Animal & Pest control thread

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Outdoor growing and Your environment

If you've grown outdoors then you've probably came across your plants being ate from time to time. There are a few simple steps you can do to remedy this problem.

Index:
--Part 1: Identifying the culprit--
-Part 2: Finding the proper solution-
-Part 3: Different types of solutions
Part 4: Prevention & damage control
Part 5: Last resort(kill method)
Part 6: Non kill methods of control


Please don't post on this thread until you see the mice :)
 

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Part 1: Identifying the culprit
- The first step to finding the proper solution is to identify what's eating your plants.
There are usually tell tale signs of whats eating your plants by whats around them.
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Things to consider:
-At what height was the plant ate from?
-Was the plants skin chaffed
-What parts of the leaves/buds were ate
-How much was ate
-what footprints were around


If you can't find footprints or animal markings. There are always game cameras.
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I highly recommend having these on your plants anyways. but REMEMBER TO DISENGAGE Them when you're around AND CHECK REGULARLY!

Things to remember:
Most inexpensive camera's are motion activated & picking a good spot is KEY
-1. Have a good angle
-2. Pick a spot where if there is wind the plant movement won't set it off
-3. have your options open (cover multiple routes)
 

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-Part 2: Finding the proper solution-
When it comes to solving your problem it is imperative that you find whats eating your plants so the appropriate action can be taken.

At this moment I'm only going to cover the big four

Rabbits: These are by far the easiest to take care of and are a quick fix at a little budget:
Common solutions:
-Traps
-Urine
-Protective barrier

Deer: This guys can be a bit more difficult to deal with due to there incredible persistence.
-Traps
-Urine
-Patience

Squirrels: By far the biggest threat to your plants due the fact they really don't give a shit what you do to stop them
-Snare traps & a 22


Cats: As much as I hate to say it cats take the cake for being greedy bastards they will eat an entire plant in a day and leave you with a scratched up husk.
- As I don't condone Killing cat's the only option is to live trap them & turn them over to animal control


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Birds:
Birds deserve a section of there own because there are a limited amount of things you can do with them
-Traps
-Diversion- Setting a alternative method of food

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Underground Predators:
When it comes to underground predators your safest option is a layer of gravel between your soil and plants. ( I speak from experience when I say problem solved )
Moles: Not a big problem
Gophers: Not a big problem
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Bugs & Parasites
*KEY THING TO REMEMBER*
(Bugs and parasites are a case by case problem/solution & should be treated as such)
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*Bugs are not a huge problem for me so I don't have much experience*


Bud worms:
Gnats:
Caterpillars:
Aphids:


 

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-Part 3: Different types of solutions

Snares: Snares come in all different shapes & sizes. The sky is the limit
http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads//2012/03/snare-diagram-1.jpg
https://www.pcsoutdoors.com/images/snare washer lock swivel.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uC-tWmIBs0

Fermented urine: Fermented urine as terrible as it sounds is the best method for removing animals.(Drives them nuts) -Unfortunately deer get used it periodically

Fencing: For rabbits alone protective fencing is a good option but unfortunately only works some of the time.
 

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Part 4: Prevention & damage control

Prevention
Before you do anything else there are steps you can take to prevent a multitude of outdoor problems:
-Onions
-Fermented urine
-Lilacs
-Fencing
-Hunting the area



Damage control
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Part 5: Last resort(kill method)
If using protective scents and fencing doesn't work don't worry there solutions.

-Tree snares: If you have trees in your area and the weather is good I suggest that you use these over ground snares.

-Ground Snares: These should be your go to trap when it comes to prevention; They are extremely inexpensive & easy to learn

-Deadfalls: These can be particularly annoying to people who are impatient & I recommend doing your research.

-Pit traps: I highly recommend steering clear of this trap unless a veteran trapper teaches it to you. There are many things that can go wrong



Things to remember:
*You can't be at your spot 24/7 shooting that walks by
*Have a map of where you put your traps
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Part 6: Last resort (Non kill)
Traps:
Let's say you don't want to kill the animals that are stealing your plants don't worry I got you covered.

When it comes to live traps there is no way around the fact is going to be expensive. So do your research. I've had the most luck with this particular type but you can pick and choose what ever you want.

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There are cheaper alternatives but most are extremely noneffective.
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Diversion: I personally don't recommend this but it pains me to say that this method does work.

Step 1: Make sure you know what you're going to be feeding
Step 2: Determining the adequate amount
Step 3: Distributing the feed or feeder plants in the proper area
Step 4: Evaluating the success of this method.( This step is very simple,ARE YOUR PLANTS STILL GETTING EATEN, & if so to what degree?)

*Things to consider*
-Have the animals made a habit of eating your plants?
-This may attract predators
-Is this practical to my situation

 

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-Part 3: Different types of solutions

Snares: Snares come in all different shapes & sizes. The sky is the limit
http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads//2012/03/snare-diagram-1.jpg
https://www.pcsoutdoors.com/images/snare washer lock swivel.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uC-tWmIBs0

Fermented urine: Fermented urine as terrible as it sounds is the best method for removing animals.(Drives them nuts) -Unfortunately deer get used it periodically

Fencing: For rabbits alone protective fencing is a good option but unfortunately only works some of the time.



Traping with traditional methods (snares legholds) is a skill that needs to be practiced to be effective at all, A great skill to learn but the typical J Doe is alot better off with something like a Have-A-Heart / Box, type trap
 

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Traping with traditional methods (snares legholds) is a skill that needs to be practiced to be effective at all, A great skill to learn but the typical J Doe is alot better off with something like a Have-A-Heart / Box, type trap

Same can be said with anything :), it's also different everywhere you go

Edit: Funny you say that I posted a link from have-a-heart on the non-kill side
 

twostrokenut

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Deer and moles (boles they called them) were my only problems.

Moles were handled with smart pots and a pallet barrier....didn't need the barrier though next year posts went on the ground and np.

Had a 6ft fence for deer they would sheer any growth extending beyond....they jumped in over too...didn't eat much.

Lots of squirrels they seemed to like acorns better than sensi.

Smartpots, a good fence, a dog, acorns and planting more than any animal could eat were my best defense.
 

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Deer and moles (boles they called them) were my only problems.

Moles were handled with smart pots and a pallet barrier....didn't need the barrier though next year posts went on the ground and np.

Had a 6ft fence for deer they would sheer any growth extending beyond....they jumped in over too...didn't eat much.

Lots of squirrels they seemed to like acorns better than sensi.

Smartpots, a good fence, a dog, acorns and planting more than any animal could eat were my best defense.


Hmmm, I've always wondered about smart pots, has stunting every been a issue for you?
 

twostrokenut

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No stunting that I could discern......they were 300 gal and 400gal.....even the 100gal I didn't notice any but I used those for some late plants.
 

Rob Roy

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Believe it or not this may not be the case. I've had 2 month pepper/tomato patch ate to shit by squirrels & deer so.(Case by case basis)

Sorry for not being more clear. HABENERO PEPPER spray. Good indoors for mites too.
 
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