aNoob first CFL grow bagseed

Sire Killem All

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Well i guess i should jus start a journal for ez tracking of my journey. well it started when my gf asked about how to germ a seed in paper towel, so showed her with no real care to finish it was jus a show and tell i guess. Once i seen it growing i jus couldn't kill it, so i left it in the towel for almost a week after it sprouted due to not having money at the time or anything for plants, dirt/pot/light nothing. When i finally got a pot ready for it the tap root was around 3 1/2" long and coiled in the paper towel, after awhile of carefully removing the root and planting it i layed a lamp with a 13w 2700k cfl in it. plant actually started to grow :o. dundadaa straight to the internet i went to figure out where to start. upon seeing small cfl setups i decided that was the route for me(can't drop a lot of money into it yet) so i grabbed the Tin Foil and made a small closed in area of my computer desk and started it on a 24/0. While that work well for awhile i had the need to make it better so moved computer and flipped the desk and started retro'n it to fit my needs. got rid of the tin foil for an emergency blanket, bought 2x23w 5000k cfl w/10.5" cone shaped reflector, busted down a old lamp and hung the 13w 2700k next to it, vented by 2x80mm cpu fans<exhaust/intake>. started LST on it and topped it, after about 4 days of no growth near where i topped i chopped it again but this time near the 3rd node where it had already started to grow branches which was so far down i couldn't continue with LST'n it. lil while later bought another "Y" adapter and broke down a old ceiling fan <already dual socketed> so was able to add 3 more lights though all i had on hand was 13w 2700k bulbs, so thats what i used. it worked well till i got a thermometer and seen it was around 88 - 90°F removed the reflector as i thought it might be part of my heat problem so i removed it, made a small difference but now i jus leave the door open and have the 20" fan blowing into the cabinet. the temps are down went it is open so debating on putting the reflector back on <suggestions?>. bought a 23w 2700k to replace a old 13w and a 6" fan for the corner to blow at lights, started LST again today with around 5 nice sized branches and a few small ones that were hidden from the bushiness of it. added a lil bit of nutes tonight only second time i have gave anything but distilled water, growing in a compost mix that was left from a old school gardener. Been thinking of putting the lights on a rail and try and get down to one plug for the light tho then i will feel the need to fill in the side lights:evil:...... here are pics i took over time. yea it seems long but started this late and i ramble.....
 

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think i might have made a mistake giving them the shot of nutes. gave them some last night about a hour after lights on and a lil more LST'n, woke up this morning and alot of my leaves are real heavy looking and drooping i hope it bounces back. gonna start extending the dark cycle by a hour a day till i get down to 12/12 starting today.
 
the first pic is the largest leaf, it is off the branch from topping. It has a Papery feel to it almost brittle tho it is not. i'm not sure what to make of it but she seems to be doing good think i finally got the temp problem fixed for now reading around 76F at the top . not sure if u can see the holes is bottom of pot but losing dirt from them and thought i seen some roots, should i jus pack some more dirt in to the holes or jus some scotchbrite pads in the holes to keep dirt in?
 

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updated, some leaves showing burn. had to move box into a closet so air is not as cool in there battling the heat every minute of the day. thermo showed it got upto 99F but i got it back down to 83-86F still room to lower i know hopefully i get a 6" exhaust fan off my bro-in-law... but till then this are from today some burn in the middle of leaves. New growth is nice and deep green tho the old growth in looking a lil high yellow and my 2 biggest fan leaves that dont get much light are really showing it.b but the temps are seeming to be my biggest problem..... so far no comments? well i guess none is better then trolls under my bridge..... Question if anyone even reads these, is it better to remove more air then putting in box or more in less out?
 

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That isn't nute burn. Nute burn is brown dead tips.

You have random patches of necrosis and maybe a potassium deficiency. What are you feeding her and how much?

Possibly too much nitrogen is causing a lockout or your PH is off.
 
i jus gave it the first feeding of real nutes, FF Big Gro. 1.5tps/1gal about 15 min ago. ending ph was around 6.0-6.5 only have drops to check. took her out the box and in the A/C for now. temps around 79 so happy there for now. should see a change by morning if it takes or not right.
 
jus noticed i can see small amounts of root on the surface in places and 1 is coming out of the center bottom hole. sholud i transplant it and if so should i wait till next pure water feeding?
 
update: trashed the stealth box and letting be in the open closet, ppl getting upset with lights off in middle of the day so they cant go into the kitchen..lol... she showed some nice growth after first feeding, but now i got some yellow leaves. clipped off 2 of the small branches from bottom of stock and put in 12-12 got to make sure she not a he before i keep this one going. jus got 2 seedling <random bag> popped thru 2 days ago plan on trying to main line one, and FiM the other. will be moving main plant over to 3 gallon if the clipping shows a fem..... i know this isn't some grade A genetics here but info or opinions are welcome...
 

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2 gifted WWxBB clones jus added the the bunch decide to pop 2 more bagseeds before i knew i was getting the clones
 

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decided to LST my bagseed in prep for move to larger pot, it has 4 branches 8" long and 2 that are 5" hope i see it's female got a small branch in water going 12-12. had to tighten them all up together do to the low lighting, don't wanna waste anymore money on CFL's since i plan on flipping to HPS/MH convertible..... love the red stripes on the branches tho they are starting to disappear. think most of the yellow is from leafs growing onto the soil and the feeding of nutes. no burn showing but they all did it once i started feeding, now after a second feed they were dead. last LST opened up the plant alot tho so hopefully now they all can grow up.
 

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installed 400 hps, removed the CFL 2700 but left my 2x23w 5000k in for back lighting. light @ 28" from canopy see what happens and adjust as needed.
 
the heat won. back light off a bit. transplanted today and re LST'd it. got branches on branches .
 

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took some pic the other day my branches' branches are as tall as a light now. the tree leaf branch is looking nice tops popping all over from last topping.
 

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