pine bark. My questions are mainly directed at which amendments would be best for veg? for flower? Explanation of how to brew teas in small batches and which types would be best for each stage/deficiency would be excellent. If you feel this was a question that was asked too much, don't say it, just post a link to where I can find it. Any and all help would be much appreciated, I have 3-4 weeks before I can get started and I want to learn as much as possible about organics in that time frame. Thank you for your help in advance.
 

dirrtyd

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Okay I will throw you a bone all your questions can be answered by articles in the organic forum on this site. Good Luck Dirrtyd
 

hopeyougotadutch

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That's pretty much just saying what I said not to. I mean if you really know your shit then you should have no problem answering my questions. There's over 60,000 threads on this site, I'm not prepared to look through 10,000 (give or take) organic posts to find a few answers or possibly none at all. Don't mean to sound like an asshole or anything, my point is simply that if I wanted to learn by just reading and not asking, then I wouldn't of registered to this site. Thanks though.
 

Gastanker

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Organic nutrients come in two forms - already ionized which are immediately available and non mineralized or non soluble which much be broken down by bacteria before the plant can use it. Generally bone, blood, and feather meals are completely time released (non soluble) and guanos, kelp meals, and fish emulsion are generally 50+% immediate release and the rest time release. The speed of the time release is dependent on the health of your soil and the amount of micro organism within it.

Here is what I try to do:
It's all about maintaining the ideal ratio of N:P:K while accounting for time released nutes and immediately available nutes.

Here is a chart of roughly my nute schedule:


I aim for a high N with some P to start with, then have the P gradually over take the N around second week of flower, and finally ramp up the K at the end.

On my chart the names of the nutes are just labels - so the second bat guano watering would be in week 3, not week 2, and disburse 5-1-1, the 10-3-1 is there just to remind you of the actual rating on the box.
 

hopeyougotadutch

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Hello, gastanker thanks for the response. And thanks for the simply put response, very nice. I was looking at your CFL grow, very inspiring. Is everything else provided to the plants through the soil? Or are there more ingredients than the 3 that I see listed in your chart, that you add in with your feedings?
 

Gastanker

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On my chart are 2 different bone meals, 2 different bat guanos, as well as kelp meal. You could add everything at one time to the soil and then not touch it durring the grow but I personally add half the bone meal and half the bat guano directly to the soil in the beginning and then top dress once more before flowering. I also water with a bat guano and kelp meal tea.

If you want a soil that doesn't ever need to be amended check out subcools supersoil. https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil.html
 

growone

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i will mention MG's Organic Bone Meal, though the MG name gets little respect
but this is a good product(6-9-0), it's all slow release, and a modest price
 
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