AZCS Bryan
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Hey guys, just wanted to let RIU know that AZCS has finally opened doors as a state licensed dispensary.
AZCS (Arizona Cannabis Society) is now open.
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Hey guys, just wanted to let RIU know that AZCS has finally opened doors as a state licensed dispensary.AvonBarksdale
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Well I guess that is better than the free cookie Harvest of Tempe offers on a $150 purchase.
BluJayz
Well-Known Member
$700 every two weeks for "top shelf" legal maximum?
That's pretty normal in the area... I would not consider that "keeping the prices down".
HB DC
Active Member
These prices don't beat growing your own!! This community is a growing community! Them prices are far from the norm to a grower!
Where are these lobbyist coming from?
I know Mr. BluJay works with elements in North PHX and is obviously pushing patients into this false believe of "fair prices"! They don't exists folks!
If I were to compare AZCS to ELEMENTS. AZCS would win by a long haul! But the lesser of the 2 evils does not make it better! IMO
AZCS has expressed their support of getting rid of the 25 mile clause (Hayes Vs. AZ) where Elements does not care.
(I met with the old man(on the breathing machine) who invested in your collective over a year and half ago) and he doesn't care about the 25 mile clause. Your collective is a "Non-Cultivating" Collective and the 25 mile rule will not effect your operations. Has this changed?
PS
From this day forth we are calling out ALL shenanigans. The 25 Mile Rule needs to go away!
AvonBarksdale
Active Member
As far as I understand, Bill Hayes and AZCS have gone their separate ways.
Don't know if AZCS has shown support against the 25 mile rule since then.
Don't know if AZCS has shown support against the 25 mile rule since then.
Lucius Vorenus
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Oh shutup you fuckin wanker. Those prices are beyond fair and those guys are good dudes. Why don't you go get a job and quit fucking off on the internet all damn day.
MANY MANY Dispensaries that are open are just as fair if not WAY more fair than guys like you have been for the past 2yrs. And jokes on you too, because once all these Dispensaries get their own cultivations going the wholesale market is going to EXPLODE. The price of pounds being traded between Dispensaries will be negligible. Literally NOTHING. The price to patients will be $150-200z within a year.
Mark my words.
HB DC
Active Member
$150-200z is still not fair to a patient that can grow their own medicine for a fraction of that cost. You should know this!
I have nothing against AZCS if you read my posts ^^^^ instead of filling the space with non sense!
Do you have a problem with me wanting to growing my little 12 plants for my personal use? Because that is what I am fighting for...
Did you notice every other word you have used was dispensary? Dude seriously! Do you see me saying - dispensaries need to be closed down? NO! They have their place - not everyone can grow their own medicine! But to the ones who want to partake in cultivation shall not be prohibited from doing so because of their location from a dispensary! This is a measure of market control not safety as the Director proclaims as the reason for the 25 mile clause.
I have nothing against AZCS if you read my posts ^^^^ instead of filling the space with non sense!
Do you have a problem with me wanting to growing my little 12 plants for my personal use? Because that is what I am fighting for...
Did you notice every other word you have used was dispensary? Dude seriously! Do you see me saying - dispensaries need to be closed down? NO! They have their place - not everyone can grow their own medicine! But to the ones who want to partake in cultivation shall not be prohibited from doing so because of their location from a dispensary! This is a measure of market control not safety as the Director proclaims as the reason for the 25 mile clause.
Lucius Vorenus
Well-Known Member
They don't want patients cultivating their own medicine because that creates things like the Farmers Markets and Vapor Lounges which pop up in every shady part of town you can think of and some NICE ones. This also allows for a big DONATION market which has run amuck and has caused numerous busts and bullshit off of Craigslist etc.
The 25 mile rule is going nowhere because it is there for a reason. Fight for decriminalization!
thecoolman
New Member
Lucius you fucking asshole stupid should hurt.... idiot.
HBDC thanks for the heads up ...almost sent a couple patients bluejays way...sure wouldn't consider it now. elements collective ...fucking sad he is trolling these parts
Hÿdra
Active Member
I know you know thats a biased "Fox Newish" statement. Nothing wrong with farmers markets, or donations market etc. Only thing wrong with them is that they directly effect the bottom line of dispensaries. which effects the bottom line of the state government.
I know you have ties with dispensaries so what you say will effectively be a party line dispensary answer. But deep down inside you cant possibly think that dispensaries are better for the common man. You're a dink sometimes but i refise to believe that you really think disensaries are better for patients.
The best option is to HAVE OPTIONS. The option to grow ONLY strains that works for you, or that you can afford. not to have your options taken from you...thats not the best way EVER>
BluJayz
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It's quite interesting how you continue to conjure up this illusions of grandeur of who I am and what I do. (even though you don't know me) Then push this image out over RIU.
My post was not rude, I was simply commenting on it not being "that cheap". I'm not quite sure where you're rage came from, are you jealous?
I don't disagree that it's cheaper to grow, I encourage everyone to grow and discourage the 25 mile rule. As well as I don't sell/trade/donate any Cannabis to clubs or dispensary. I have relationships with some caregiver collectives; yes and that works as a benefit to my patients.
I'm not sure what your issue is with "Elements north phoenix" but don't include me in it. You've complained about it several times already and no one has made it the topic of conversation.
Now if you don't mind I'll return to my shenanigans.
As for you; sounds like your the type that believes that bat-boy from the national enquirer really exists.
I'm glad I did not do business with you either. I need people who can take 1+1 and make 2, not just believe the guy that tells you it's 5.
1337hacker
Active Member
I think you are looking for the word "amok"
The mpp was a bunch of rich folks who shaped the laws to work in their favor. We all deserve our day in court!
The mpp was a bunch of rich folks who shaped the laws to work in their favor. We all deserve our day in court!
until prices get down to $2-$3 per gram, I cry profiteering.$10-$20/gm is a damn sight better than the $30 we are seeing here, but even at the "discount price" of $10/gm, that still translates to [as earlier mentioned] $280/oz and I can't even think of that. I need around 2oz/month, How much can you budget bleed?
we have no A/C or even a swamp box, burn wood exclusively [which I cut] for heat----no space heaters and if the lake had water, we would be eating a lot of fish. We are putting 2 kids thru college.....
and no compassion from the state. We are not covered under ACCESS
...but then, I still maintain the system was designed to fail. Then the state can say, "There! You had mmj and it didn't work. Now it's gone".
remember...this is just my ill informed opinion.
we have no A/C or even a swamp box, burn wood exclusively [which I cut] for heat----no space heaters and if the lake had water, we would be eating a lot of fish. We are putting 2 kids thru college.....
and no compassion from the state. We are not covered under ACCESS
...but then, I still maintain the system was designed to fail. Then the state can say, "There! You had mmj and it didn't work. Now it's gone".
remember...this is just my ill informed opinion.
fatboyOGOF
Well-Known Member
i keep wanting to try some of the dispensary pot to see what they have, but whenever i see the prices, i just laugh.
Chronicseeker
New Member
Rules and med costs aside, the vast majority of quality in Az is absolutely disgraceful. Everyone thinks they have the best but the truth is many have never even seen high grade cannabis. Big time breeders have been covertly popping in and out of this state looking for a genetic outlet/dispensary outlet only to come back to their home base and laugh at how bad the meds are, how big of assholes people are and the lack of cannabis knowledge that is present in the winner circle. (Not all of course!)
The people being hired to run facilities have had their dick in the dirt only as long as they have been "authorized to cultivate" and have probably only grown in one medium yet proceed to talk shit on other methods of growing to boost their image. Props to them for being able to land a position but tell that to any successful dispensary operating in another state and await the jaw drop. "We'll the must have been trained by someone experience", I guess if you call the forums a teaching institution lol.
Dispensaries want to charge 260 a half for meds grown by someone that has no more experience than the patient coming into the dispensary who has just lost their authorization. On the same token, those growers are working for very little money out of necessity, totally understandable, but then why are prices so high? Because the next dispensaries leafly menu says so or harvest are not meeting expectations due to lack of experience? It is also very intriguing how a certain outfit won two CHAA's has two storefronts up and running that sell the same meds but the price is fifty more dollars a half at one location vs the other.?.?.
The more expensive location is closer to the grow facility so transporting cannot cause the price flux.
AZ will make it over the hurdle but it might not happen before legalization wether that be 2014-16 and believe it or not many of the operating outfits are starting to realize that the "green rush" might take more than just putting whatever herb on the shelves. The individuals who really made money here were the consultant groups, lawyers etc who were apart of the programs infancy and worked with the winners and hopefuls because the Department made it difficult. Now those clients have to recoup that money.
If you are truly passionate about growing, support the 25 fight, push for legalization or head out of AZ for the time being and if you desire, return when things are cleared up. Get a taste of the neighboring states programs and expand your knowledge as best you can. It's an awesome sight seeing caregivers, dispensaries and patients working together to produce the best medicine possible..
The people being hired to run facilities have had their dick in the dirt only as long as they have been "authorized to cultivate" and have probably only grown in one medium yet proceed to talk shit on other methods of growing to boost their image. Props to them for being able to land a position but tell that to any successful dispensary operating in another state and await the jaw drop. "We'll the must have been trained by someone experience", I guess if you call the forums a teaching institution lol.
Dispensaries want to charge 260 a half for meds grown by someone that has no more experience than the patient coming into the dispensary who has just lost their authorization. On the same token, those growers are working for very little money out of necessity, totally understandable, but then why are prices so high? Because the next dispensaries leafly menu says so or harvest are not meeting expectations due to lack of experience? It is also very intriguing how a certain outfit won two CHAA's has two storefronts up and running that sell the same meds but the price is fifty more dollars a half at one location vs the other.?.?.
The more expensive location is closer to the grow facility so transporting cannot cause the price flux.
AZ will make it over the hurdle but it might not happen before legalization wether that be 2014-16 and believe it or not many of the operating outfits are starting to realize that the "green rush" might take more than just putting whatever herb on the shelves. The individuals who really made money here were the consultant groups, lawyers etc who were apart of the programs infancy and worked with the winners and hopefuls because the Department made it difficult. Now those clients have to recoup that money.
If you are truly passionate about growing, support the 25 fight, push for legalization or head out of AZ for the time being and if you desire, return when things are cleared up. Get a taste of the neighboring states programs and expand your knowledge as best you can. It's an awesome sight seeing caregivers, dispensaries and patients working together to produce the best medicine possible..
AZCS Bryan
Active Member
This - ^^ I can fully stand behind.Hÿdra;9343521 said:
We are just another option that is available to patients.
Chronicseeker
New Member
Question, I know a patient who got a pack of sun sim seeds from you guys called east coast sun sour....
Needless to say the lineage was difficult to trace so dude went to the breeder over at the farm to ask for clarification.
Breeder came back and said that he never made a cross under that title but did send some tester beans to one collective in AZ...
AZCS Bryan, can you clear this up as I was told you were at the facility when these beans were obtained?.?.
Needless to say the lineage was difficult to trace so dude went to the breeder over at the farm to ask for clarification.
Breeder came back and said that he never made a cross under that title but did send some tester beans to one collective in AZ...
AZCS Bryan, can you clear this up as I was told you were at the facility when these beans were obtained?.?.