Being Gay And Being High

i don't know at times i feel much more confident in myself if i haven't smoked.

i feel like weed has always been a way to escape from being different but i didn't understand that it was because i was gay until a year ago.

for a few months i even became an alcoholic this last year. i just don't understand or really know what to do anymore...

...is it time to stop smoking entirely and stop all substances for a while or something? my head hurts from thinking so much but when i am not high or drinking i feel like i need to be 'macho' all the time to solidify my identity...

...and what if my christian parents are right and all this weed has warped my brain and made me queer
 

nanskies

Active Member
i understand your having a hard time right now and your right you might need to sober up and think about yourself and shit like that but the drinking and smoking does not make you do shit tha aint you...thats like those dumb high school girls claiming she was so drunk n high thas why she sucked her bestfriends boyfriend up but knowin the whole time this bitch wanted him...jus take some you time bro
 

ganji11

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LMFAO. I have never in my life got high and said to myself 'Man I think I like dick'. You're just gay brother.
 

OregonMeds

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Smoking weed calms you down enough to be you, without it you are on edge and defensive. It's low self esteem because you are being mentally abused to think you are crap. Move away and get as many people around who that are supportive of your lifestyle as possible.
 

Woodstock.Hippie

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"what if my christian parents are right and all this weed has warped my brain and made me queer"

You are either trolling for something or perhaps need to "Move away and get as many people around who that are supportive of your lifestyle as possible."
 
"what if my christian parents are right and all this weed has warped my brain and made me queer"

You are either trolling for something or perhaps need to "Move away and get as many people around who that are supportive of your lifestyle as possible."
I guess I was just really depressed last night. I know that weed can't change your sexual orientation, but how can I explain this to my crazy-Christian parents? They have given up on me. I am a legal medicinal patient in my state because I have a twisted back, but they still think weed is a 'devil drug' and it sure doesn't help that they just laugh at my orientation.

Edit: Also, I am in college and my parents are supporting me. I still have 1 year left, so as much as I'd love to escape or move out, I'm not sure that it's a reasonable option...
 

OregonMeds

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OK well do you have the social structure at school of supportive friends etc? Going to school and putting up with it for a while is the wise choice but don't let it cost you more than it has too mentally. You shouldn't be giving anything they say or think credit. In many ways you should just consider them flawed humans like everyone else, but these particular ones are a bit more stone aged thinking.

It's been completely ingrained in their heads since birth, you can think of it the same as brainwashing because it is and you can't talk them out of it or reason them out of it or quite expect from them what you should have gotten acceptance wise. Such is life, it isn't fair, it isn't directed by god etc, there is no plan, and no right or wrong way to live.

Check out the athiest thread here, join in the laughs and at the same time it will help you see the bullshit even more clearly. Education on all the things you can in the background of human nature, psychiatry, world history, education period will help you see the bullshit. The more you learn the stronger you will be.

Shit I'm stoned and rambling. It'll work out my friend, but it will work out 100 times faster if you put effort into strengthening your resolve through education (in areas that will help support your understanding of all this, not just general education or your major) and proper friends as much as possible.

Oh and science science science in biology especially but really all fields if you actually get deep enough you find the truth about religion that way.
 

Woodstock.Hippie

New Member
It's easy for me to say, but stand up straight dude, be proud of whatever it is you're best at.
If you love your parents, hug them when they are calling you queer.
If that doesn't work, lick 'em.

That always does.
 

morgentaler

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It's easy for me to say, but stand up straight dude, be proud of whatever it is you're best at.
If you love your parents, hug them when they are calling you queer.
If that doesn't work, lick 'em.

That always does.
A topic that makes you speak in plain statements. Neat! Funny too :)

As for the OP, if your parents don't accept you, then while they may have gotten you to this point in life they don't have to be a part of it once you're making your own life for yourself.

Let them know if they change their minds they're welcome back into you life, but that as long as they are going to judge you they are not.
 

ruderalis88

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I guess I was just really depressed last night. I know that weed can't change your sexual orientation, but how can I explain this to my crazy-Christian parents? They have given up on me. I am a legal medicinal patient in my state because I have a twisted back, but they still think weed is a 'devil drug' and it sure doesn't help that they just laugh at my orientation.

Edit: Also, I am in college and my parents are supporting me. I still have 1 year left, so as much as I'd love to escape or move out, I'm not sure that it's a reasonable option...
sorry to say it but if your parents don't accept weed or gay then they probably aren't going to change their minds, no matter how hard you may try.

the only thing you could do i suppose is convince them that there isn't a weed-gay cause-effect balance going on....you either are or aren't gay, and you either do smoke and drink or you don't.

judging by what you said about feeling more confident without the ganj and feeling like you have to overcompensate when you're not under the influence i'd advise having a detox break for a while, get properly on top of your own brain and work out what's goin on in there, then live your life accordingly. it's up to you who you are, and nobody else.

and i agree with what woodstock said.

good luck man, i hope this stuff doesn't keep getting you down
 

biggun

Active Member
Your Parents are probably more concerned with what their friends think of them having a gay son instead of just being happy they just have a son to love... Their loss dude... PEACE
 

heathaa

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ive always got the best weed from gays lol. but yeah when you decided to be gay you were well aware of what your parents would think. you will probably never change their mind about weed. but if it helps put up a front. get a fake girlfriend or a girl who will play along. and play with your bofriend in the closet. most people are closet gays cuz they know they arent accepted as a gay.
 

juniaa

Member
I know how you feel and what you are going through right now. But i hope i can help you see there is a happier side to come.
i don't know at times i feel much more confident in myself if i haven't smoked.
i feel like weed has always been a way to escape from being different but i didn't understand that it was because i was gay until a year ago.
Green makes you think. Thought is our only real freedom, and we can think what we want, but this leads to your rational thoughts having to battle against the the fairytale doctrine of your parents, and Christianity in general. But surrounding yourself with supportive and unjudgemental people (which thankfully stoners tend to be, and my new set of mates have saved my sanity) is the best thing to do, even if you don't tell them you are gay (straight people don't have to come out why should we?), being in a nicer environment with no-one trying to damn each other to hell really helps, and having true friendship, not one that is based on a novel which says love all except <insert long list of people christianity expects you to hate>.
for a few months i even became an alcoholic this last year. i just don't understand or really know what to do anymore...
...is it time to stop smoking entirely and stop all substances for a while or something? my head hurts from thinking so much but when i am not high or drinking i feel like i need to be 'macho' all the time to solidify my identity...
Substance use is unfortunately not the end to problems, though weed has helped me be happy with who I am, don't use it to become a different person it will eventually just drive you insane. If you feel you want a break take a break, its nice to be sober sometimes.

...and what if my christian parents are right and all this weed has warped my brain and made me queer
Everyone has their right to believe what they want :), I like to daydream too (anyone else stop dreaming at night when smoking green every day?). But that is bullshit, with no evidence. It may stem from irrationality or some old medical studies which claimed marijuana lowered testosterone in the body which would make you feel less "macho" (which has since been proved wrong by scientists who have ethics, + do you really think Arnold Schwarzenegger would have blazed if it had a negative effect on muscle building).

If your parents don't understand, be happy in the knowledge they waste an hour of their life every sunday paying for their intolerance. But they have still brought you up with love and the best intentions (probably), they didn't start the religion they just grew up with it. It is a society that has been cultivated to make you feel bad for every simple pleasure. But it is the way of humanity to want to believe in something more can't blame them can you?

Dont get sucked into believing you are in the wrong here, if you are religious then God created you this way, and saying God made a mistake is surely blasphemy? If you are not religious, then take heart that many of the most successful civilisations, never even had homophobia, infact some such as the greeks, revered their homosexual warriors, fighting alongside your lover made you fight harder.

Sorry about the wall of text, and anti-christianity (I am against MOST religions equally, they tend to be the cause of the harm in the world, and if a group of people refuse to be tolerant of so many others Is it any surprise you are disliked?). If you want someone to talk to please message me, i know it has helped me a lot to have people who understand whats going on in my life to talk to.
 

morgentaler

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Also, think of it this way...

What if pot did make you gay? (it doesn't, but let's consider it hypothetically)

So what?

Who would you be hurting by engaging in consensual sex or romance with a person YOU find attractive?

And if you stopped smoking and hypothetically reverted to being straight....

Well, so what again?

Maybe you like having a guy and a girl at the same time. It's your life, your sexual adventures, and it doesn't matter who you share them with as long as they're capable of mutual consent.

There's no right or wrong, good or bad here.

Just be you.
 
Also, think of it this way...

What if pot did make you gay? (it doesn't, but let's consider it hypothetically)

So what?

Who would you be hurting by engaging in consensual sex or romance with a person YOU find attractive?

And if you stopped smoking and hypothetically reverted to being straight....

Well, so what again?

Maybe you like having a guy and a girl at the same time. It's your life, your sexual adventures, and it doesn't matter who you share them with as long as they're capable of mutual consent.

There's no right or wrong, good or bad here.

Just be you.
Thank you everyone for all the kind and supportive comments!

And thank you morgentaler. It doesn't matter if weed made me gay (even though I don't believe it did, even if my parents believe so). I like weed and i like myself, so there is nothing wrong with that. Thanks for helping me think logically about this.

It is a new year and plenty of new chances! I want to work on my identity this year. 2010 will be a good year.
 

morgentaler

Well-Known Member
I hear that the bathroom at the Republican National Committee is the happening place to be these days. :P

Good luck! :)
 

dirty1

Member
i think ur parents need to realise that neither being gay or smoking weed changes the person you are, your still the same son that you've always been, these days you just have different circustances in life. i think this is one of the biggest problems with humanity, people often let their faith take hold of them, whether it be religion or any other strong beliefs they uphold andthey forget to see circumastances through other peoples eyes. i suggest that you openly tell them, that you are gay and let them know that you are all for staying close to them, but they cant chage you and need to accept you for who you are and not to pass judgement upon you, as your still the same son theyve always had. i am not gay, and therefor cannot really compreend the situation that you are in so by all means, if you disagree with what ive said, your the one with the experience in the matter.
 
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