brown slimy roots

apasunee

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I have 3 plants growng in this system I built from scratch,,, I have a 5inch air stone at the bottom that stays on even when the lights are off,, they are in 3 weeks flower and their roots are discustingly brown,, some people say use peroxide but noone says how much and put it in res, or pour through the hydroton rocks at the base of the plants,,, can someone please help me these girls look good still........ help,,,, help,,, Im begging you for my 3 girls sakes please.......kiss-ass
 

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apasunee

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I have 3 plants growng in this system I built from scratch,,, I have a 5inch air stone at the bottom that stays on even when the lights are off,, they are in 3 weeks flower and their roots are discustingly brown,, some people say use peroxide but noone says how much and put it in res, or pour through the hydroton rocks at the base of the plants,,, can someone please help me these girls look good still........ help,,,, help,,, Im begging you for my 3 girls sakes please.......kiss-ass
 

SmokeyMcSmokester

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not a good thing brotha!! get some h202 from the grow store...i use about 1 drop per gallon..there is also this stuff called hygrozyme. Its a bacteria that eats bad bacteria in your res. kinda expensive but well worth it!!! To get rid of root rot you can use this stuff called sm-90.. I have both of those products and they work well!

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/11038-sm-90-i-used-root.html - here is a thread on the stuff

also what are the temps in your res??

airstones get nasty.
 

apasunee

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peroxide,, so I heard if you start mixing with water it will save your roots,, but noone said how much per gallom......:peace:
not a good thing brotha!! get some h202 from the grow store...i use about 1 drop per gallon..there is also this stuff called hygrozyme. Its a bacteria that eats bad bacteria in your res. kinda expensive but well worth it!!! To get rid of root rot you can use this stuff called sm-90.. I have both of those products and they work well!

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/11038-sm-90-i-used-root.html - here is a thread on the stuff

also what are the temps in your res??

airstones get nasty.
 

dankillerbs

Active Member
Hygrozyme is like cough medicine... It will relieve the syptoms temporarilly but WILL NOT solve your REAL problem! You need to get the temp in your res DOWN! If its over 75f, you are asking for problems... Hygrozyme may be the only way to save THOSE plants, but its not the answer in the long run!
 

Cissy

Active Member
I have the same situation, but the temp in my reservoir has always been at 65 degrees. I didnt think it was even possible to have this issue at such a low temp??
 

morrisgreenberg

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you need to tell us the water temps, with properely aerated water i have seen a grower run temps over 77F, little oxygen in the water will create a breeding ground for the little nasties, if you are on a budget you may have to go the peroxide route cus the hygrozyme is $50 a quart and if you have root rot already you will use a ton of it, first things first you need to control water temps, with hydro you need to expect the water temp will be no more than 2degrees less then ambient room temps, so if room is too hot and an a/c or water chiller is not viable then no hydro for you, its that simple. first order of business should be that you get a few bottles of the store bought 3% peroxide and mix 30ml/gal thats 2 tablespoons or 6 teaspoons, pull your plants out of that tray and try to pull off the dead/dying roots, they should come off easily, you can then spray or dunkn the plant into the peroxide mix, try to get asmuch of the slimey stuff off, dump your res water and add clean the tray and res with this mix, add same mix to res with no nuttrients, change out daily, in a recirculating system you dont want to keep feeding that sludge to your roots, now if you get hygrozyme do all of that but instead of water and peroxide in the res use hygrozyme and change out daily, new white roots in 5-7 days...this is ofcourse you sorted out the water temp issues
 
I have root rot also, I use 3 teaspoons h2o2 15ml hygrozyme, 1.5 teaspoons aquashield per gallon. It was recomended by a knowlagable person. Just started this 2 days ago. My light comes on in about an hour I will let you know how they look.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hygrozyme is a protein based enzymatic agent. It is not compatible with H2O2. H2O2 will break down Hygrozyme on contact, as it will do with any organic matter. H2O2 is also not compatible with 'organic' nutrients for the same reason.

However, if you're using inorganic nutes, H2O2 is the preferred (due to providing oxygen to the rootmass) and always-effective solution. Apply 50% grade H2O2 at 1ml/L of rez tank volume every 3-4 days. Don't use the 3-6% pharmacy grades. They contains stabilisers which are not plant friendly. While 50% grade is preferred and can be found at most hydro shops, 35% "food grade" H2O2 is available from foodservice equip suppliers where it is sold as a food contact surface steriliser. Use 35% at about 1.5ml/L.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hygrozyme is like cough medicine... It will relieve the syptoms temporarilly but WILL NOT solve your REAL problem! You need to get the temp in your res DOWN! If its over 75f, you are asking for problems... Hygrozyme may be the only way to save THOSE plants, but its not the answer in the long run!
Lower rez temps are indeed better since water above about 27C tends to lose its dissolved oxygen quickly, but regular treatment with H2O2 will solve both pathogen and oxygenation problems. H2O2 will also stop airstones from getting manky with accumulations of fungus.
 

Michael Phelps

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Al b. fuct im in kind of a prediciment, im broke till next friday, dont have alot of money, no hydro shops close to me. Would store brand h202 work for the week, atleast help with the browning? i need some advice, you can reference the pic of my roots on page one.

any help would be appreciated, thanks!
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
I strongly disadvise the use of the 3% and 6% because of the sodium based stabilisers used. They could well make your problem worse. Moreover, the cost of 3% is prohibitive in a hydroponic application. If you used 3%, you'd need 17ml/litre. At about $5 for 3% in a 250ml bottle (common pharmacy price around here), each ml of pure H2O2 (7.5ml pure H2O2 mixed with water in 250mls of 3% grade) is $0.67 and that 250ml bottle will only treat 7.5L of tank volume.

I buy 25L jugs of 50% grade for $125. Each ml of pure H2O2 at that rate is $0.01 each.

Borrow money if you must and go out of your way to get the right stuff. I really do fear that the colloidal stannate or sodium pyrophosphate stabilisers will make your lot worse.
 

crackerboy

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I have used peroxide before for the same reason. It worked for me. You also need to make sure that no light is getting into your reservoir. 2 tsp/gal of water.
 
Al b. fuct I dont want this to come of as I am being a dick or smarty pants but, have you read the label on hygrozyme. It says you can use h202 with it. I have been using the 3% stuff.......I guess i need to get the real deal. I am very new to growing so please dont tke my question out of context. Do you feel that hygrozyme is benificial for root rot problems.
 

MeJuana

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Interesting everywhere I have read says don't mix H202 with any beneficial organisms. Maybe these are specially breed to be immune. What about removing as much of the mushy root rot as possible and rinsing it really well. Is this a myth or is it helpful?
 
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