Brainstorm & NL #5 x Haze Grow!

Well, I'm a lady grower, and fairly new to growing, but I'm having a lot of fun and love to show off my babies.

Currently, I have one Brainstorm plant, I started on 5/10/09, and three Northern Lights #5 x Haze started about 5/28/09, which haven't shown sex yet.

The Brainstorm plant was from a feminized seed which I bought because I was tired of having to kill the males.

I used FFOF soil with added perlite. I've been using Big Bloom, Bio-Tone Starter Microbial Plant Food and Voodoo Juice. I've been keeping my tap water ph'd down to 6.5 and the ppm is about 400 now.

I'll post some pics of the early stages of the grow here in this post. The first two photos are the Brainstorm in its early stages. The third is my growtent before the venting was connected. The fourth is growtent after venting and fan. Fifth is the Brainstorm further along. The last two are earlier shots of two of my NL #5 x Haze plants. I'm now in the second week of 12/12.

I'm using one 400 watt hps which I vented with exhuast fan. I just added a 57 watt cfl above the Brainstorm for some added lumens. My temps are fairly high during the day, about 86 degrees, which I know isn't good. Currently I'm trying to decide what to do about the high temps and humidity levels. They haven't started stinkin up the place yet, so all I'm using now for odor control is some Ona. May do a diy carbon filter or something else later on.

Any comments are welcome. I'll add more pics soon. Thanks!

Maybe I'm talking to myself here, but anyway...

Some updates of the grow.

The first photo is the Brainstorm before topping and cropping (now its much bushier and has flowers already). The second is just another shot of the Brainstorm plant. The third is the first NL#5xHaze plant, fourth is the second, and fifth is the runt. Sixth is the group shot and seventh the growtent.

These are the photos I've taken today. The first, second, third, fourth, fifth again, my pride and joy, Brainstorm plant. The sixth is growtent and next two are nl#5xhaze plants #2 and #3.

kind of disappointing no feedback on the grow. i can use all the help i can get.

this might be a duplicate, I just posted and got re-directed out.

Nice grow. Nice to see a lady with a clean tent and hood! no sexism

Do you plan on cloning? Nice to have some going when you switch to flower.

What are your outside temps? We can at least get that down to outside temps.

Is their any airconditioning? Fans?

86 does sound like the max for a veg. Are the leaves curling? The big prob with heat is in flower. They stretch like hell. Very bad.

I was looking for an NL5 grow. I like.

Any perpetual in mind. Asked already, some cfls for clones would be good.

Coooool.

oh yeah, I had a rabbit named Bee when I was like 5. I did. lol.

They will stink. I advise start thinking about a charcoal filter and in this a room you can avoid being in when on, an ozone generator.

Can the 400 be lowered. I am guessing no as the heat. I pay an extra 50 dollars a month in my apt to keep the central air cooling it. Also fans up the ass and a big inline really helps.

Is that an inline on the light, does the light have its own circuit? I mean air circuit? Or does it exhaust the tent too?

I am currently in flower, switched to 12/12 about two weeks ago. I have two fans for circulation inside and an exhaust fan on the venting. Despite this, the heat prevails. Read somewhere on here that radiant heat differs from the overall heat, so I'm hoping the overall heat is less, I'm just not measuring it. The outdoor temps are in the high 70s these days. The growth is still good despite the temps and the Brainstorm is budding nicely already (vegged her the longest). I have an air conditioner in the adjoining room. I'm thinking about getting an a/c unit in there too or a dehumidifier. The leaves on the Brainstorm are fine, some of the leaves on the NL#5xHaze plants curl downward a little. Think I'll scope out Craigslist for a good deal on an a/c unit. These growrooms get expensive.


Anyway, thanks for the comments and help, glad to see someone is watching.

cant wait to see these strain bud. i have always looked at brainstorm and never had the balls to try it cause its not mainstream.

Cyproz said:

cant wait to see these strain bud. i have always looked at brainstorm and never had the balls to try it cause its not mainstream.

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Well, it started already, so welcome along for the ride. It was a strain recommended and grown by 1982Grower, who has kind of disappeared lately. Anyway, it is doing so well, despite the intense heat, so I'm hopeful.

Thanks.

about the light. We should be able to get that heat down some, I bet, before you get an ac. Save a lot on money and power.

Hoe many CFM is that light's fan? Is it a true inline fan or a comp fan or a duct booster?

Does the light have a seperate circuit?

You may just need to get a bigger inline fan. Say a 6 in fan and for that size tent put it on a circuit that can exhaust the whole tent too and pull through a charcoal filter.

If so that is maybe a 180 dollar package deal at HTG and only 60-100 watts.

Maybe even cheaper if you use craigslist for an inline fan and if you can an ozone gen and filter. I see them for about 50 bucks each. I dont know about not buying a fresh charcoal filter for at least 90 bucks. A 6 in.

the tent should be 77 too and the light should be cool enough to lower to 10 inchs!

I myself live in a desert with a 400 metal halide and a 600 lumatek hps that i run on a mh 24/0 and the hps 12/12. I started with the 400 and a closet. The best thing I bought was the tent. Good for you. Makes it possible for someone in an apt with no wheels to grow. Dont ask.

Also I am glad to see soil. I started out in hydro, less than a year ago. I am now in organic soil using a version of super soil from subcools threads and loving it. I add only water or I see probs and the plants can eat whenever they want which triples growth at a regualar pace!

Ro water I learned to love in hydro. In organic soil it is nescacry as the soil food web is so important. "the soil food web" by lownefels is a fun read and short and full of use.

Ocean forest is rocking me too, I have moved on to peat and compost and worm castings and just amending that.

Hope your temps get better.

tea tree said:

about the light. We should be able to get that heat down some, I bet, before you get an ac. Save a lot on money and power.

Hoe many CFM is that light's fan? Is it a true inline fan or a comp fan or a duct booster?

Does the light have a seperate circuit?

You may just need to get a bigger inline fan. Say a 6 in fan and for that size tent put it on a circuit that can exhaust the whole tent too and pull through a charcoal filter.

If so that is maybe a 180 dollar package deal at HTG and only 60-100 watts.

Maybe even cheaper if you use craigslist for an inline fan and if you can an ozone gen and filter. I see them for about 50 bucks each. I dont know about not buying a fresh charcoal filter for at least 90 bucks. A 6 in.

the tent should be 77 too and the light should be cool enough to lower to 10 inchs!

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I just found the box for the exhaust fan. It is an Active Air In-Line 6" Booster Fan that is rated up to 188 cfm. I don't have the lights on their own circuit and I don't think I could swing this as I have a small one bedroom apartment.

I've thought about cloning, but I was thinking I should maybe just try to learn how to grow well first. I'm considering starting to germ some more seeds soon to veg them and then they will be ready for the flowering when my current ones are done.

Definitely need to make my own supply, as for me purchasing isn't happening.

is my booster fan the wrong type? being kind of new to this and a female, these kinds of things make me a little confused. not sure what you mean about "air circuit" either. I just attached some dryer venting to the one side of my light which has glass on the bottom, and the fan and an adapter to the other side which I think exhausts the entire tent. I open the tent during the day to keep it a little cooler. at night the temps are of course fine. if i need a different fan to attach to the light, i'll check out craigslist or ebay.

thanks for all the help, really appreciate it.

oh, and the room my tent is in is my bedroom, so i could only avoid it during the day when i'm working. i'm on vacation this week and having fun at the beach.

I checked out htg and ebay and saw the inline fan/carbon filter combo I think you are referring to tea tree. I'm going to check out some other sources to see if I can get a better deal before i pay about $200 for that with shipping.

Wondering, do I just take the booster fan out or would I leave that on one side of the light? I keep buying things and having to upgrade.

Anyway, I really do appreciate all the help.

wannabee said:

is my booster fan the wrong type? being kind of new to this and a female, these kinds of things make me a little confused. not sure what you mean about "air circuit" either. I just attached some dryer venting to the one side of my light which has glass on the bottom, and the fan and an adapter to the other side which I think exhausts the entire tent. I open the tent during the day to keep it a little cooler. at night the temps are of course fine. if i need a different fan to attach to the light, i'll check out craigslist or ebay.

thanks for all the help, really appreciate it.

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To tea tree:

going back and reading this post, and yours again, I'm starting to understand more about a circuit. If I understand you correctly or somewhat anyway, the way I have it set up, would not vent the entire tent because it goes only through the light and back out. I'm not sure how I would exhaust the entire tent. Can you explain this a little more?

Hello all! I see people looking and not responding, so thats okay.

I still have my heat and humidity issues, but I'll just persist and see how things work out.

I'm happy about the progress of my Brainstorm plant. The buds are thickening up well, despite temps, humidity and the proximity of the lights, which conditions I now know aren't optimal. An ac isn't an option right now, but I'm going to search for a real inlne fan and carbon scrubber, which will help the temps and smell.

My NL#5 x Haze runt (plant #3) showed sex today and I'm happy to report its a female. This makes me wonder if the other two larger ones are males and just not showing sex yet.

Can anyone tell me about how long it takes for males to show their sex after switching over to 12/12. These are NL#5xHaze plants. Just wondering. I'd love to see some comments about anything, doesn't matter if you can inform me or just say hello. Thanks.

For a tent that size and in your situation I think the best bet is to just get that 6 in or a 4 in (nervous) and then vent like you do but replacing the booster fan with the 4-6 in inline fan.

By the way thanks for paying attention, this is nice.

There is a diference in the two fans. One is the duct booster. It is meant to assist the inline fan on long ducts. It really has so little power on it's own that it is not really ok on a light unless you are pumping one end with air. I know they are billed all worng. When I first got my 400 I bought the duct booster too, I could not keep temps below 90!

I bought a nice 6 inch inline for 110 shipped. It is huge. I recently bought a 8 inch for cheaper on e-bay. Only buy new. I am sure you get a 4 or a 6 inch inline fan on ebay, from a hydro shop or hvac, for under a 100. That is your best bet.

For the size. That is a biggy. The best is the 6 inch. With your temps like they are I an sure you could get away with a four. The thing is the fans get noisy. So a six inch will require you to wrap it in some blankets or some sound proof. I dont know how handy but the best is to build a plywood box. Also you have to put a vertain amount of ducting on it or the noise of the wind is too loud. They have expensive mufflers and such. The method I use is too use larger air tubes and a thermal curtain wrapped around everything. DIY for now.

If noise is at all a concern then I suggest the 4 inch for now and work with that. I went with the 6 inch as my temps were so high. IDK, your outside temps must be better. I live in desert and use mostly fast air to cool.

EDIT:IGNORE THIS< SOTNED> SKIP TO NEXT PARA=I suggest using this same setup but with a biger fan because it is a lot of work to put a light on a tent on a single circuit. Unless your tent has the dcut flanges on it already then that is what I suggest you do right now as it will prob cool your light down alot. Although for a 400 a bigger duct booster might work it you use a single circuit for the light.

NOT YET: I am looking for pics. Do you have the flange kits, those metal peices that go over the holes? That might save you a ton of money. In fact maybe you shoudl just get some and do that, if you could also get another fan and use that for exhaust.

HERE: yes in fact, i think that getting three flange kits would be best. Sorry, lol, wake and bake. Also I forgot that only I have a crappy tent that makes it impossible to get a flange on (lol) but am about to upgrade anyway.

I cant find a pic. Picture your tent. It has one outake right now, hooked up to the fan and light. Well put ducting on the other end of the light and if you can with your tent hook it up to another exhaust port and pull outside air through your light. This is the BEST way to do this. It keeps it way cooler. You may even get by with not getting a bigger fan. This way you are not pulling in hot air thru the light. Then you get another port, most have four for this and hook up a small fan and charcoal filter.

There, IGNORE the top half. Lol, in fact that was all a product of me being lazy. I am going today to get a few more peices to do the same finally to my tents. I am sick of this sloppy work. Thank you for the inspiration lol.

wow what a post. use a single circuit for light before you buy bigger fans. that is the gist

i'm so happy to hear from you again and it means a lot to me that you would take such time and attention to me and my situation. i am scoping out a deal on the inline fan and carbon scrubber and i'm thinking the 4" one will be adequate, just wonder if i'll have to get an adapter since my flanges are 6"?

i'm hoping it's not too noisy either, but the booster fan is pretty loud and i don't mind white noise, as i usually have an air purifier going. have to have something to block out the sound of my landlord playing halo with people online, lol.