auto Pyrethrum System :idea:

so im having a bit of a bug problem at the moment and i was thinking would these auto Pyrethrum System work in my room ???

http://www.raidautomatic.co.nz/indoors.html

What do ya all think good idea


Indoor Range
Designed for insect control in your family home.

Naturally Effective Protection
Contains natural pyrethrins, nature’s own protection against insects, extracted from chrysanthemum daises. Even small amounts of pyrethrin are enough to kill most common insects.

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• Formulated with natural pyrethrins
Lasts up to 7.5 weeks or 10,800 bursts
Continuous protection
Effortless: Set and forget
Dispenser releases spray every 7 minutes
DIY pack releases every 5 or 7 minutes and
has low can warning light
Ideal for use in homes offices, shops and
other indoor areas.

get a pyrethin bomb, Dr. Doom sells a good one. Raid shouldn't be sprayed anywhere near the plants

its not fly spray raid is just the brand name

The can looks directional so I don't know if it will get all the bugs. I'd go with the suggestion to start with a bomb first as they get everywhere. The spray looks like it may be good for picking off anything that's left after the bomb goes off.
Good luck.

The Raid® unique automatic dispenser uses advanced MicroMist™ technology which creates a mist of incredibly fine micro particles to eliminate insects. Because it’s a mist which stays in the air longer, not a spray, it’s more easily spread throughout your whole room.
One Raid® Automatic Insect Control System will serve a whole room. Just choose a central location where air is likely to circulate and close to an area where insects are most prevalent.

what im getting at is that if you had one of these in your room you wouldn't have a insect problem ever and because it natural pyrethrins it want harm my girls right ????

It says it contains pyretheum rather than saying it IS pyretheum. It would be worth finding out what percent it actually contains and what other stuff may be in it that could cause your plants a problem.
Also it will not mist under pots or on the underneath of leaves, both of which are major hiding places for bugs.
I'm sure it will help but I don't think it will eliminate the problem on its own.

Raid® Automatic Insect Control System Natural Refills
9g/kg PYRETHRINS
45 g/kg PIPERONYL BUTOXIDE

Raid® Automatic Insect Control System Indoor/Outdoor Refill
4.4 g/kg ALLETHRIN 20:80,
3.5 g/kg TETRAMETHRIN,
1.1 g/kg PYRETHRINS,
45 g/kg PIPERONYL BUTOXIDE

The Natural Refills sound like the way to go

Piperonyl butoxide (PBO) is a pesticide synergist. It does not, by itself have pesticidal properties. However, when added to insecticide mixtures, typically pyrethrin, pyrethroid, and carbamate insecticides, their potency is increased considerablyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperonyl_butoxide#cite_note-0
Piperonyl butoxide is a potent cytochrome P450 inhibitor. This family of enzymes act as the principal detoxification pathway for many pesticides. Inhibiting the detoxification pathway allows higher unmetabolised systemic concentrations of the active insecticide to remain within the target animal for a longer period.
Piperonyl butoxide is moderately stable, and is a semisynthetic derivative of safrole.
It is debatable whether the substance is oncogenic, mutagenic, or teratogenic in humans. Its acute oral and dermal toxicity in mammals is low, however it is toxic to fish and potentiates rotenone.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperonyl_butoxide#cite_note-1

that stuff (PBO) will mutate your mothers, i have done studies on it when using my bio altered plants in university, we had a bug problem and used that "natural" stuff and it mutated the leafs

There are those auto sprayers used in bathrooms for air fresheners.
I've seen them used with pyth/bug sprays for rooms. Gives a shot every 45 minutes or something like that.

Check staples or janitorial supply shops.

Enhancing a 20% solution of pyretheum with PBO will not be as effective as a 100% solution. It states that it's a control rather than an eradicator and it is also a general pest solution rather than aiming at a specific pest.
It's up to you to decide if the reduced yields are worth the extra cost, but remember that your growroom provides the perfect food and environment for them to just eat, sleep and reproduce, so you will have a fight on your hands.
Personally I think you should base your strategies on eradication and not coexistence. It will save you money in the long run.

thanks for all the useful reply's people dont like the sound of mutated plants

I would consider getting some beneficial bugs like lady bugs and add to your grow room. They eat off most insects. There are sveral other types of beneficial bugs too that I am not very well informed on, just depends on what kind of bugs you have and your grow area size. Check out http://www.wormsway.com/catalog.asp?cat=pestb and see what fits your needs. Hope this helps.

an automatic spraying that sprayed a little pyrethrem every hour would not work and probably make the mites immune too it by letting them get used to it. i say hit them hard with pyrethrum 2 days apart from each other and then use like neem plus insecticidal soap at a low dosage for like another day or 2 and then use the pyrethrum like 5 days later again. thats a pretty good way to stop their life cycle. damn near to get rid of once you have the little suckers though...

whats the best predatory insect for spider mites?, lady bugs?

cant you get predatory mites to kill spider mites?

i dont know, i usually just use lady bugs i find around the house from being hibernating from winter. Im not sure if lady bugs eat spider mites, spider mites ae the worst bugs ever, an kill severl plants in matter of hours.

I would do as gangababy say's and use the doctor doom! I use this product myself and it work's great, I had A masive infestation from the guy I got mine from. Go get the doctor doom and do it three times like monday night, wed night and friday night! It has to be used with no light's and u need to shut down all your fans and venting for three hours. It work's and then follow with general maint ( I use A product called SMC) it is A folliar spray after I have done the 3 bomb session's! Get on them mites fast they do breed fast and will take over.... For now you can get A bucket of ice water and go give them A bath (wipe them down real good)! Clean your room also. I hope any of this work's for you, I don't have anymore issues now that I have done eveything I told you. Good luck and everyone will offer you some good advice on this forum. Just don't use RAID it will burn your girl's.

i have done that for like 4 years straight, but they keep coming back lol

oh ya they would for me if I let them! I am alway's using the SMC and it work's for me.