are you good or evil?

just watched this program about our innate morality and whether evil is nature/ nurture or both
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it discusses a few things from our morality as babies, what happens when you impose alien moral structures on serving troops, the much higher level of psychopaths within big business and the point where people become what we see as "evil"

thought some people here might find it of interest

didn't watch the vid but i doubt either are real, its just a position and perception of a person. they are just titles.

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman said:

didn't watch the vid but i doubt either are real, its just a position and perception of a person. they are just titles.

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its a good vid if you get the time you should watch it, talks about real studies done on dna, brain activity and enviroment

its little pieces of the puzzle of what makes us human

lol i saw this in my psych course this past semester(fall) didnt notice the BBC at first.

cool lol so you've watched it what did you think about it? (was it still labeled bbc over there?)

Loved it, went from 4 vids to 8 to 9... BBC is interesting television +REP

There is no good or evil, only a morality clause built into the human condition. We are taught to hate since birth and good only comes when hate is recognized as a morality struggle. Evil funny enough, spelled backwards is live. When I smoke pot, I am considered bad, or evil by some, yet free-spirited and open to others. This explains precisely the contradiction in the bible about "thou shalt not kill... etc etc etc. However, it's okay to kill in the name of war or a struggle, yet evil if you kill to feed your family. Basically, good and evil don't exist.

The Chemist Brothers said:

Loved it, went from 4 vids to 8 to 9... BBC is interesting television +REP

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glad you liked it the bbc has got a lot of very good quality documentaries i'll put up some more tomorrow

Farfenugen said:

There is no good or evil, only a morality clause built into the human condition. We are taught to hate since birth and good only comes when hate is recognized as a morality struggle. Evil funny enough, spelled backwards is live. When I smoke pot, I am considered bad, or evil by some, yet free-spirited and open to others. This explains precisely the contradiction in the bible about "thou shalt not kill... etc etc etc. However, it's okay to kill in the name of war or a struggle, yet evil if you kill to feed your family. Basically, good and evil don't exist.

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good to see you didnt watch any of them before you posted...

I have, saw this one few times before.

i think it all depends one what ones definition of good and evil is. if good is defined as things that we do that do not promote pain/suffering/death, and evil as what does promote those things... then it is a simple question of perspective. for one can think what is evil is good, and what is good is evil depending on the individual. i think its a question of perspectives.

Farfenugen said:

There is no good or evil, only a morality clause built into the human condition. We are taught to hate since birth and good only comes when hate is recognized as a morality struggle. Evil funny enough, spelled backwards is live. When I smoke pot, I am considered bad, or evil by some, yet free-spirited and open to others. This explains precisely the contradiction in the bible about "thou shalt not kill... etc etc etc. However, it's okay to kill in the name of war or a struggle, yet evil if you kill to feed your family. Basically, good and evil don't exist.

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Imo we are taught the basics even before birth. For humans and their prehuman ancestors, a critical survival skill was the near-instant ability to classify "interesting new datum" into one of two categories: "threat" and "opportunity". We've been selected for a capacity for snap binary judgment ... the skilled ones ate more and were eaten less. From there, being left with a predisposition to pigeonhole everything along binary lines, good/bad, is a near-irresistible biological legacy. Imo. cn

^ sounds computationally linguistic

I'm always turning men on. cn

cannabineer said:

I'm always turning men on. cn

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Yes, but do you finish what you start...

Great video, GW. I've been interested in 'neuroethics' since a buddy gave me a book by John Mikhail years ago. I've always thought that this sense of morality must be somewhat inborn, or there probably wouldn't be 7 billion people on the planet. It's nice to see scientists devising these clever experiments to demonstrate this. I've always liked a certain definition of morality by a new age philosophy I used to follow that was helpful in pulling me out of religion and magical thinking: "Whatever is consciously done to help fill human biological needs is good and moral. Whatever is consciously done to harm or prevent the filling of human biological needs is bad and immoral." Seems simplistic on the surface, but the more you contemplate it, the more intricate it gets...

I am decidedly benevolent.

tyler.durden said:

Yes, but do you finish what you start...

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That's a bit of a reach ... cn

cannabineer said:

That's a bit of a reach ... cn

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...through cyber optics