Blue Dream Starving past 4th week of flower

Hey rollers I have been having an outbreak of starvation that has been out of control for a few too many weeks so many yellow leaves falling from N def i wasn't using enough grow big nor enough epsom for cal mag.

I've been using a mix of epsom gypsum n calmag for cal n mag defs. And generally feeding 1 tsp tiger 1/4 grow and 2 big bloom 3/4 of the waterings the other 1/4 more of a flush watering about every 3 days. I upped them to 1.5 tiger 1 grow 4 bloom 1/4 of calmag 1/2 epsom and 1/2 gypsum Last feeding.
Im thinking they mostly need mag less iron (no calmag) more N (more growbig) and also tad less phos but more potassium? (Should i supplement wood ashes from the outdoor fire pit? Backing off tiger?)
The dots on the leaves signify manganese def which i think is too much iron/ high Ph.

I know Blue dream is a heavy feeder, i think i should quit screwing around with Fox farm and upgrade to flora series or something else with a more complete 3 feed that doesn't require a bunch of extra supplements
Edit: who the fuck uses Fox farms schedule it will always unforgivingly scorch your babies

I use fox farms and love it besides cal mag i dont use anything else. Why (1/4 more of a flush watering about every 3 days) so often no wonder they are starving. feed them and LEAVE THEM ALONE till the pot you have them in is light (not water soaked) your doing more harm than good. Whats your ph more info could help too.

Give them a full dose feeding with cal/mag once a week. The feeding schedule is on point for outdoors @ 2x's a wk. Indoors it will burn your tips a bit depending on if the plant is a heavy feeder or not..

With bd I run veg Nutes all the way through flower, they eat n like monsters. I'm pretty sure gg had a similar situation on his run of bd in his 1k hps vs Apache thread. Bd is an insanely heavy feeder. Almost impossible to keep all the way green all the way through flower.


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rexx890 said:

I use fox farms and love it besides cal mag i dont use anything else. Why (1/4 more of a flush watering about every 3 days) so often no wonder they are starving. feed them and LEAVE THEM ALONE till the pot you have them in is light (not water soaked) your doing more harm than good. Whats your ph more info could help too.

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What do you use for calmag? And I was stober when I wrote that, im not flushing every 3 days i meant watering/feeding once every 3 days (~2 dry days) where 3/4 of the time its general feed then 1/4 of the time a light feed where ill soak the soil with a cup of water then ill feed light nutes.
My ph is a little high around 7, tonight ill double check their ph's and adjust to hit 6.5.

Diabolical666 said:

Give them a full dose feeding with cal/mag once a week. The feeding schedule is on point for outdoors @ 2x's a wk. Indoors it will burn your tips a bit depending on if the plant is a heavy feeder or not..

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The schedule for Fox farms is on point? How would I adjust around their schedule? Im indoor so would u say feed them full dose everything once a week and 3 days later ph'd water once a week? And why let it burn a bit even if its a heavy feeder? Im kinda hesitant giving full dose i hate the idea of burning them, but honestly those monsters would probably eat anything, theyre like middle schoolers hitting puberty

kmog33 said:

With bd I run veg Nutes all the way through flower, they eat n like monsters. I'm pretty sure gg had a similar situation on his run of bd in his 1k hps vs Apache thread. Bd is an insanely heavy feeder. Almost impossible to keep all the way green all the way through flower.


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ya they probably would chomp up a full dose like a frenzy, theyre beautifully monstrous

thumper60 said:

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Youre right, im going to transplant today, theyll love it

Holy shit my runoff ph was 4!! After tranpxing and ph adjusting to the sweet 6.5, i couldnt help but to show the errgreest duckling it stretched like 4x its height smells great though

If blue dream outgrows it's container you almost have to feed every watering or she'll eat up her fan leaves, higher cal mag / nitrogen needs with this strain, once you get it corrected then don't stress, let the plant talk to you and let you know what else she needs

Soilgrownsmile said:

If blue dream outgrows it's container you almost have to feed every watering or she'll eat up her fan leaves, higher cal mag / nitrogen needs with this strain, once you get it corrected then don't stress, let the plant talk to you and let you know what else she needs

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But don't go crazy

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But don't go crazy

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What about iron or sulphur? I always wonder what proportions of calmag/epsom/gypsum to give. And if I feed a tsp of growbig would mixing calmag give N burn? I felt like calmag absorbs better than gypsum so I was thinking about 1/4 tsp each of gypsum epsom and calmag, but im not sure if anything will lock each other out by having excess iron or something

bro54209 said:

What about iron or sulphur? I always wonder what proportions of calmag/epsom/gypsum to give. And if I feed a tsp of growbig would mixing calmag give N burn? I felt like calmag absorbs better than gypsum so I was thinking about 1/4 tsp each of gypsum epsom and calmag, but im not sure if anything will lock each other out by having excess iron or something

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Ff grow big? Don't think it has cal mag in it...the cal mag would be a quick fix , it has iron in it , plants take time to respond, you can always add more , hope this helps