Urhighness88
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So I got a humbolt seed organization blue.dream seed but I been reading a lot of things saying only true Blue dream comes in clone not seed have I been dooped and got a knock off blue dream?
Blue dream question
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Thomas2681
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I got the same seeds from hso an once I got them that's when I started seeing the same thing about real blue dream only comes from clone ... So I'm going to stick around with you to get to the bottom of this
Urhighness88
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Lol I'm glad I'm not the only one with my Noob question lol
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
this is a tough question to honestly answer.. yes, there is a blue dream clone only, and now, a few breeders are selling blue dream in seed form.. i've grown the blue dream clone only, and seen tons of pix of the hso blue dream, and tbh, the hso doesn't look very much like the clone bd, imvho.. the clone is very sativa leaning, super thin leaves, while the hso looks to be a bit more on the indica side..
now, this is not to say that the hso isn't a good strain, as it looks stellar, lots of frost like the clone only and a good yielder.. but is it truly blue dream?? who knows, and for most of us, does it really matter as we're never going to get our hands on the real deal clone only unless you live in a med state, which most of us do not..
this is true for a lot of strains out now.. gsc's is a new hot strain, clone only, that's now being sold as seeds.. being that 90% of us will never get to try the real deal clone only, the seed version is all we'll ever get.. take it for what it is imo.. it could be killer smoke, who knows, but yes, it's not really this or that, but some breeders version of it, which is about as close as most of us will get..
now, this is not to say that the hso isn't a good strain, as it looks stellar, lots of frost like the clone only and a good yielder.. but is it truly blue dream?? who knows, and for most of us, does it really matter as we're never going to get our hands on the real deal clone only unless you live in a med state, which most of us do not..
this is true for a lot of strains out now.. gsc's is a new hot strain, clone only, that's now being sold as seeds.. being that 90% of us will never get to try the real deal clone only, the seed version is all we'll ever get.. take it for what it is imo.. it could be killer smoke, who knows, but yes, it's not really this or that, but some breeders version of it, which is about as close as most of us will get..
urban1026835
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The hso bd has many followers and journals on here so it may not well is not the clone only blue dream but from those I have spoke with personally who have grown the hso they all were happy and ran itmultiple times and some still keep it in their garden..
so while not the clone only it is surely worth running..myself I ran the desert diesel and it was a fantastic representation of sour D and a fat yielder, maybe I got a lucky pheno but it was nice enough I gave their fem version of the bubba kush a go to see how close to the bubba she is (vegging now)
so while not the clone only it is surely worth running..myself I ran the desert diesel and it was a fantastic representation of sour D and a fat yielder, maybe I got a lucky pheno but it was nice enough I gave their fem version of the bubba kush a go to see how close to the bubba she is (vegging now)
urban1026835
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check out riu member sxlstew's journals he has a nice pheno of BD which I believe he has now bred with both outcrossed and f2
NorthofEngland
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I do not know about this particular strain
but I will chip in with my perception of the HUMBOLDT SEED ORGANISATION (HSO).
It seems to have one of the best reputations of all the breeders
and they're not known for doing shady stunts.
Many breeders will sell as many misadvertised and useless seeds as they can,
then disappear - never to be seen again....
Actually they'll simply 'rebrand' themselves
and be back at the same game, days later.
Humboldt has a reputation and an established name.
These things are worth more than any amount of advertising
and I cannot imagine them being sacrificed
(unless there's new management and the potential to make a fortune).
SENSI SEEDS sells lots on it's name and reputation as one of the oldest banks in Amsterdam.
People assume they must be golden, to have survived so long....
But Google DURBAN V DURBAN to read about how assumptions can be wrong.
but I will chip in with my perception of the HUMBOLDT SEED ORGANISATION (HSO).
It seems to have one of the best reputations of all the breeders
and they're not known for doing shady stunts.
Many breeders will sell as many misadvertised and useless seeds as they can,
then disappear - never to be seen again....
Actually they'll simply 'rebrand' themselves
and be back at the same game, days later.
Humboldt has a reputation and an established name.
These things are worth more than any amount of advertising
and I cannot imagine them being sacrificed
(unless there's new management and the potential to make a fortune).
SENSI SEEDS sells lots on it's name and reputation as one of the oldest banks in Amsterdam.
People assume they must be golden, to have survived so long....
But Google DURBAN V DURBAN to read about how assumptions can be wrong.
NorthofEngland
Well-Known Member
RACERBOY
This is a digression (apologies to the OP) but your CLONE ONLY v SEEDS comments made me think.... (which is something I always try t avoid!).
If the MED STATES are the only places where trends such as CLONE ONLY STRAINS or CONCENTRATES can occur....
Isn't it inevitable that, every week, the research abilities and open market will lead to the 'Med States' becoming more and more advanced in the qualities of plant grown
and the strengths of products extracted (and technologies for taking these substances)
whilst the rest of us (in the dark parts where people can still go to prison for a plant) will find ourselves falling further and further behind....???
Like the people's of the SOVIET UNION in the 70's and 80's.....Watching the chasm between East and West grow ever larger.
We enjoyed cars and holidays and Levi's Jeans....
whilst they queued for bread and walked for miles attempting to find luxuries, like a 3amp fuse or shoe laces.
Will we, the inhabitants of the OLD World, make do with 3rd rate shwagg
whilst you MED STATES people enjoy dabs and strains at 48%THC ???
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
my answer would be yes and no.. naturally being in a med state, you'd have access to things like testing and the like, but all testing does imo is tell you about the quality of what your smoking.. you can have your bud or concentrates tested all day every day, it's not going to make the strains any stronger each time you get them tested though..
on the other hand, some of, not all, but some of the clone only's are certainly better then anything else out there, which is why they're so coveted.. maybe only a few thc % points, but stronger none the less.. the nice thing about the modern world is things like clones are easily mailed, not that i'm for breaking federal law and would never do so myself,
, but it is possible of course.. you'd just need to find a person holding a clone you're after and get them to give up a cut, which is usually much easier then it sounds unfortunately.so, that leaves us in the more draconian parts of the world seed versions, sometimes they're close to being what they claim, and other times, an unscrupulous breeder(s) will be quick to slap the flavor of the month name on what ever they happen to have lying around at the time, after all, how many seed buyers have seen a real deal girl scouts cookies for example, in order to compare the two??
this is why i'm always stressing to know your breeders, ask questions as to what strains were used to make the cross, and to try and stay away from breeders who either don't disclose their parents, or out right lie about them.. of course this all take lots of work on our end, but this is where forums and the internet are an invaluable tool.. any one of us can google so and so and have 40 hits with in seconds..
Thomas2681
Active Member
yeah I'm on the east coast an we dont have any med states over here but main an I'm not about to go that far about trying to get a clone an get popped on the way back with the bitch an Urhighness88 I feel a lil bit better after hearing that hso has a good rep cause I got three five packs from the desert diesel which you gave a good report about the purple trainwreck an the blue dream an a few freebies they thrown in
Ski's Genes
Member
In the end if its good it wasn't a waste of time. I know everybody wants the "real deal" but how do you suppose they got it? Two words, SEED HUNT! Wow this is good bud lets pop a couple seeds in the bottom of this bag. Most "breeders" will even admit that. And lough and behold out of the rough a gem appears. CLONE ONLY! SORRY CLONE ONLY! Because of that I would suggest starting with good genetics (they obviously did the weed was good enough to get them to plant some). Humboldt has awesome genetics. Pop as many as you can don't be afraid of males just nip them young and keep pollen. Male pollen is worth it's weight in gold. Cross some things you would like to see, taste, smell. I bet you get something kickass and then you can say CLONE ONLY! SORRY CLONE ONLY! Give it a try what's the worst that could happen? You get a lot of good meds?
HillBillyStoner
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If you want to see a good representation this strain check out Buds On Buds on youtube. This guy has some real nice footage of the HSO Blue Dream, also he has the Chem Dog and Bubba Kush. The HSO Blue Dream is Blueberry X Haze. But after looking at the Bud on Buds Blue Dream and Cem Dog I have to try them out.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc4Kk7RDh9_ciXe0jdDimCQ
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc4Kk7RDh9_ciXe0jdDimCQ
TheHazeNKushSmoker
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Real BD or not here is her potential AND I SWEAR this plant smell heaven! Each day i pass my finger on a lower leave with some thc on it and each time i really ask my self if im not about to cream my pants.
And btw she is only 48 days old so imagine in 2 weeks
TheHazeNKushSmoker
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Yeah dude cant go wrong with HSO! They are not the most known but god their plants are awesome! Pyramid seed too
Jozikins
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Unless the seeds are coming from the original breeder, who seems to be unknown from the little research I did on it a while back, the answer is no. Real deal Blue Dream is clone only, although there is a remake that I thought was extremely close, I believe it was available online at one time. Blue Sugar is the name of it.
Supposedly there are 2 major pheno's of the original cuts from seed going around, a Blueberry dominant pheno, and a Super Silver Haze dominant pheno (although many argue that it was Neville's Haze, not SSH,) and recently I've heard of a Super Blue Dream cut going around here in So Cal, OC area.
I've been growing the original cut, the SSH dom cut, which is the one which should be familiar as "real" Blue Dream for at least 4 years now, and anything else besides the Blue Sugar didn't even come close. The Blue Sugar was debated to be possibly better, but in the end I stuck with my BD cut, because the BS cut smelt really similar, but was kind of spicy, which is very unlike the sweet sour candy smell of Blue Dream.
Supposedly there are 2 major pheno's of the original cuts from seed going around, a Blueberry dominant pheno, and a Super Silver Haze dominant pheno (although many argue that it was Neville's Haze, not SSH,) and recently I've heard of a Super Blue Dream cut going around here in So Cal, OC area.
I've been growing the original cut, the SSH dom cut, which is the one which should be familiar as "real" Blue Dream for at least 4 years now, and anything else besides the Blue Sugar didn't even come close. The Blue Sugar was debated to be possibly better, but in the end I stuck with my BD cut, because the BS cut smelt really similar, but was kind of spicy, which is very unlike the sweet sour candy smell of Blue Dream.
rory420420
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mines clone only