Amber Alert

subcool

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So you have worked hard for 8 weeks! You have invested money into equipment and possibly genetics; you have invested time and dedication to get to this point. How can you tell when it’s time to harvest your gooey girls? Well ‘fire one up’ and let’s take a look at the best way to be sure you’re harvesting at peak potency, or at least you will better understand what happens in the final weeks, so you can harvest for the specific type of high you prefer.
The harvest window is one aspect of the craft which unfortunately, gets over looked or the grower simply doesn’t have the patience to wait-out the last few days, to insure max THC content. Some strains are better harvested before their peak THC production and some are better harvested after their peak THC production. This is what Robert Clark wrote in his book “Marijuana Botany” about trichomes and what they tell us; “The elevated resin heads appear clear, since fresh resin is still being secreted, often being produced in the cellular head of the trichome. At this time THC acid production is at a peak and CBD acid levels remain stable as the molecules are rapidly converted to THC acids, THC acid synthesis has not been active long enough for a high level of CBN acid to build up from the degradation of THC acid by light and heat. Terpene production is also nearing a peak and the floral clusters are beautifully aromatic. Many cultivators prefer to pick some of their strains during this stage in order to produce marijuana with a clear, cerebral, psychoactive effect It is believed that, in peak floral clusters, the low levels of CBD and CBN allow the high level of THC to act without their sedative effects.”
What the hell does this mean?
When growing Indica hybrids, unless you want to end up on the couch, it’s best to harvest when the trichome heads are fully formed but before they start to cloud over and turn amber. According to the maturation time of the specific strain this could take as little as five days or as long as two weeks. If you allow an Indica to go too long you can dramatically affect the taste and high. Fortunately going too long is not a real problem for most people. I like to study close-up photos taken with a high resolution digital camera; however an inexpensive hand-held microscope works wonders. It almost looks like you are in an alien world when looking at resinated buds using fifty-times-power.
With the Sativa dominant hybrids you want to make sure that all the trichome heads are fully formed and also about thirty percent amber. Letting a plant mature beyond this will risk flavor as well as, the finished smoke may be harsh with very little “high”. There are exceptions as I mentioned; Haze has three different harvest windows all being very late into flower. It is every grower’s job to learn what he or his patients prefer in the terms of “High”.
We have not yet addressed yields because if you are at the third stage of floral maturity with fully form trichomes, then we will have to assume most strains have packed on all their final weight. Even then, there are variables but we can use the guide-lines spelled out below to help gauge the best harvest window for your plants based on the trichomes.

1. Fully formed but still clear will provide a cleaner ‘up’ high with less sedative effect; this is the best window for heavy Indicas.
2. Fully formed and turning slightly cloudy or milky; this is probably the best time to pick most hybrids available today.
3. Fully formed completely cloudy or milky with at least thirty percent of the heads turning amber; this is usually best window for the late maturing Sativa’s such as Haze. This is also a good window when using the plant primarily for Hash production.

Take for instance the Jacks Cleaner harvested at fifty-six days; all trichomes are still visibly clear with very few turning cloudy. At this point it has a very ‘up’ high and an ‘in-the-head’ buzz. I get some good visuals and the lemon flavor is sour and a tad tart. The same plant, left just one more week at sixty-three days flower; the trichomes have turned milky white and a good portion, about thirty to fifty percent, are deep amber almost the color of cola. Taken at this time the smoke is heavy and thick, the lemon zing has been replaced with a musty sweet lemon smell that reminds me of ‘Lemon Heads’ candy. The high is now all body high and very much a sedative. We would smoke this only as our night time medication. It is almost an example of a plant taken too late, however we do this because of the medicinal properties she takes-on at this late stage.
Another example is Killer Queen. At forty-nine days flower, she has a candy-like smell and taste with that same ‘up’ high. If you were to harvest her at sixty days flower, she becomes ‘Super’ Killer Queen, with a more skunk-like smell and a thicker trance-like high.
The mistake to try and avoid is harvesting before the trichomes are fully formed, so as mentioned in the guideline; most growers whom use this method, harvest at the point in which the majority of the heads are cloudy. Harvesting before this window will produce bud that is less potent, containing less essential oils and trepans, causing your finished stash to take on a grassy or green taste, even if it is dried and cured correctly.
Another good method would be harvesting some of the more mature buds, usually being the upper or main colas. This will allow more light to shine down on the lower portion of the plant, not only will the buds mature further but they will also pack on some extra size.
If you have a nice digital camera with a macro feature, try taking some close-up photos and use a photo editing program such as Adobe. This will allow you to zoom in close so you can see what the necked eye cannot see. If this is not an option, Radio Shack sells battery-powered hand-held microscopes for about fifteen dollars.
Take advantage of this information, it will help maximize the results of your favorite strain, or help you determine the harvest window of something new.

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subcool

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OK you sholdn't need any nutrients when double budding but there are some tips and tricks as I used to have a good buddy that was a master of it.

At about 55-66 days he chopped the main colas off his intire canopy. he grew SSK, HP, Cali O , Romberry, and a few others. This went to market and the lowers were left to fill out for 10-14 extra days. This can increase the lower yields as much as 30% and provide some bad ass headie golf balls for your head stash without the giant stems that come with the spears.

this works great provided you don't have a 24" crop waiting for the bud space like I do while running a 3 part set up.

If you remove this lower crap anyway beforehand many think the extra energy goes up top and ads to that weight but it's hard to say but many growers swear to it. I remove a huge portion of lowers as clones and later in a second clean up for air under canopy.

Many strains actually mature faster on bottom and the heads never seem to finish I see this more in soil gardens with taller plants though.

Learn your favorite strains make sure you take some stash at different intervals and you will find that perfect harvest window.
 

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ORECAL

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great read sub! although this states harvesting a bit earlier than other things I've seen.
 

Florida Girl

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Hey Subcool... thanks for the very informative thread. This is just the kind of information that helps us noobs who are still trying to understand the finer points of when to harvest.

One thing that would be helpful is if you edit the posts and indicate in the text where you are describing if you could give us the pic. # attached that you are discussing. I'm sure it's easy for the more experienced gardeners to know exactly what picture goes with what description.... but us noobs have a little more trouble making the connection.

Thanks again... great thread and a + rep for you :D
 

subcool

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great read sub! although this states harvesting a bit earlier than other things I've seen.
Yep I am always breaking the mold on things you know this!
Everything I grow ruins my head so it really gets down to a matter of flavor.
I find my buds taste better and more importantly my bubble taste better when I shoot for about 30% Amber and when I go past this as I do some harvest on purpose we find our favorite stash weed is always harsher and less enjoyable to smoke. The difference in potency again is something I can judge I can't smoke a whole joint of Apollo at day 54 or 62 but the ealier harvested buds taste better to me.
 

mrskitz

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very imformative,but its obvious clear= not ready,cloudy=peak ready and amber couch lock,,so its all about getting the right balance for you,,also sometimes the lower nuggets mature before the colas,so sometimes you havta cut them before the colas are ready,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,peace
 

#1accordfamily

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can u explain what happens to buds if they start to re-veg. i tryed to finish my first harvest outside about 6 weeks in and by week 8 i had alot of leaves poping out of my buds but the lil hairs where amber so i choped it and left some to finish in the flower room , so far they have tons more crystals on them than b4. the smoke is good but i feel like adding that extra 2 hours(14hr days) outside threw week 7 and 8 fucked my plant
 

subcool

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can u explain what happens to buds if they start to re-veg. i tryed to finish my first harvest outside about 6 weeks in and by week 8 i had alot of leaves poping out of my buds but the lil hairs where amber so i choped it and left some to finish in the flower room , so far they have tons more crystals on them than b4. the smoke is good but i feel like adding that extra 2 hours(14hr days) outside threw week 7 and 8 fucked my plant

The flower/bloom cycle of cannabis is controlled by a chemical/hormone that builds up during dark hours, so during veg with only 6 hours dark, the plant doesnt build up enough of this hormone to trigger flowering responce... once dark hours are lengthenned then slightly more hormine is produced during 12hrs dark than is destroyed during 12 hours light... so after roughly 2 weeks the hormone builds up to a level that triggers the flowering stage..


We call this "the Trigger" and while some strains will still flower in 13 and even some sativas in 14 hours of light most growers stick with the tryed and true 12/12 method and if you place a plant outdoors it can revert back into the vegative state.
This is what it sounds like you have done.
 

bonghits4all

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great read great info from a master breeder how cool is that? anyway subcool what is your prefered method to cure properly
 
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