Another example of why voting for Romney is a bad idea for RUI posters.

canndo

Well-Known Member
Be careful what you text for in California.
On Monday the Supreme Court of California granted police officers the right to search a suspect's cell phone without a warrant.
Previously, the fourth amendment only allowed officers to search suspects for disclosed weapons without a warrant. According to the new 5-2 ruling, which can only be overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court, law enforcement officers can go through any content on a suspect's cell phone. According to SF Gate, the majority led by Justice Ming Chin relied on decisions from the 1970s which allowed searches of cigarette packages and clothing seized during an arrest, but without a warrant. In this week's court documents (PDF), the justiced pointed to a case in 2007. Police had caught Ventura County citizen Gregory Diaz trying to sell six pills of ecstasy, to which he denied. However a deputy sheriff, who had pocketed Diaz' cell phone during the arrest, found a text message reading '6 4 80,' which in his experience meant 'six pills for $80.' When confronted Diaz pled guilty but later appealed the unwarranted cell phone search. However the ruling raises privacy concerns, especially as cell phones become more indispensable and equipped with email, browsers, videos, apps, etc. And not every state agrees: In 2009, the Ohio Supreme Court cheekily noted that cell phones should be granted more privacy concerns than a package of cigarettes or a traditional address book. In debating whether or not a cell phone constitutes a "closed container" and therefore subject to a warrantless search, Justice Judith Ann Lanzinger wrote for the majority, "Objects falling under the banner of 'closed container' have traditionally been physical objects capable of holding other physical objects. ... Even the more basic models of modern cell phones are capable of storing a wealth of digitized information wholly unlike any physical object found within a closed container."


This will eventualy go to SCOTUS, it is more likely that a conservative court will see this as another new interegation method for police and uphold the ruling.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Be careful what you text for in California.
On Monday the Supreme Court of California granted police officers the right to search a suspect's cell phone without a warrant.
Previously, the fourth amendment only allowed officers to search suspects for disclosed weapons without a warrant. According to the new 5-2 ruling, which can only be overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court, law enforcement officers can go through any content on a suspect's cell phone. According to SF Gate, the majority led by Justice Ming Chin relied on decisions from the 1970s which allowed searches of cigarette packages and clothing seized during an arrest, but without a warrant. In this week's court documents (PDF), the justiced pointed to a case in 2007. Police had caught Ventura County citizen Gregory Diaz trying to sell six pills of ecstasy, to which he denied. However a deputy sheriff, who had pocketed Diaz' cell phone during the arrest, found a text message reading '6 4 80,' which in his experience meant 'six pills for $80.' When confronted Diaz pled guilty but later appealed the unwarranted cell phone search. However the ruling raises privacy concerns, especially as cell phones become more indispensable and equipped with email, browsers, videos, apps, etc. And not every state agrees: In 2009, the Ohio Supreme Court cheekily noted that cell phones should be granted more privacy concerns than a package of cigarettes or a traditional address book. In debating whether or not a cell phone constitutes a "closed container" and therefore subject to a warrantless search, Justice Judith Ann Lanzinger wrote for the majority, "Objects falling under the banner of 'closed container' have traditionally been physical objects capable of holding other physical objects. ... Even the more basic models of modern cell phones are capable of storing a wealth of digitized information wholly unlike any physical object found within a closed container."


This will eventualy go to SCOTUS, it is more likely that a conservative court will see this as another new interegation method for police and uphold the ruling.
Dear Canndo, you might not be aware but this was decision of the California Supreme Court. California is an overwhelmingly Democratic back water. To put this problem at the feet of Romney is ridiculous to say the least. I thought you wanted "truth" in politics, I suggest you start behaving truthfully.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Dear Canndo, you might not be aware but this was decision of the California Supreme Court. California is an overwhelmingly Democratic back water. To put this problem at the feet of Romney is ridiculous to say the least. I thought you wanted "truth" in politics, I suggest you start behaving truthfully.
If he tried he would likely sprain something....
 

SSHZ

Well-Known Member
Another example of the Democratic "way"........... truth is just another 4 letter word (NOT)!
 

canndo

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Dear Canndo, you might not be aware but this was decision of the California Supreme Court. California is an overwhelmingly Democratic back water. To put this problem at the feet of Romney is ridiculous to say the least. I thought you wanted "truth" in politics, I suggest you start behaving truthfully.

I am aware of who adjudicated the ruling. I do put the problem before Romney, or rather the pair of Alitos that he will introduce to the court for a long run of the conservative judicial brand of tyranny.


The California supreme court appointees include a single judge who was appointed by a Dem. (which makes my point for me)

My contention is as has been noted, Romney will put justices on the Supreme court who are more likely to find for police powers than for individual liberty.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
I am aware of who adjudicated the ruling. I do put the problem before Romney, or rather the pair of Alitos that he will introduce to the court for a long run of the conservative judicial brand of tyranny.


The California supreme court appointees include a single judge who was appointed by a Dem. (which makes my point for me)

My contention is as has been noted, Romney will put justices on the Supreme court who are more likely to find for police powers than for individual liberty.
Your contention is absurd.

I would like to add to this...

Romney has a record. He was the governor of Massachusetts. I find it simply AMAZING that his record was so good that the liberals cannot find anything but Romneycare to point to when attacking him.

You aint got nothing but scare tactics...
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
Your contention is absurd.

I would like to add to this...

Romney has a record. He was the governor of Massachusetts. I find it simply AMAZING that his record was so good that the liberals cannot find anything but Romneycare to point to when attacking him.

You aint got nothing but scare tactics...
You are so full of shit (as usual).


  1. During his tenure as Governor, Massachussetts was ranked 47th for job creation
  2. He raised taxes and fees by 750 million annually on middle class families and small businesses
  3. At the end of his term Massachussetts ranked 1st in the nation for highest per capita debt and left with a billion dollar budget gap.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Your contention is absurd.

I would like to add to this...

Romney has a record. He was the governor of Massachusetts. I find it simply AMAZING that his record was so good that the liberals cannot find anything but Romneycare to point to when attacking him.

You aint got nothing but scare tactics...


I can see then that you have not been watching what the rightists judges have been doing to your proceedural rights and those of marijuana users.


But sure, let's have Romney in office and put another couple of conservative justices in SCOTUS and watch police power and the power of the justice system grow while the individual loses more and more footing in the courts, in their homes and in their autos.

The smoking right never sees all the issues, they never see the consequences of their actions. We know that Romney is not going to legalize, at least we can keep more damage from being done to our situations.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
You are so full of shit (as usual).


  1. During his tenure as Governor, Massachussetts was ranked 47th for job creation
  2. He raised taxes and fees by 750 million annually on middle class families and small businesses
  3. At the end of his term Massachussetts ranked 1st in the nation for highest per capita debt and left with a billion dollar budget gap.
please no facts... The new Mitt Romney does not acknowledge past statements, records, or any facts.
 

RobbieP

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back to the original post ... im from Uk so dont even care tbh BUT how the hell can they search your phone without a warrent yet if you where carrying a laptop whne you get pulled surly they cant just go through that and in todays day and age the content on a laptop and on a mobile can be almost the same ......
 

Fungus Gnat

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Mitt "Karma Sutra" Romney -- 10,000 positions and you get fucked by all of them.
 

rollinbud

Active Member
You are so full of shit (as usual).


  1. During his tenure as Governor, Massachussetts was ranked 47th for job creation
  2. He raised taxes and fees by 750 million annually on middle class families and small businesses
  3. At the end of his term Massachussetts ranked 1st in the nation for highest per capita debt and left with a billion dollar budget gap.

You make that crap up all by yourself or can you supply a source for those "facts"?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
You make that crap up all by yourself or can you supply a source for those "facts"?
He can but when you start looking into the details the *facts* are not all that bad.

1. Unemployment was around 4% in Massachusetts... 3% is basically considered full employment.

Also, he ignored stuff like Massachusetts was 1st in education which totally blow's Obamas lies about him not caring about kids,etc...
 

UncleBuck

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He can but when you start looking into the details the *facts* are not all that bad.

1. Unemployment was around 4% in Massachusetts... 3% is basically considered full employment.

Also, he ignored stuff like Massachusetts was 1st in education which totally blow's Obamas lies about him not caring about kids,etc...
are you talking about the same romney who tried to claim that the number of kids per teacher is irrelevant earlier this year and who said we need to learn the lessons of wisconsin, namely that teachers are to be relegated to secondary status behind tax breaks for corporations?
 

UncleBuck

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Your contention is absurd.

I would like to add to this...

Romney has a record. He was the governor of Massachusetts. I find it simply AMAZING that his record was so good that the liberals cannot find anything but Romneycare to point to when attacking him.

You aint got nothing but scare tactics...
i would point out the fact that he raised every single fee imaginable during his time as governor, fees which hurt the working poor, middle class, and small businesses disproportionately.
 

FreedomWorks

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nice attempt at deflection, kiddo.

doesn't change the fact that willard raised every fee imaginable on the middle class, working poor, and small businesses though.

written in crayon to abet understanding.
When Obama took office gas was 1.84$ a gallon. Since then hes cut drilling in half, and the burden its put on the middle class has more than doubled. 4.65$ for a gallon of gas where I live. You don't think people in the middle class notice things like that? Wealth being taken away from us. The cost of education has gone way up under Obama. Same with inflation. People notice when they have less money. Obama is not fooling anybody, and blaming Bush is not a solution to the problem. Just a deflection from Obama's failed policies.
 

UncleBuck

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When Obama took office gas was 1.84$ a gallon. Since then hes cut drilling in half, and the burden its put on the middle class has more than doubled. 4.65$ for a gallon of gas where I live. You don't think people in the middle class notice things like that? Wealth being taken away from us. The cost of education has gone way up under Obama. Same with inflation. People notice when they have less money. Obama is not fooling anybody, and blaming Bush is not a solution to the problem. Just a deflection from Obama's failed policies.
gas was cheap when bush left office because the economy tanked to all holy hell on his watch.

gas costs less when there is no demand for it, kiddo.

written in crayon to abet in understanding.

 

FreedomWorks

Well-Known Member
gas was cheap when bush left office because the economy tanked to all holy hell on his watch.

gas costs less when there is no demand for it, kiddo.

written in crayon to abet in understanding.

Gas prices are going up because of inflation. That started happening under Obama's watch. Gas prices are also going up because Obama's regulatory policies that are creating additional expenses, then those are being passed on to the consumer. Obama doesn't care about gas prices. He doesn't even have a plan. His jet fuel is free. All paid for by tax payers. Ryan is going to kick Biden's ass. And it will be glorious
 
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