Birth Control pills and seed germination

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2legit

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Well I was told by a friend that it increases the chances of getting a female by using water with a crushed BC pill in it. I tried it on my first grow from seed. I got 3 plants and after about 3 weeks I noticed I had one definite female. I let them sit for another week and still one for sure femal so I killed the other 2. I am about to start from seed again and am wondering if this actually works? It really can't hurt to try again, or could you use that type of solution in the watering in the first cpl day's of sprouting into soil?

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bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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lots of estrogen human estrogen though. maybe help keep herm prone plants female. plants do recognize this form of estrogen just like humans respond to phytoestrogens(isoflavones i think is the word for this) in things like soy. i cant see how it would help germination though:confused:
 
L

Luke

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I have used birth contorl pills for a hormone boost when my plants started to flower,but never in the germination period.I dont think estrogen in the beginng stages of seed germanation would effect the sex of the seed.
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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this is an interesting subject i am waiting for anyones thoughts. please no abusive or disrespectful comments that dont add anything to the discussion. only post if you have legitamite questions or answers.:peace:
 
Gamberro

Gamberro

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This sounds like that thing my friend did... He figured adding protein mix to a plant would make it stronger and grow faster.

Plants are in an entirely different Kingdom of Life. Their biochemistry in relation to us stops at the fact that we're both made of carbon. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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birth control on plants may or may not be of any value but plant estrogens effect humans and vice versa. that is why women going through menapause are suggested to eat soy and other particular plants for there estrodial compounds (phytoestrogens). there are also many plants that increase testosterone in males like tribulus etc.. by increasing various hormones some directly others indirectly. hormones are very powerful things and though different beetwen plants and mammals there definetley can be an effect. also when a animal dies in the forest or any where else eventually that protein becomes nutrients its called the nitrogen cycle. what does blood meal and some other ferts consist of lol:mrgreen:
 
Gamberro

Gamberro

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well, yes, but because the compounds break down to their base components, as they say. Granted. However, in such a case, it would probably be easier, cheaper, and in all more useful to just add some soy milk to your water, no?
 
Gamberro

Gamberro

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PS my point is more that the chemicals in a birth control pill effect the body in very specific ways... it makes no sense to me that that would also encourage estrogen in a plant, since a plant has no neuroreceptors to be spoken of.
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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i dont know maybe extracts from plants for a higher hormone concentration. i wonder if there are synthetic plant estrogens available. like there are rooting hormones and such. i would think adding estrogens to known female plants might benefit by promoting female features(FLOWERS) and possibly decreasing herms. if i run into a b.control pill i will try it on some females with some bloom fert just put into 12/12 and see if there is any diference like faster flower set growth etc.. might help might not but it would be a interesting test.:peace:
 
DWR

DWR

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not true.........................................

the birth control pills make the plant grow faster, not supposed to be used when germinating. Actually never use them... just do it normal...

But the birth pill shit makes your plant grow bigger i read somewhere.
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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slightly off topic but i have heard that crushed up aspirin in your water makes a huge difference in growth, had an old head hippie tel me about the estrogen thing ive never tried it but maybe it does maybe it doesn't he is a smart hippie and been growing large quantities fow many many years.
DWR said:
not true.........................................

the birth control pills make the plant grow faster, not supposed to be used when germinating. Actually never use them... just do it normal...

But the birth pill shit makes your plant grow bigger i read somewhere.
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bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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i dought it is usefull for germination i do think it might benefit growth of female plants. as far as aspirin im not sure but it does come from a tree i believe so maybe it contains hormones or compounds that benefit the plant dont know on that one.:confused:
 
420chazz

420chazz

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IMO, its bullshit, the active constituants of birth control pills are entirely HUMAN hormones, theres no way they would affect a plants growth.
anyway
cheers
chazz
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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plant and animal hormones can and do have an effect beetween species even plants. look into it. soy supplies estrogens that effect humans it goes the other way to. plant hormones are different than mammal hormones but not as much as you think. if you have not done it yourself you cannot say there would be no effect. post info dont just shoot people down this is a discussion:peace:
 
420chazz

420chazz

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ok then, heres some info;
birth control pills usually have the active ingredient progesterone, which is a sterol. it is an organic molecule which is very similar to cholesterol. it is a hormone which functions as a signal for some parts of the menstrual cycle and pregnancy in humans. plant hormones which control growth are typically smaller, less complex molecules such as ethene or cytokinins. they have markedly different chemical structure. as such, i personally would draw the conclusion that birth control pills could not possibly supplement or emulate plant hormones. it was only my opinion and i was not trying to shoot anyone down, just my two cents.
cheers
chazz
 
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