bugs in my room

allmyne69

Member
Help!!! My small grow has become infested (apparently overnight) by a small, brownish-greyish, grasshopper looking creature. They have consumed several leaves of my 14 day old plants. I have seen recipes for homemade insecticide using a diluted version of dish soap. 1 to 2 percent per gallon. Is this okay? How do I measure 1 to 2 percent? Any and all advice is very much appreciated. I have a camera but the ability to take micro pictures is limited. I don't think that anything so small as the size of my bugs will focus. I don't care what kind of bug they are. I just want them to die. It sounds cruel but my plants are mine. Not theirs (sic). I utilize my weed for pain and to think happy thoughts. I'm a VFW and seriously do not want to lose my medication.
 

John Jacob

Active Member
there are some vegetable insecticides out there for like tomatoes and such that you can spray ontop of the soil and the fan leaves without harming the plant.. Good luck!
 

Faldikar

Active Member
first thing you will want to do is identify what type of bug it is that is eating your girls. if youre looking for a natural broad spectrum Zero Tolerance works well( kills and repels: spider mites, aphids, whiteflies, thrips, ants, caterpillars, gnats, root aphids, mealy bugs, scale, powdery mildew, gray and white mold). it would be a good idea to find at least three different insecticides to use. if you use just one, the insects will often build a tolerance or immunity, by switching between three you give the bugs less of a chance to survive and adapt.
 

Vindicated

Well-Known Member
I keep a 16oz sprayer on hand filled with water and 1-2 drops of dawn dish soap. Technically it isn't organic but it's pretty darn safe. The colder the water the more it shocks the bugs. I like to soak the plant real good using this solution and while the plant is still wet, I rub the top and bottom of the leaves. If you have dry soil around, add some to your containers, forming a thin even layer, so the bugs don't lay eggs.

You can also find tons of home made insecticide recipes online. A lot of people boil garlic, habaneros, and different herbs thought to be good pest deterrents. I haven't tried that since soap and water does a good enough job at spot killing. For prevention, I like to lightly powder my plants with Diatomaceous Earth.
 

Faldikar

Active Member
here is some info i snagged from somewhere i dont remember, have not used them as i do well with what ive been using.


1) Combine one teaspoon of hot pepper or tobasco sauce, 4 cloves of garlic and a quart of water. Blend well in a blender and strain, with cheesecloth or nylon mesh before placing in your sprayer. This will repel many insects including whiteflies, apids, spidermites and caterpillars.
2) Mix 1/8-1/4 cup of hydrated lime with one quart of water. This creates an effective spray agains many insects, especially spidermites. Add a drop of non-detergent soap to act as a sticking agent and insecticide. Lime can cause serious harm to plants if you use too much, so always spray a test plant first and watch it for a few days, to check for any adverse effects on plants.
3) Take one ounce of tomato leaves and add to one quart of water and blend thoroughly. Strain the resulting liquid and use to repel insects. This works well on white cabbage butterflies too.
4) Take a copious amount(as many as you can collect) of the insect you wish to repel and grind their corpses up into a powder. Mix the resulting powder with one quart of water and, spray as a repellent for the insect that you ground up for the powder.

Insecticidal soaps are mild, contact insecticides that are made from the fatty acids of animals and plants. These insecticides are safe for humans, as well as, bees and animals. The soaps will help to control soft-bodied insects such as spidermites, thrips, mealybugs, whiteflies and aphids. Insecticidal soaps penetrate and clog their bodies membranes, thereby killing them. You can buy a commercial soap product, such as Safer's Inecticidal Soap, or make your own insecticidal soaps which can prove very effective against your garden pests.
You should use a soft soap(do not use detergent soaps because these can be problematic to your plants health) such as Ivory liquid dish soap, Murphy's Oil soap, or Castille soap, all of which are biodegradable and can kill insects in a similar fashion to commercially manufactured brands. Mix three capfuls, of any of these soft soaps, with one quart of water, for a very effective insecticidal soap. These soft soaps will only last about a day before they dissipate, and need to be reapplied after above ground watering or rain.

Nicotine can be a very effective method of pest control as well. It is naturally derived, however, it is not usually used in organic gardens due to its toxicity. Nicotine can be deadly to most insects and humans, when swallowed in concentrate. This poisonous compound, affects the neuromuscular system causing insects to go into convulsions and die. Sometimes you can see it sold commercially, mixed with sulfur. One commonly used product is Black Flag's Nicotine Sulfate.
Nicotine sulfate(tobacco/water tea combined with sulfur) is excellent for use on all plants except members of the nightshade family(potatoes, eggplants, peppers, tomatoes). To make your own tobacco spray: simply combine 1/2 ounce of tobacco per quart of water, soak for one day at room temperature and strain the resultant tea. Nicotine sprays are useful on all insects, but are usually used for aphids. It is not recommended to use nicotine sulfate on plants you intend to use for consumption.

Horticultural oils are a non-poisonous, safe, and non-polluting insecticides. They are usually used to kill slow moving, immobile sucking insects by suffocating them with a thin layer of oily film. These types of insecticides are usually produced by manufacturers and not concocted by gardeners themselves. Horticultural oil spray can be useful against many bugs including aphids, scales, thrips, spidermites, whiteflies and mealybugs.

Pyrethrum is the last insecticide I will discuss, and is by far the most effective ,and most used of the insecticides. It is extracted from the flowers of the pyrethrum chrysanthemum. Seeing as how the main ingredient in pyrethrum comes from Africa, it is hard to make at home and can be found commercially sold at retail nurseries(there are many types available so I will not mention any brand names). Being an insecticide with a wide array of uses, pyrethrum is very toxic to most insects, even those that are beneficial. When applied as a spray it can also be useful against flying insects. If the insect doesn't receive a large enough quantity, it may revive, so pyrethrum is usually combined with rotenone or ryania to ensure effectiveness. Pyrethrum should be used to spot spray only heavily infested plants. It is non-toxic to animals and humans, and is very effective when applied to your garden manually.
Most insecticides are usually available because they have some usefulness, but do not take this as a sign that they are all the same or even effective. Some homemade sprays can be just as effective as the most powerful commercial insecticides and is, in most cases less toxic. Always review all your choices before choosing a product and choose which will be better to use considering your garden size, pest problem and size of the infestation.
 

SmokeyMcSmokerton

New Member
Is pyrethrum, rotenone, or ryania dangerous to plants? I'm going today to get these if not. What is the best way to apply? I don't worry alot about complete organic, but don't want to harm my plants. I have some strange critters that came with my soil from the nursery. They aren't hurting plants yet....
 

scroglodyte

Well-Known Member
whatever they are they are hungry. check out organic bug juice recipe in my sig. see how they like that.
 

BigBuddahCheese

New Member
Sounds like thrips. Throw a no pest strip in by the fan to start.
Sure gas your entire crop with pesticide gas that the manufacture states on the package keep away from humans.. lol nice advice.

No pests strips emit a gas that literally will cover a 12x12 room, and they do work but place them outside your room not in it.
 

Faldikar

Active Member
ive used the pyrethrin sprays and foggers, youll want to make sure you dont spray your girls to the point that the leaves look wet, it doesnt take much. if you read the bottle on the spray it says to be about 4ft back from what youre spraying if i remember correctly. if used right it wont hurt the plants at all
 
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