Am I the only one that doesn't want weed to become legal?

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I can't stand the thought of weed becoming completely legal in the US. Hear me out, this is from a grower's standpoint. If I didn't make part of my income from growing, I probably would love the thought.

The price of weed will drop so low, it won't even be worth growing to sell. You won't be able to compete with companies that grow cannabis to package and sell joints by the billions. Look at Tobacco or any other cash crop today. You wouldn't hold a candle growing your own Tobacco and selling it to people today. Why would someone want to buy tobacco from you, when they can just go down to the corner store and buy a pack of cigarettes for a few bucks.
Anyway, I'm curious to see if someone else feels the same way. Or perhaps, enlightens me with some good points.

Discuss.

Many growers have the same opinion. I see where you're coming from, but since I don't grow I'm all about low prices, and would love to be able to grow a personal stash without worrying about jail.

pacificarage said:

If I didn't make part of my income from growing, I probably would love the thought.

The price of weed will drop so low, it won't even be worth growing to sell. You won't be able to compete with companies that grow cannabis to package and sell joints by the billions.

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People will grow it in their own backyards, spend money on real shit - like college.

Why do you think it will be so cheap? Tobacco may kill ya but it won't get you high and its not cheap any more. Ever check into just Fed tax on alcohol? It's not really that cheap either. Though some states have legalized it, weed is still a Fed class I drug; and until its both declassified and made federally legal for all purposes (med and rec), you'll never be able go to the corner store and get it much less for cheap. Plus, the Feds might change its mind about prosecution unless it is indeed legal. Then, there will be the taxes on it. As well, big corps aren't that quickly responsive and the weed market likes choice, lots of choices.

There will always be a place for the private grower

Yeah youll be able to charge whatever you want if you grow the best. Like boutiques do for shoes and clothes. I wouldnt though. I would love a price drop and legalization on some level whether medical or rec. More business for me more product in the hands of people who want/need it and people dont have to hide it as a hobby so even more business from that potential jobs for a bunch of people who were either laid off or had a hard time getting a job because they smoke a couple times a week.

Its like when you have a sale. You take that small 5-15% even 50% price drop for 10x the customers buying things. So would you rather make a legal million, or an illegal 2 million? Thats the real question.

The actual issue lies within capitalism and it's cannibalistic practices. If the system didn't push for too-big-to-fail monopolies, eating away every small and medium companies in every industry, but actually lean towards real competition, it'd be quite different.

pacificarage said:

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I can't stand the thought of weed becoming completely legal in the US. Hear me out, this is from a grower's standpoint. If I didn't make part of my income from growing, I probably would love the thought.

The price of weed will drop so low, it won't even be worth growing to sell. You won't be able to compete with companies that grow cannabis to package and sell joints by the billions. Look at Tobacco or any other cash crop today. You wouldn't hold a candle growing your own Tobacco and selling it to people today. Why would someone want to buy tobacco from you, when they can just go down to the corner store and buy a pack of cigarettes for a few bucks.
Anyway, I'm curious to see if someone else feels the same way. Or perhaps, enlightens me with some good points.

Discuss.

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So you'd like to see people keep getting jailed for it, harassed, and profiting the black market and cartels so you can keep your profits from your little grow? Does that about sum it up? Just simple greed?

OK. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but that's what it sounds like.

yeah you should probably think about someone other than yourself for this topic..your reasoning is just plain selfish to be honest with you.

Singlemalt said:

until its both declassified and made federally legal for all purposes (med and rec), you'll never be able go to the corner store and get it much less for cheap.

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Actually, we will be able to go down to the corner store(or at least a retail dispensary) and get it here in Colorado on Jan 1st. Screw the feds.

Just wondering if you are paying taxes on that cannabis income?

Or do we keep it medical. All states. U have a tooth ache = og kush, u break your hand = og kush, u strain you pecker jerking off = og kush, u stub your toe = og kush... Just a thought.

BWG707 said:

Just wondering if you are paying taxes on that cannabis income?

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Police officer????

gR33nDav3l0l said:

The actual issue lies within capitalism and it's cannibalistic practices. If the system didn't push for too-big-to-fail monopolies, eating away every small and medium companies in every industry, but actually lean towards real competition, it'd be quite different.

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Well said, man. Makes me fucking sick.

JackTheBongRipper said:

So you'd like to see people keep getting jailed for it, harassed, and profiting the black market and cartels so you can keep your profits from your little grow? Does that about sum it up? Just simple greed?

OK. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but that's what it sounds like.

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Yes, that's exactly what I want to see. You've got it.
I'll admit my concerns are selfish, but I wouldn't consider growing to put food on the table 'greed'.
How would you like your boss to inform you that you were getting laid off for the sake of the company? Would your concerns be the welfare of the company?

a mongo frog said:

Or do we keep it medical. All states. U have a tooth ache = og kush, u break your hand = og kush, u strain you pecker jerking off = og kush, u stub your toe = og kush... Just a thought.

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No no no no.

Dental Dank
Palm Leaf
Peckerweed
HydroToe

Gotta use the specific meds!

pacificarage said:

Well said, man. Makes me fucking sick.



Yes, that's exactly what I want to see. You've got it.
I'll admit my concerns are selfish, but I wouldn't consider growing to put food on the table 'greed'.
How would you like your boss to inform you that you were getting laid off for the sake of the company? Would your concerns be the welfare of the company?

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i don't like your analogy lol. we're talking about the welfare of this entire nation, not a little company you work for.

regardless, growing marijuana is not a dependable income. you really need to get a real job and maybe grow some herb on the side if you wish..but doing it "to put food on the table" - damn dude i don't think i'd go that route..especially if i'm not legal.

pacificarage said:

Yes, that's exactly what I want to see. You've got it.
I'll admit my concerns are selfish, but I wouldn't consider growing to put food on the table 'greed'.
How would you like your boss to inform you that you were getting laid off for the sake of the company? Would your concerns be the welfare of the company?

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You are putting food on your table at the expense of other people risking being imprisoned, or much worse when people rob or kill during illegal drug deals. I hope your family chokes on that food. It comes from blood money. You want to perpetuate a system that harms others, while enriching yourself. Yeah, I don't call that greed, I would call it plain evil.

I've been laid off from a job. I got a new job.

gR33nDav3l0l said:

The actual issue lies within capitalism and it's cannibalistic practices. If the system didn't push for too-big-to-fail monopolies, eating away every small and medium companies in every industry, but actually lean towards real competition, it'd be quite different.

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I suggest that in an actual capitalist system (which is by itself an abstraction) "too big to fail" doesn't happen. Competitive firms are competent. Only when cronyism is protected by the political power structure, regardless of the avowed philosophy of the sponsor state, can a company be "too big to fail", be it Chrysler or Aeroflot.

The Republicans in my state are passing 'just in case' laws now, so that if (when) Congress lowers it to a schedule 2 substance they can dip their paws into the money stream by controlling how and from who it is obtained. I assure you, they do this with a business model written in today's prices. There is no way they're going to let the prices drop once they are owed a piece of the action.
What was a somewhat utopian thought by logical people (grow your own in the back yard, spend your money on real shit) is now just a pipe dream and you'll be labeled tree huggers or dirty hippies when you question it.
Because for now they had to, they include a grandfather clause situation for current legal caregivers and patients, but as sure as the sun rises they will need to eliminate that competition when shit gets real later, on after the change in scheduling.

cannabineer said:

I suggest that in an actual capitalist system (which is by itself an abstraction) "too big to fail" doesn't happen. Competitive firms are competent. Only when cronyism is protected by the political power structure, regardless of the avowed philosophy of the sponsor state, can a company be "too big to fail", be it Chrysler or Aeroflot.

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Actual capitalism is quite the Utopian dream, I've yet to see real competitiveness. But I live in Latin America, nothing ever develops as it would in other places.

gR33nDav3l0l said:

Actual capitalism is quite the Utopian dream, I've yet to see real competitiveness. But I live in Latin America, nothing ever develops as it would in other places.

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The interaction of culture with politics is a fascinating bewildering tapestry woven in a million saturated colors. It defies the neat classifications college professors love to trot out for the bright-eyed students. What works in Hokkaido wouldn't work in the Languedoc or in Araucania. I think that the source of the frustration and the beauty are the same: local culture and history. Imperial societies, like current-day USA, so easily fall into the false assumption that they're onto something generally right or true.