are my plants dying?

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ibongnaked

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hi,i noticed this morning that my plant was realy sloppy and was leaning down all the time
so i took some photo's to show you guys
i might have overwatered them
or my pots are too small?
if you don't think that is the issue then please let me know what i have to do
tips are always welcome! :D

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hope you guys are able to help

thanks alot!
 
RollupRick

RollupRick

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The clear bottles are a no no unless you wrap them, roots hate light. Get those clear bottle bottoms wrapped so the medium/roots are in the dark.

Also you're wasting a lot of grow space by only half filling the pots, ideally you want to fill them to about an inch (or less) from the top.

Leaning alone isn't a sign they're fooked, it could be the stem lacks sufficient strength or the roots haven't dug deep enough to support it. The stem gets stronger by a gentle breeze, indoors we use oscillating fans etc to simulate natural breeze resistance which builds the stem strength up.
 
spitsbuds

spitsbuds

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what he/she said above and they are over stretched this could be why there falling over. what light u got the under and what distance . when u re-pot just make sure u berried half the stem under youre soil
 
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ibongnaked

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RollupRick said:
The clear bottles are a no no unless you wrap them, roots hate light. Get those clear bottle bottoms wrapped so the medium/roots are in the dark.

Also you're wasting a lot of grow space by only half filling the pots, ideally you want to fill them to about an inch (or less) from the top.

Leaning alone isn't a sign they're fooked, it could be the stem lacks sufficient strength or the roots haven't dug deep enough to support it. The stem gets stronger by a gentle breeze, indoors we use oscillating fans etc to simulate natural breeze resistance which builds the stem strength up.
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oke, i just wrapped them with aluminium foil
and can i trow some more soil on top of the old soil
and something you should know is that i move them every morning from 1 window to another because there is sun there in the morning
and at night should i put them inside or outside because im afraid they will die because someone said below 21°c the plants will die
thanks alot for the help and info btw :)

excuse my english
 
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ibongnaked

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spitsbuds said:
what he/she said above and they are over stretched this could be why there falling over. what light u got the under and what distance . when u re-pot just make sure u berried half the stem under youre soil
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can i put more soild on top of the old soil?
 
chrishydro

chrishydro

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This has happened to me before, simple fix, first go get some good soil and some larger pots. Get Happy Frog if you can and get good size pots like over five gallon. Now prepare your pots with your soil and transplant those puppies in the new pots. Dont rip them out, dry them, did a hole that the cut with fit in pop the whole thing out and just rest it in the new pots. Now here is the important part. Burry the thing amost to the leaves, maybe leave two inches of stem only. Since you dont have a light system an are using the sun the bigger pot will make the plant focus on root growth instead of stalk growth, once the roots streach out in the new pot the stalk will be large enough to handle the strech better.

Never use clear cups the guy up top is correct.
 
chrishydro

chrishydro

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Also you dont pot very well, fill the pot with soil leave maybe an inch that is it. By placeing them so low in the pot you are begging them to streach and go find light becasue they are in a tunnel so to say and have to strech to get to the light at the end of the tunnell.
 
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ibongnaked

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chrishydro said:
This has happened to me before, simple fix, first go get some good soil and some larger pots. Get Happy Frog if you can and get good size pots like over five gallon. Now prepare your pots with your soil and transplant those puppies in the new pots. Dont rip them out, dry them, did a hole that the cut with fit in pop the whole thing out and just rest it in the new pots. Now here is the important part. Burry the thing amost to the leaves, maybe leave two inches of stem only. Since you dont have a light system an are using the sun the bigger pot will make the plant focus on root growth instead of stalk growth, once the roots streach out in the new pot the stalk will be large enough to handle the strech better.

Never use clear cups the guy up top is correct.
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alright thanks alot for the help
how fast should i do this because today i realy don't have time to search for pots
if its urgent maybe i can find something fast
 
Dice Clay

Dice Clay

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ibongnaked said:
oke, i just wrapped them with aluminium foil
and can i trow some more soil on top of the old soil
and something you should know is that i move them every morning from 1 window to another because there is sun there in the morning
and at night should i put them inside or outside because im afraid they will die because someone said below 21°c the plants will die
thanks alot for the help and info btw :)

excuse my english
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Your english is fine.. what country are you from?
 
Dice Clay

Dice Clay

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ibongnaked said:
alright thanks alot for the help
how fast should i do this because today i realy don't have time to search for pots
if its urgent maybe i can find something fast
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And as the other posters said.... bury the stems as much as possible with new earth. Those plants do not have the root structure to survive a transplant. If you transplant those seedlings they will die! Try to put them 2cm from a light source when they are not in a window and that will help thicken them. They are literally dying for more light. Please do not transplant!!!
 
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ibongnaked

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Dice Clay said:
And as the other posters said.... bury the stems as much as possible with new earth. Those plants do not have the root structure to survive a transplant. If you transplant those seedlings they will die! Try to put them 2cm from a light source when they are not in a window and that will help thicken them. They are literally dying for more light. Please do not transplant!!!
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so i can put new soil over the old one? because alot of people are telling me not to :s
 
Dice Clay

Dice Clay

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ibongnaked said:
so i can put new soil over the old one? because alot of people are telling me not to :s
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That is the ONLY thing you can do in this situation. Roots will form from the buried stem, and reducing the height of the plant will strengthen it up. Trust me ;)
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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ibongnaked said:
hi,i noticed this morning that my plant was realy sloppy and was leaning down all the time
so i took some photo's to show you guys
i might have overwatered them
or my pots are too small?
if you don't think that is the issue then please let me know what i have to do
tips are always welcome! :D

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hope you guys are able to help

thanks alot!
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They are stretched and floppy because they need LIGHT! They are bending toward the light in your pics! Plus your containers and the rest everybody has pointed out.
 
chrishydro

chrishydro

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You can and need to transplant them but do it the way I told you and they will be fine, dry them out so you can lift the entire thing dirt and all out of it like taking an ice cube out of a ice tray than just lower her in the new pot with the hole already dug. If you do it like this you will have no stress to plant at all.
 
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ibongnaked

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chrishydro said:
You can and need to transplant them but do it the way I told you and they will be fine, dry them out so you can lift the entire thing dirt and all out of it like taking an ice cube out of a ice tray than just lower her in the new pot with the hole already dug. If you do it like this you will have no stress to plant at all.
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need to find bigger pots first
and the soil is still wet from this morning i gave them some water
ill have to wait till it dry's out till then ill just put some more soil on top of the old one
thank you for the help :)
 
Dice Clay

Dice Clay

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chrishydro said:
You can and need to transplant them but do it the way I told you and they will be fine, dry them out so you can lift the entire thing dirt and all out of it like taking an ice cube out of a ice tray than just lower her in the new pot with the hole already dug. If you do it like this you will have no stress to plant at all.
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I do not like to pick fights or arguments, but what root structure are you suggesting he transplants? You are giving him advice on how to transplant a pot bound plant that has more than its cotyledons and 1st leaves. There are maybe a couple of thin whisps of roots on these SEEDLINGS.. and you really think he can turn almost 1/2 gallon of unrooted soil upside down and transplant what? what root mass ? I am sorry but this really is horrible advice, especially coming from someone who is such a prolific poster.
 
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tk86high

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ibongnaked said:
oke, i just wrapped them with aluminium foil
because im afraid they will die because someone said below 21°c the plants will die
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I hope u r not taking growing advise from this person cos thats just WRONG information , rule of thumb is below 10C if outside they will start to go into shock (like humans get cold and shake), but can recover during the day , the colder it is the longer it will take to grow . and the less THC yield u will get , Gosh why do people talk about stuff they have no understanding on .
 
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