Best Organic Spider Mite Killer?

Jay Johnson

Active Member
Hi Im early into flower and just noticed that a couple of my leaves have little black dots on them when I flipped them over. I dont think they could have been here too long because Im in the room checking atleast twice a day.

So my question is what should I use to kill them at the early stage, if Im trying to keep a healthy herd of micro beatsies in the soil as well? I was thinking about neem oil because I have that on hand already, but then I was told that what runs over into the soil after the drench can kill of sum the beneficials...is this true?
 

mrbong73

Member
If you have access to a lavender or Rosemary plant you can make an extract that will knock them out.
Just soak in water for a day or two, dilute and spray.
 

NightbirdX

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I have used many many products for pest and mildew control while growing. I am kind of a tester for my grow store. I personally find that the best that I have used thus far is Neem Oil. It just controls so many different things as well as controlling pests. It is kinda the catch all for preventatives. Fungus, mildew, pests. For mites I have had a great sucess rate with it, you just have to apply it in a regular cycle and your pests will disappear. Basically for any kind of pesticide you use, if you use it as often as the eggs hatch, you will erradicate your pests. This requires that you spray every 3 days. R E L I G I O U S L Y. . . I mean when you spray, the plants should be sagging and dripping. I spray from the bottom to the top first hitting the bottoms of the leaves really well and then spray the tops after. You have to spray every 3 days or you will still have pests popping up randomly.

In general, the Neem Oil seems to last a lot longer than anything else. After I dose the plants with Neem for the first time, the problems virtually go away. This is where you can't be complacent like I have in the past, lol. You think they are gone, but they aren't. You HAVE to spray again 3 days later, and then do a spray another 3 days after that. I normally will try to hit them with a water spray or a Power Wash spray in between. So basically plan on spraying your plants with something for 10 days straight and the problem will go away. This is how you eradicate the bugs. It works 100% every time. The problem is that it is such a pain in the a$$ to take each plant out of my room and give it all the TLC it needs EVERYDAY for a week and a half! I am a busy man between the dispensary and my grow. So the problem I run into is that I normally can only spray every 5 days, which keeps everything in check very well. But it does not get rid of the problem all together.

The dosage that I use is just as it says on the bottle. 4 TBS/gal with 1/3 tsp wetting agent. I have used Antibacterial dish soap when I ran out of wetting agent and it worked quite well also, some people say that it decreases the effectiveness, I thought it actually helped a bit more. Shake vigorously often to keep the mix emulsified. It will cling together in cooler water. I use tepid water, not cold, but not hot. Too hot decreases effectiveness and I don't like to shock the plants with cold water, though some say that they only use cold water to foliar. I prefer Neem Oil over anything else. It is my go to if I have some really infected plants. The only bad thing about it is that you can't really use it in the last 2-3 weeks of flowering because it can leave a bitter after taste in your buds.

I just started using this other stuff called Purespray. It is OMRI certified. It is essentially just a horticultural oil from what I understand. I sprayed my plants in veg as I am dealing with an infestation at the moment. After a couple of days, I must say that I am pretty impressed with the results. I mixed a dosage just like I did for Neem and sprayed all my mothers and veg plants down. It looks as though I'll have a new veg spray. I have heard not to use during flowering. It doesn't say why, I assume because it is a heavy oil base and could affect the bud negatively. For veg though, so far it has been great. The plants loved it when I sprayed them and perked up quite a bit after the drenching.

For my plants that have an outbreak in the last few weeks of flowering, I'll use Mighty Wash. It says that it is safe to use up to the day of harvest and that it is a frequency tuned water that is tuned to kill mites, their other products focus on other things such as PM wash for Mildew, Power Wash as a cleaner, and Mighty Wash for mites. I have had mixed results with it. When using before a harvest it has worked great in killing the bugs, but when used during early flowering, the bugs just kinda shrugged it off. For early flowering I use Neem and only use Mighty Wash at the end, and then the night before I harvest, I will give it a final wash with Power Wash or PM Wash since those are basically just clear liquid, where as the Mighty Wash is pink, has a pleasant smell, and can leave a bit of a residue.

I hope this helps you a bit. I'm sorry it's lengthy. I got into some good Urkle tonight. :) I am going to start a thread on my experiences with Organic Pesticides and Fungistats for people to look at to get an idea of what the products do. Keep an eye out. -Bird
 

xebeche

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So I was wondering the same thing, though....does neem in your soil kill the beneficial microorganisms? I occasionally water in a neem/detergent mixture since it says it's okay on the bottle label, but lately I've been thinking that maybe it's not such a good idea.
 

Jay Johnson

Active Member
I thought about that but I dont have an enclosed area, those things would be all over my house and probably none in the grow closet by the end of the first day. lol I use predatory nematodes in my soil last grow and those things are the s***! Helped me out a ton.

But yea, I just gave them a spray down with neem. I figure as long as I have 4 weeks left following the spray down, I should be good to go with no taste issues. So I'll just hit them with the neem a couple more times and see if they all die out. Even tho I can't see them as it is. lol
 

South Texas

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According to studies (see Dirt Dirt Doctor.com/Library/Neem Oil), Neem is great for repelling Aphids, White Flies, Trips, Hornworms, Mealybugs, Leafminers, Gypsy Moths, Weevils, Webworms,Loopers, Psyllids & Sawflies.
Spider Mites isn't on the list.
Spider Mite infestation itself is a telltale sign that the Plant's Immunity System has been weakened. Once this happens, the Plant becomes substantially more prone to attacks from Insects & dieases. Thus, the Spider Mite problem. An inbalance of food sources, the over or under of such, too much or too little water, fluxuation in temps, etc; can off set the balance & weaken the immunity system.
To rid your Ladies of Spider Mites, Foliar feed with liquid Sea Weed every 10 to 14 days.. The Seaweed will give the Plant's an arrays of trace minerials, nutes, etc, that will allow the plant's cell structure to become SO healthy & tough that the Spider Mites can't bore into the plant's outer bark. So they die of malnutrition. This also helps the limbs to bear the weight of the fat-ass Buds. Seaweed is also a natural rooting stimulator (Cloning & Germing !!!). There is 90 different componets in Seaweed. Mixed with Molasses, they accent one another to become greater that it's original sum. I start this at 10" inches tall, until one week from harvesting. Hope this helped.
 

Rrog

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South Texas, Azamax is supposed to be good against mites and is a Neem derivative, I believe. I'll double check.

Your immune system perspective is very, very interesting. I would like to learn more if you have any recommended sites. Is there a liquid seaweed you prefer? Ratio with water and molasses (recipe)?
 

South Texas

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South Texas, Azamax is supposed to be good against mites and is a Neem derivative, I believe. I'll double check.

Your immune system perspective is very, very interesting. I would like to learn more if you have any recommended sites. Is there a liquid seaweed you prefer? Ratio with water and molasses (recipe)?
Review the Threads that I have started. Fire & Brimstone, Raid, suffication, Posions,, a LOT of stuff will kill Spider Mites. Neem w/Soap, like putting a Plant in a seal plastic bag, no oyxgen will kill them. Oil Base products will clog up the Plant's pours, denying energy & absorbtion of nutrients. But it kills spider mites. The Baby goes out with the bathwater. Only Seaweed stops the problem & is actually healthy for the plant. It should be used anyway so ppl won't be crying about broken branches, or small rooting systems, or small yeilds.
 

SupraSPL

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Yes Neem will kill eradicate spider mites. Azamax is a Neem extract (azadiractin) and it works well. You can use coco-wet or aloe as a surfactant if you want to keep it organic. I do not recommend spraying with soap.
 
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