anyone use mm for metal illness, psychotic symptoms,mood disorder

I use mm to treat a psychotic disorder calle schizoaffective. On top of taking a dily dose of antipsychotic and anti depressants I have foundcannabs to be very effective in controlling symptoms including pranoia, suicidal thopughts, hearing voices (to an extent) and it is an exelent way to elevate your mood.
I was reading in high times about studies over seas and in he u.s. being done in order t prove tht marijuana CAUSES mental illness and psychosis. Itwas a great read and made me realize that there are many people out there sffering from mental impairments that use cannabi sfely to alleviate syptoms. And the crazy prohibitionists will stop at nothing to ensure the reputation that cannbis is not medicine an any other lie they get to mislead the public with.
So if theres anyone on riu that uses mm to control mental illness let me know. The good and the bad.

Well for mental illness. MM can definitely help you diagnose your situation better, and deal with your problems. It really removes stress and lets you work with yourself.

But it can be bad because of psychological addiction. This isn\'t because weed causes a addiction, it is because you become Dependant on anything that helps, especially if you have a mental illness that is described as such.

Weed isn\'t going to do any damage that wasn\'t there before. It is very safe. Whats not safe is all the brainwashing that causes mental illness.

incidentally I read in the oregonian a while back that a study dne over a period oftme was idicating that the people who are prescribed some of these anti-psychotics were dying 15- 20 years earlier than a person who doesnt take them. A guy at mywellness center just died a few weeks ago and was only in his early 50's. And not to metion the movement disordersthat people come down with as side effcts of these meds. My doctor told me it was likely that I will take meication indeffinately to insure that I dont suffer any relapse. And honestly if my doctor tells me to take these mds im going to listen t hr because I dont want to end up in the mental ward.
But one of the cool things that has caused positive change was rediscovering marijuana after an almost 6 year hiatus. Istrted smoking jst the tinyest amount in a cigarette and I would gt stoned, but not intense enough to have a negative reaction from it and worked my tolerance up from there. Now I got a reccomendation to grow 20 immature and 10 mature plants and can posess 3 lbs. But I do depend on weed as much as I depend on my oher meds. I sinceely believe that if I had not been taking medication I could not smoke pot ad enjoy its many benifits. Back in the day it cased me nothng but nightmarish panic attacks that would last for up to an hour. So of course I ddnt want to smoke the shit.

I would really advise against any of those Designer Drugs, for your own safty. I can only tell you to go see a Homeopathic Doctor, one who is more holistic.

Natural cures are extremely effective if you are open to them. If you dont believe they will work... why would they?

And my best recomendation of ALL is to start doing yoga and meditation... If you are into any metaphysics or anything of that nature, one starts to realize that all negative emotions are actually stored in the body, in muscles and in organs. You must start learning to truly relax. Most people unconsciously hold TONSSSSSSSS of bad energy/emotions/hate/suisidal thoughts in their body. Once you realize this you can start to make progress. Start to notice how every time you feel a negative emotion you tense a body part. That is how you store these negatie emotions. Once you can see it coming and consciously Relax, you will realize you have total control over yourself.

If you actually are interested in gaining some mental health, start to do some Yoga..etc when you smoke some MM

Once you get used to this stuff, it becomes routine to relax, and you do it automatically (just as it used to be routine to store those emotions). All thats needed is some Re-wireing or Re-programming of the mind pattern!

soulflyx2k said:

I would really advise against any of those Designer Drugs, for your own safty. I can only tell you to go see a Homeopathic Doctor, one who is more holistic.

Natural cures are extremely effective if you are open to them. If you dont believe they will work... why would they?

And my best recomendation of ALL is to start doing yoga and meditation... If you are into any metaphysics or anything of that nature, one starts to

realize that all negative emotions are actually stored in the body, in muscles and in organs. You must start learning to truly relax. Most people unconsciously hold TONSSSSSSSS of bad energy/emotions/hate/suisidal thoughts in their body. Once you realize this you can start to make progress. Start to notice how every time you feel a negative emotion you tense a body part.

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That is how you store these negatie emotions. Once you can see it coming and consciously Relax, you will realize you have total control over yourself.

If you actually are interested in gaining some mental health, start to do some Yoga..etc when you smoke some MM

Once you get used to this stuff, it becomes routine to relax, and you do it automatically (just as it used to be routine to store those emotions). All thats needed is some Re-wireing or Re-programming of the mind pattern!

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yes, acctually I have looked into some naturalremedys based on diet and nutrition tht are supposed to treat symptom. I found one in a fairly popular book called Nutritional Healing and I know pople that swear by this book, even close faMily members. Its a big thick book that is carried by most organic food co-ops and sells for around $40. It reads like a text book too, jammed packed full of information. ut I triedgoing of of my medication for a summer and ate only organic fods, started taking th amno acid supplements the book reccomended and I was working heavy construction for 10 hrs a day as a mason tender. And I met a buddhist monk from thailand and strted atening his mditation grups. So I was doing all this healthy stuff physically, mentally, spirtually. (i also was doing juce fasts over the weekends wen I washed dishes at a chinese resterant) Well t make a long storyfairly sort, the whole damn thing blew upin myface and i wentall the way back to square one.
But the other thing, bout the mucle tensin. I ued to get panic attcks (m keybord isnt working) and I would eel vry foregn tomy body and shit and my heart would pound out of mychest and my muscles would spasm out of cntrol.I would just ly down somwere and my arms hands legs everwhere would twich and id feel like i was going to die. It would feel like forever But it wouldgo away. But I tin yor on t somethin with that about ngatve energy being located in muscls and organs and shit. If you have a metal illness, what are the chances that yo could become a bddha who has perfect mental health. Its all bad Karma. I just want happiess like the restof everyone and not to suffer.

Well, lets bring up another front. Maybe the most important of all of this. Sexual energy. This is everything. Everything in this society is telling you to get rid of sexual energy for a quick fix. But this is what leads everyone on a EXTERNAL search for energy. This is not necessary. The internal search and cultivation of energy is very important to happiness. Ive heard taoists say it can take 60 days to regain sexual energy after ejaculating. But once you can have sex without needing to orgasm, this becomes not difficult.

Losing sexual energy constantly results in a complete \"mind fuck\", sort of like losing your mind. Losing your energy *can* start a cycle, where that 5 second orgasmic release becomes the best thing in life, an addiction, and thats what you try to achieve.

Learning to not give into temptations(A trap in disguise) is the solution. Then you can start to re-cultivate your sexual energy.

In reality, sexual energy is supposed to radiate throughout the entire body, and not just the genital region. And orgasms arent supposed to result in ejaculation(losing all your sexual/psychic/spiritual energy), they are supposed to be felt through the entire body. But most people eat way too much bad food and store way to much negativity in their bodies, and have no full body orgasm, etc.

Just work through the energy blockages, if that is your intent

Hey if you have those panic attacks and you are alone, try to move with them(actually physically shake your body and move around and breathe). I\'ve had a few of those shaking attacks. They are very strange in nature. They are kind of scary, but Sometimes it feels kinda good once you realize you arent going to die.
Do you feel good when they are over? Better than before?

well, i wouldnt say I would feel beter rather I would be less distressed. The nice thing isthat I dont have themanymore.
And thatsexual energy stuff is ver interesting. You got any good books t recommend?

Yeah definitely, heres some really helpful books:
Amazon.com: Awaken Healing Energy Through Tao: Mantak Chia: Books
Amazon.com: Taoist Ways to Transform Stress into Vitality: The Inner Smile * Six Healing Sounds: Mantak Chia, Juan Li: Books
Amazon.com: Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy: Mantak Chia: Books
Amazon.com: Awaken Healing Light of the Tao: Mantak Chia: Books

These books are all by Mantak Chia. I\'m sure there are some great other teachers out there. But Chia is a master at teaching these practices.
The first two books can be read at the same time, and are pre-requisites for learning to cultivate sexual energy.

Then the last book is just a really nice encyclopedia of practices, all encoumpasing.

I actually have uploaded Many of his books in PDF, there are also Tons of Tantra books too. If you like them and they help you, you can go ahead and buy them like i did.

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anhedonia said:

if theres anyone on riu that uses mm to control mental illness let me know. The good and the bad.

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Hi there,

Thought I'd put up this little post to tell you about my own experiences of using marijuana for my mental illness. About nine years ago I went to see my doctor complaining of mood swings. I was swinging from deep depression to bouts of uncontrollable irritability and aggression, sometimes as often as several times a week. I was diagnosed with severe unipolar depression (big mistake) as a result of stress at work (I'd been bullied by my boss for some eight years). I was prescribed anti-depressants which seemed to make me feel better, or rather just plain out of it, for a few weeks and then the mood swings returned. So my doctor doubled the dose (another big mistake). That made me even more depressed, more irritable and aggressive and increased the frequency of my mood swings. But the doctor said that was impossible, so gave me an even stronger anti-depressant (yet another big ... OK you get the picture LOL).

To cut a long story short I was on just about every anti-depressant under the sun over the next two or three years, and reached the point where I was becoming increasingly suicidal and just plain dangerous to other people, mainly my wife and kids. I had reached the end. One night I was visiting my cousin who as usual was rolling a joint and I took a few puffs. I used to smoke years before when I was at university but hadn't for a long time. On this particular evening I was in one of my "irritable" phases and as soon as I smoked that joint I immediately felt normal for the first time in years. And it lasted for several weeks afterwards too (I didn't smoke any more during this time).

Anyway I started researching medical marijuana for mental illness online and discovered that a lot of people were using it to control the (hypo) manic episodes of Bipolar II Disorder, the symptoms of which, interestingly enough, exactly matched my own symptoms. So I went to my specialist and he agreed to take me off anti-depressants and let me try Depakote, which had been used to treat Bipolar II Disorder successfully in the US (I'm in the UK). Within a few days I felt much better, the mood swings virtually stopped and the doctors decided that I had Bipolar II Disorder all of a sudden LOL. BTW, my research revealed that the worst thing you can do for someone with Bipolar II Disorder is give them anti-depressants as, guess what, it usually increases the severity and frequency of their mood swings. A lesson to be learned there for my team of "doctors" - or at least I HOPE they learned their lesson.

However, I find that having been on Depakote for several years, my mood swings have returned to a certain extent, although the manic episodes are not quite as "violent" as they used to be. What I can say is that having smoked marijuana on and off in the meantime I find that there is simply nothing like it - not only does it lift the spirits during my periods of depression, it is absolutely superb at stopping my manic episodes before they even get a chance to fully develop. I recently brought this up with my new doctor (my old one retired) and he was more than happy that I use marijuana to control my symptoms. Of course he can't prescribe it for me, and suggested I grow it myself (that's why I'm here). He even took a note of our discussion (don't know if that was a wise move or not) and said if I had any trouble with the police to send them to him. It won't stop them giving me a hard time and stealing my plants, but at least they may be less inclined to "throw the book" at me if they are sympathetic enough to accept that I have a medical reason for growing it.

Anyway, sorry this post ended up so long. I hope it has been of some interest. I'd be glad to know what you think and whether anyone else has used marijuana successfully for similar conditions.

Keep well,
greenb.

Bipolar II Disorder, Paranoid Schizophrenic, Multiple Personallity Disorder..... All under control when sweet mary is running strong through my system. You see these medicine commercials nowadays.

I wouldn't fuck with the doctor prescribed death traps.

"Yeah take this once a day, oh by the way, It may cause:
uncontrollable vomiting,
shitting on yourself,
Painful sores up and down your body,
your penis to fall off,
all body hair falls off,
blindness,
deafness,
finger nails fall off,
heart stops beating,
Eye balls fall out,
Change of a persons sex is common with most clients."

What the fuck is with these pills they are putting on the market.

"Oh it's ok, by the time they die from it well already have our money!"

It's like they just throw this shit on the market and say fuck who uses it as long as they get paid.

Fuck the Govt. I'll stick with my all natural medication, Rather die from cancer than my dick falling off.

Thank for the response. I also take depakote for mood swings on top of a combination of other psychotropics. It took afew years for me as well to get on the right meds. I also had aggressive tendecys. And again like I sid, during those tmes marjuana was my enemy. Ever time I would smoke Iwould have awful panic episodes. This is why I trust my doctor. She did me right. Now Ive found something that Ididnt tink I would ever have any interest doing: grwng marijuana!

Wow I am very impressed by your post regarding mental disorders. I passed up this thread because I read metal.

Yes I have to agree with you about this. I am bi-polar and have been able to cut my meds down by half using cannabis to help. I do have a tendency to abuse it for sure.

I think the right strain make a huge difference as some weed just does not go well with me.

I have to agree with the natural approach to treating illness even mental ones. I feel so strongly about this that I got my degree and diploma in nutrition just to help myself better. It is was a holistic approach and although they don't suggest 'not' taking meds, they do offer alternative approaches, some of which you have mentioned like yoga and meditation.

Exercise is extremely important for relieving stress.

Eating the right diet makes a big difference also. They have found that most people with mental disorders have high amounts of mercury in their systems, have food sensitivities9like gluten or dairy) and /or chemical ones..one being ariticial food sweetners like aspartame.

There is also massage therapy, accupucture or pressure, water therapy, reiki....the list is long.

This was so refreshing to read this on a weed forum.

Thank you so much.

soulflyx2k said:

I would really advise against any of those Designer Drugs, for your own safty. I can only tell you to go see a Homeopathic Doctor, one who is more holistic.

Natural cures are extremely effective if you are open to them. If you dont believe they will work... why would they?

And my best recomendation of ALL is to start doing yoga and meditation... If you are into any metaphysics or anything of that nature, one starts to realize that all negative emotions are actually stored in the body, in muscles and in organs. You must start learning to truly relax. Most people unconsciously hold TONSSSSSSSS of bad energy/emotions/hate/suisidal thoughts in their body. Once you realize this you can start to make progress. Start to notice how every time you feel a negative emotion you tense a body part. That is how you store these negatie emotions. Once you can see it coming and consciously Relax, you will realize you have total control over yourself.

If you actually are interested in gaining some mental health, start to do some Yoga..etc when you smoke some MM

Once you get used to this stuff, it becomes routine to relax, and you do it automatically (just as it used to be routine to store those emotions). All thats needed is some Re-wireing or Re-programming of the mind pattern!

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OMG dude! I did not know whether you were serious or just kidding

its ironically humourous peace:

Trey57 said:

Bipolar II Disorder, Paranoid Schizophrenic, Multiple Personallity Disorder..... All under control when sweet mary is running strong through my system. You see these medicine commercials nowadays.

I wouldn't fuck with the doctor prescribed death traps.

"Yeah take this once a day, oh by the way, It may cause:
uncontrollable vomiting,
shitting on yourself,
Painful sores up and down your body,
your penis to fall off,
all body hair falls off,
blindness,
deafness,
finger nails fall off,
heart stops beating,
Eye balls fall out,
Change of a persons sex is common with most clients."

What the fuck is with these pills they are putting on the market.

"Oh it's ok, by the time they die from it well already have our money!"

It's like they just throw this shit on the market and say fuck who uses it as long as they get paid.

Fuck the Govt. I'll stick with my all natural medication, Rather die from cancer than my dick falling off.

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Anti-depressants are the number #1 prescribed drug in north america.
Sadly to say that one of the most common side effects of this drug :'suicidal thoughts or tendencies')

wtf is right

Lacy said:

OMG dude! I did not know whether you were serious or just kidding

its ironically humourous peace:

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It's kind of a joke but not really.
If you find yourself with time to watch TV, Keep an eye out for these new medication commercials. They always have some sweet voice telling about all the life threatening side effects that may occur!!
Jesus... No thanks.

(Actual quote but I forgot the name of the drug)
"In some cases, patients have had their hearts stopped beating...."

It's crazy. Next time you see a medication commercial on just wait till they stop telling you how great it is, then they have to list all the side effects.

I am one of the fortunate few here in Alaska that is prescribed medical marijuana. Since the Feds started threatening to get shitty, doctors up here are not quite so ready to prescribe. I have been legal for five years. My doctor is a bible thumping, born again, fundamentalist, but he says he would rather see me driving down the road with a joint than a beer. I believe there is less than 150 of us in the state of Alaska. I use marijuana to control my mental illness. It is much more effective and a lot less scary than some of the psych meds they have tried to introduce me to...Zyprexa, Seroquel, Geodon. Pot eases my manic-y behavior, helps my depression... I don't use Flexeral or Soma anymore, the pot is just as effective for the muscle spasms in my back and my peripheral neuropathy. I also have a hard time keeping weight on, so besides med mj, I am also prescribed Marinol (synthetic THC). I also find that growing my pot plants is also a very therapeutic outlet for me. Write back! bearsbuds

bearsbuds said:

I am one of the fortunate few here in Alaska that is prescribed medical marijuana. Since the Feds started threatening to get shitty, doctors up here are not quite so ready to prescribe. I have been legal for five years. My doctor is a bible thumping, born again, fundamentalist, but he says he would rather see me driving down the road with a joint than a beer. I believe there is less than 150 of us in the state of Alaska. I use marijuana to control my mental illness. It is much more effective and a lot less scary than some of the psych meds they have tried to introduce me to...Zyprexa, Seroquel, Geodon. Pot eases my manic-y behavior, helps my depression... I don't use Flexeral or Soma anymore, the pot is just as effective for the muscle spasms in my back and my peripheral neuropathy. I also have a hard time keeping weight on, so besides med mj, I am also prescribed Marinol (synthetic THC). I also find that growing my pot plants is also a very therapeutic outlet for me. Write back! bearsbuds

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Hi bearsbuds, glad you joined us. Lucky you in Alaska. I'm in the UK so no chance of getting legalised, I just have to break the law and hope for the best. In my earlier post I was saying I find marijuana to be great for helping me through my bipolar disorder, both the depressions and the manic episodes. In fact I just don't tend to get the latter at all, but I have to be "stoned" ALL of the time - LOL - something I am quite happy to put up with.

Do you mind if I ask if you use different strains for the various aspects of your condition? Or do you have a favourite that works for everything?

I find mm works on days that I might have frgotten to take my meds the night before. I usually feel like I havnt gotten any sleep and have a killer hangover until i have smething to smoke. My dctor explained to me that taking these meds everday is imparative to maintain healthy mood, no voices or paranoia etc. The thig is is tht they work. they were life changing. I dont know were i would be with out tem. Certainly not smoking pot.

Wow. Now that is one cool doctor. I actually like my gp and have had the same doctor now for 10 years but he will not sign the ok but will sign everything else.

bearsbuds said:

I am one of the fortunate few here in Alaska that is prescribed medical marijuana. Since the Feds started threatening to get shitty, doctors up here are not quite so ready to prescribe. I have been legal for five years. My doctor is a bible thumping, born again, fundamentalist, but he says he would rather see me driving down the road with a joint than a beer. I believe there is less than 150 of us in the state of Alaska. I use marijuana to control my mental illness. It is much more effective and a lot less scary than some of the psych meds they have tried to introduce me to...Zyprexa, Seroquel, Geodon. Pot eases my manic-y behavior, helps my depression... I don't use Flexeral or Soma anymore, Wow. same here. Especially the manicky stages. the pot is just as effective for the muscle spasms in my back I get that a LOT also. My neck and shoulders and lower back is hurtiung and my peripheral neuropathy. I also have a hard time keeping weight on, so besides med mj, I am also prescribed Marinol (synthetic THC). I also find that growing my pot plants is also a very therapeutic outlet for me. Write back! bearsbuds

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I agree also. I find it extremely therapeutic especially in the winter months with s.a.d.

greenbehemoth said:

Hi bearsbuds, glad you joined us. Lucky you in Alaska. I'm in the UK so no chance of getting legalised, I just have to break the law and hope for the best. In my earlier post I was saying I find marijuana to be great for helping me through my bipolar disorder, both the depressions and the manic episodes. In fact I just don't tend to get the latter at all, but I have to be "stoned" ALL of the time - LOL - something I am quite happy to put up with.I am often hypo manicand some weed makes me worse If I get depressed then the weed I was smoking no longer does the trick but makes me worse. Its a juggling act at times.

Do you mind if I ask if you use different strains for the various aspects of your condition? Or do you have a favourite that works for everything?

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I find mm works on days that I might have frgotten to take my meds the night before. I usually feel like I havnt gotten any sleep and have a killer hangover until i have smething to smoke. My dctor explained to me that taking these meds everday is imparative to maintain healthy mood, no voices or paranoia etc. The thig is is tht they work. they were life changing. I dont know were i would be with out tem. Certainly not smoking pot.

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I have never heard voices but I don't have the same thing you do and I have gone for years without medication but if something tragic happens I'm totally bent outta shape.
Not fun. I'm not on a high dosage of anything right now.