Bananas/hermaphrodite late in flower. How many seeds should I expect?

beepy1

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I am at day 70 of flowering for a 9 week strain, and I think the trichomes are taking longer than expected to ripen due to cold weather for the last 6 weeks. I noticed a couple buds that have hermied and produced stamens ("bananas"). I have only been able to find two bananas, and they are green in color. I would estimate that 50-80% of the trichomes on my 4 plants are cloudy, and less than 1% are amber. I would like to know an estimate for how many seeds are likely to occur from the two bananas in my 4x4ft tent with 4 plants. I would also like to know how long it takes for a seed to form if the plants are pollinated late into flower. If I let the most immature flowers ripen for another week, will I end up having seeds in my buds? I am not that concerned if I only get a few seeds in the 5-8 ounces of bud I expect to harvest but I would like to have an idea of what to expect. Should I still wait for the 30% amber trichomes that I am hoping for?
 

Renfro

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I am at day 70 of flowering for a 9 week strain, and I think the trichomes are taking longer than expected to ripen due to cold weather for the last 6 weeks. I noticed a couple buds that have hermied and produced stamens ("bananas"). I have only been able to find two bananas, and they are green in color. I would estimate that 50-80% of the trichomes on my 4 plants are cloudy, and less than 1% are amber. I would like to know an estimate for how many seeds are likely to occur from the two bananas in my 4x4ft tent with 4 plants. I would also like to know how long it takes for a seed to form if the plants are pollinated late into flower. If I let the most immature flowers ripen for another week, will I end up having seeds in my buds? I am not that concerned if I only get a few seeds in the 5-8 ounces of bud I expect to harvest but I would like to have an idea of what to expect. Should I still wait for the 30% amber trichomes that I am hoping for?
Can you post a pic of the bananas, my girlfriend has never seen one and I wanna show her what to watch out for.

If it's just a few you can pick them off with tweezers. If the pollen pops you can just harvest right then as seeds won't have time to develop.
 

beepy1

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Can you post a pic of the bananas, my girlfriend has never seen one and I wanna show her what to watch out for.

If it's just a few you can pick them off with tweezers. If the pollen pops you can just harvest right then as seeds won't have time to develop.
I couldn't get a picture of it on the plant since it blends in with the plant so much, but here it is on someone's hand. I found them near some white stigmas, and 80% of the stigmas are brown.

I have heard that they don't need to pop to release pollen, since it is the exposed stamen that is normally inside a male pollen sac on a male plant. Do you have any idea how long it takes for a seed to develop? If we knew that a bract was pollinated today, in one week would there be a noticeable seed? I mean, would it pop if smoked, or would it noticeably change the flavor or other properties or the bud? I would like to keep the plants ripening for maybe 3-10 days, but I'm not sure what to expect in terms of seed development or seed count.
 

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Renfro

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Yeah I wouldn't let the pollen sit for a week as you would likely get tiny white seedlets that won't taste nice. I am not sure about the banana releasing pollen before it opens. If it were me, by what you've told me, I would let them go longer, watch them close and pluck bananas, if I saw ANY sign of pollen release harvest them in a day or two. If there are other plants to be effected that may change me to saying just chop it now. Those bananas can open fast and drop a lot of pollen, if you have other plants that have to go longer id error on the side of caution. Easy to miss a banana depending on how big your plant is.
 

beepy1

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Yeah I wouldn't let the pollen sit for a week as you would likely get tiny white seedlets that won't taste nice. I am not sure about the banana releasing pollen before it opens. If it were me, by what you've told me, I would let them go longer, watch them close and pluck bananas, if I saw ANY sign of pollen release harvest them in a day or two. If there are other plants to be effected that may change me to saying just chop it now. Those bananas can open fast and drop a lot of pollen, if you have other plants that have to go longer id error on the side of caution. Easy to miss a banana depending on how big your plant is.
Is there any visual way to tell if there is a seed forming somewhere? In my research online I have not been able to see a difference between a mature non-pollinated bract and a pollinated bract.
 
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