c99 x Haze/Sativa

HeartlandHank

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Looking for some c99/apollo x haze/sativa... something like c99 x J Lambsbread... or apollo x Columbian Gold. You get the idea.
Anyone know who is making these sorts of crosses?
El Dorado
Mekong Haze
Thai
Original Haze... that sort of thing.
 

Clankie

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Looking for some c99/apollo x haze/sativa... something like c99 x J Lambsbread... or apollo x Columbian Gold. You get the idea.
Anyone know who is making these sorts of crosses?
El Dorado
Mekong Haze
Thai
Original Haze... that sort of thing.
Holy Princess from Breeder's Choice is c99 x Santa Maria (Planck cut) I have been dying to try it out.

I guess santa maria isn't really a long flowering sativa, but it does have a super uplifting cerebral kind of high. I too would be interested in a longer flowering sativa/c99 hybrid, and it seems weird that there's not some obvious ones out there.
 

HeartlandHank

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Holy Princess from Breeder's Choice is c99 x Santa Maria (Planck cut) I have been dying to try it out.

I guess santa maria isn't really a long flowering sativa, but it does have a super uplifting cerebral kind of high. I too would be interested in a longer flowering sativa/c99 hybrid, and it seems weird that there's not some obvious ones out there.
Very nice. That might be just what I am looking for. I had never heard of Planck cut before.
It does seem weird... It seems like the perfect solution to cutting flower times while keeping sativa dominance.
 

Medshed

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I have Eldorado and TGA's Apollo 13 BX in veg now. The sole purpose of this run is to cross the two. I guess that doesn't help you much a but thought I'd mention it. If you happen to live in CO, I'll gladly toss you some of the beans...
 

HeartlandHank

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I have Eldorado and TGA's Apollo 13 BX in veg now. The sole purpose of this run is to cross the two. I guess that doesn't help you much a but thought I'd mention it. If you happen to live in CO, I'll gladly toss you some of the beans...
I'm not in CO, I appreciate the thought though. Very kind.
That sounds like a nice cross. I hope to see some of that in action around here.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
check out the frost bro's work m8.. they have a few c'99 x's all made with bro's grimm stock..

or iron cindy from kingdom organic seeds.. here's the description for iron cindy, it's metal haze x c99 btw..

This is a poor mans’ Haze for sure with a relatively fast (9 weeks) flowering time indoors. Most real Haze will go for upwards of 16 weeks indoors. The Metal Haze female used in this cross dominates this hybrid for sure, and lends a true spacey side with some extra intensity potency-wise. The Iron Cindy delivers a very close version of a true Haze high at only 9 weeks, which rocks if you ask me; or Greenman420. He and I both agree that we like the Iron Cindy even more than the straight up Metal Haze. Get them while they last mi amigos! Truly a connoisseur variety, and highly unique.

Extremely stinky, growing, drying, curing, and carrying. Very Haze-like, with that “cat piss” side to the smells; flavors are spot on Haze I think. Make sure and cure this one for at least two weeks after drying for the most superb version of her flavors, smells, and potency.

Coastal outdoor growers, or those outdoor growers that battle mold issues, should likely not select this hybrid, or any Cinderella 99 pure or crosses, due to her well known weakness to molds. Inland and in dryer climates this one will be fine.
 

Medshed

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I'm not in CO, I appreciate the thought though. Very kind.
That sounds like a nice cross. I hope to see some of that in action around here.
I haven't been able to find many journals of Eldorado. I'll probably do one of this grow starting in the next couple weeks. Keep an eye on Subcool's forum if you want to follow along. I figured that would be a good place for it.
 

HeartlandHank

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check out the frost bro's work m8.. they have a few c'99 x's all made with bro's grimm stock..

or iron cindy from kingdom organic seeds.. here's the description for iron cindy, it's metal haze x c99 btw..

This is a poor mans’ Haze for sure with a relatively fast (9 weeks) flowering time indoors. Most real Haze will go for upwards of 16 weeks indoors. The Metal Haze female used in this cross dominates this hybrid for sure, and lends a true spacey side with some extra intensity potency-wise. The Iron Cindy delivers a very close version of a true Haze high at only 9 weeks, which rocks if you ask me; or Greenman420. He and I both agree that we like the Iron Cindy even more than the straight up Metal Haze. Get them while they last mi amigos! Truly a connoisseur variety, and highly unique.

Extremely stinky, growing, drying, curing, and carrying. Very Haze-like, with that “cat piss” side to the smells; flavors are spot on Haze I think. Make sure and cure this one for at least two weeks after drying for the most superb version of her flavors, smells, and potency.

Coastal outdoor growers, or those outdoor growers that battle mold issues, should likely not select this hybrid, or any Cinderella 99 pure or crosses, due to her well known weakness to molds. Inland and in dryer climates this one will be fine.
Thanks man. Whenever I have these "looking for ## x %%" threads, you usually are the man with the answer.
With my Apollo 11 from Joey Weed I never noticed problems with mold... that was pre bringing in outdoor air though. Good info.
 

HeartlandHank

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I haven't been able to find many journals of Eldorado. I'll probably do one of this grow starting in the next couple weeks. Keep an eye on Subcool's forum if you want to follow along. I figured that would be a good place for it.
Definitely will.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Thanks man. Whenever I have these "looking for ## x %%" threads, you usually are the man with the answer.
With my Apollo 11 from Joey Weed I never noticed problems with mold... that was pre bringing in outdoor air though. Good info.
thanks hank, i do what little i can..
 

hazey grapes

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Looking for some c99/apollo x haze/sativa... something like c99 x J Lambsbread... or apollo x Columbian Gold. You get the idea.
Anyone know who is making these sorts of crosses?
El Dorado
Mekong Haze
Thai
Original Haze... that sort of thing.
jack herer is like a C99 haze. actually, C99 is bred from herer, but it's not that psychoactive, at least in joey weed's version. C99 is clearheaded and racy. it wouldn't add any psychoactivity to a haze, but might make it racier and jumpier.

mekong haze is supposed to be extra trippy, but get a heating mat if you want to pop that. i and another grower couldn't get it to pop. it's not really a haze. it's a cross of 2 different cambodians.

malawi gold is extra trippy like a haze. holy smokes and ace both have it. i got a look at holy smoke's version only in early flowering and it seemed promising. sadly, it got burned and i had to cut it down early.

if you want sativas that are legit and not watered down, ace, and gage green both get thumbs ups for their landraces and world of seeds and holy smokes have some landraces too. i still have a couple WoS's columbian x 25% NL5 to test, but ace and/or gage green have a couple pure columbians, ace has panama too that's one member here's favorite. ace has some thai and crosses, but uses a meo thai where sativa seed's uses tutti fruity highland thai. it can hermie though. i don't want to waste time on that one unti; i have a head stash.

mandala's satori is supposed to be good too.

for sativa dominant hybrids, TGA subcool's jack's cleaner 2 is my favorite high for real visuals. it's a little stony, but no worse than middy. i like it a lot more than C99. their jack the ripper should be even more energetic and trippy and one member here really likes their third dimension which is next on my shopping list. as one member put it... TS' sativas are legit and get you high and their indicas are potent too.

sannies too has nice hybrids. their killing fields should be as good or even better than JtR on the trippy front, but they also have a top quality jack f7 and their jack hammer (jack herer and amnesia haze) should be nice and trippy too as they suggested it to me personally when i inquired about trippy strains other than KF.

on the cheap front, high quality seeds' haze x skunk is potent and a real long lasting high that doesn't turn stony even after a month. it's not the trippiest of tastiest haze, but it compares favorably to columbian gold for what it does indoors in 12 weeks.

for fruity type hazes, DNA's 9 week sweet haze isn't shabby. it's trippier than more watered down generic hazes that are clear headed like C99. it's stretchy like a land race, but 9 weeks is quick and LRs aren't going to have big sticky buds like that. i would imagine ace's 17-24 week old timer's (purple) haze is trippier, but that's about twice as long a wait for your weight. if you want the trippiest and most potent sativas, 12 weeks+ and stretchy is where you get that last 10-20% better THC over the best indoor hybrids.

the strains in my signature are the best 4 i've tried so far. 8 miles high is mellower with a balanced energy buzz that isn't racy or stony. it has light psychoactivity, but not trippy visuals but lots of euphoria and precise body control perfect for dancing or sports etc., but you can chill out on it too. i can't wait until it comes back, but satori's probably better. that and ace golden tiger are one member's top 2 faves.

dinafem is really proud of their trippy JYD haze used in their super critical haze hybrid. less than 50% critical would be nice. a lot of breeders do 50:50 haze crosses with critical, blueberry (blue dream), skunk #1, NL5, C13, G13, mango and so on. you'd need to research each breeder's offering though to see if they started with a legit haze and if the indica in the hybrid doesn't dominate. i tried asking for comparisons and got nada for the trouble.

hope something here helps. rock on growing for highs. hope you find a bunch of new faves.
 

Totoe

Well-Known Member
If you decide to go with the holy princess from dynasty, I will tell you this, I am running esko's planck cut santa maria right now and it is a Cal freak. so make sure you got plenty. It was seriously a couple weeks in flower and started showing def.
 

HeartlandHank

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jack herer is like a C99 haze. actually, C99 is bred from herer, but it's not that psychoactive, at least in joey weed's version. C99 is clearheaded and racy. it wouldn't add any psychoactivity to a haze, but might make it racier and jumpier.

mekong haze is supposed to be extra trippy, but get a heating mat if you want to pop that. i and another grower couldn't get it to pop. it's not really a haze. it's a cross of 2 different cambodians.

malawi gold is extra trippy like a haze. holy smokes and ace both have it. i got a look at holy smoke's version only in early flowering and it seemed promising. sadly, it got burned and i had to cut it down early.

if you want sativas that are legit and not watered down, ace, and gage green both get thumbs ups for their landraces and world of seeds and holy smokes have some landraces too. i still have a couple WoS's columbian x 25% NL5 to test, but ace and/or gage green have a couple pure columbians, ace has panama too that's one member here's favorite. ace has some thai and crosses, but uses a meo thai where sativa seed's uses tutti fruity highland thai. it can hermie though. i don't want to waste time on that one unti; i have a head stash.

mandala's satori is supposed to be good too.

for sativa dominant hybrids, TGA subcool's jack's cleaner 2 is my favorite high for real visuals. it's a little stony, but no worse than middy. i like it a lot more than C99. their jack the ripper should be even more energetic and trippy and one member here really likes their third dimension which is next on my shopping list. as one member put it... TS' sativas are legit and get you high and their indicas are potent too.

sannies too has nice hybrids. their killing fields should be as good or even better than JtR on the trippy front, but they also have a top quality jack f7 and their jack hammer (jack herer and amnesia haze) should be nice and trippy too as they suggested it to me personally when i inquired about trippy strains other than KF.

on the cheap front, high quality seeds' haze x skunk is potent and a real long lasting high that doesn't turn stony even after a month. it's not the trippiest of tastiest haze, but it compares favorably to columbian gold for what it does indoors in 12 weeks.

for fruity type hazes, DNA's 9 week sweet haze isn't shabby. it's trippier than more watered down generic hazes that are clear headed like C99. it's stretchy like a land race, but 9 weeks is quick and LRs aren't going to have big sticky buds like that. i would imagine ace's 17-24 week old timer's (purple) haze is trippier, but that's about twice as long a wait for your weight. if you want the trippiest and most potent sativas, 12 weeks+ and stretchy is where you get that last 10-20% better THC over the best indoor hybrids.

the strains in my signature are the best 4 i've tried so far. 8 miles high is mellower with a balanced energy buzz that isn't racy or stony. it has light psychoactivity, but not trippy visuals but lots of euphoria and precise body control perfect for dancing or sports etc., but you can chill out on it too. i can't wait until it comes back, but satori's probably better. that and ace golden tiger are one member's top 2 faves.

dinafem is really proud of their trippy JYD haze used in their super critical haze hybrid. less than 50% critical would be nice. a lot of breeders do 50:50 haze crosses with critical, blueberry (blue dream), skunk #1, NL5, C13, G13, mango and so on. you'd need to research each breeder's offering though to see if they started with a legit haze and if the indica in the hybrid doesn't dominate. i tried asking for comparisons and got nada for the trouble.

hope something here helps. rock on growing for highs. hope you find a bunch of new faves.
Wow. A ton of info. Thank you. I'll read through it again to absorb.

Jack Herer pretty much sounds like what I was looking for. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that.

I have a 12-14 week Extra Hazey SSH plant from Beanho, crossed from Mr Nice stock. Also a 9 week SSH from the same pack. I am selecting a Killing Fields F3 Reg mother from a group of 6 females right now. Perhaps the killing fields will fulfill the need for some Jack H.

I suppose I am looking for something to compliment these well. Also something that can please both sides. The indica/hybrid needs as well as the Sativa needs. Something 10 wks or less. 9, perfect.
Sweet Haze sounds appealing. So does the Iron Cindy I have been looking into. I am definitely picking up Dr Greenthumb c99. Another c99 cross or watered down haze to run along with it while selecting would be good.

I had Joey Weed Apollo 11. I held 4 nice mother plants for a while, but the yield left some to desire. I slimmed down to 1, the raciest and most cerebral. I lost that plant with my first root aphid experience. Those buggers really set me back.

Started a Journal for the KF F3 Reg selection process. 6 females from the pack.
The Journal is in the early stage at the moment but the cuts are set to flower in a few weeks.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/583110-dr-greenthumb-g13-sannies-killing.html
 

hazey grapes

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I have a 12-14 week Extra Hazey SSH plant from Beanho
oooh! oooh! ooooh! oooh! just the man i should ask... how's that beanho super silver haze? i have my eye on their SSH 1 X PCK as it's supposed to be both trippy and cherry flavored. i get the impression that the breeder is legit as i see the name dropped from time to time. really, $25 to test a strain though is pocket change, but any lowdown you can share about your experience with them is appreciated.

i know what you mean about info, it can be hard to come by even when you beg and plead for it. i USED TO despise getting stoned as especially in NYS, everything is afghani only without so much as a blueberry for flavor and stony skunk #1 was actually a TREAT when i was getting that direct from a grower i ran across through his cousin. i literally asked so many times for ANYONE to give an acceptable answer to just how stony A11 & SSH were in long gone overgrow, that i started pissing people off as they too were pissing me off by never directly answering my questions, so i've made comparing strains that get you high as well as researching them as best as possible a mission. for THAT, it seems that i piss the cash crapper crowd that wants to suppress that info off as they're always trying to discredit me with a mix of lies, and my own admitted truths about my own failings and mishaps. whenever i know i've helped someone find a decent strain they can get high for real on in a world that it doesn't happen in on the streets, i feel better... pushing back against the afghanicrap monopoly one grower at a time. i'm STILL always looking for better strains, and still never getting questions answered like:
what are the differences between NL5, skunk #1, critical +, blueberry, G13, C13, & afghani etc. haze crosses? all i KNOW from experience is haze skunk isn't shabby and, unlike even columbian gold could, doesn't turn stony even after it builds up in your system. i'd like to find something even better. if i had a legit haze like the JYD cutting dinafem uses, i KNOW jack's cleaner 2 x haze would be off the charts sick and spank haze skunk in the trippiness department because skunk #1 ain't psychoactive as i expect the other strains commonly used in crosses aren't either.

if my holy smokes malawi gold lives up to it's rep for trippiness that "hazes" typically don't these days, that crossed with JC2 should be awesome. super silver haze and especially jack herer seems to be the logical choices for haze crosses.

i like C99, but it's too clear headed and racy. it's as 1 dimensional as afghani, OK, it has euphoria too, but what fun is being high if you're too amped up to chill out to tunes or a movie? it's the perfect strain to blaze before work or running a marathon, but not as 24/7 friendly as "stonier" but functional JC2 and CH9 jack. i can't wait to test sannie's jack f7 and see if it's even more motivational and trippy than cleaner 2, which is more than good enough to put a smile on my face where just getting stoned only pisses me off. i was soooooooooo pissed off the 1st time i smoked 2 different indicas weighing up to 3 grams for the $8 i had in my pocket. a year before the drought, i was getting imported columbian gold for $40 a quarter, but no matter how much i smoked of that red hair & skunk, i wasn't getting high at all, just tired and more pissed off despite the weight deal i got. when i saw that shit hit the streets for $50 an effing EIGTH, i despised it as i have since the 80s.

nowadays though, i appreciate a nice balanced buzz that has some stone to balance sativa twitchiness if the fun psychoactivity effects are present too. if jack's cleaner 2 were around in the 80s, people would still be getting high now. i don't think neville's haze even hit the market until the late 80s. i know i was pissed that "skunk #1" was the closest thing to thai (that's what everyone was calling columbian) in my 1st super sativa (NOT!) seed club catalogue. i KNEW kees was full of crap when he tried selling skunk #1 on me as acceptable.

"bag appeal" is a MYTH. it's shell game propaganda to distract you from the fact the shit doesn't get you high! scrawny, fluffy, peach fuzz columbian gold that tastes like a literal common field weed is the exact opposite of "bag appeal" in almost every way, but i defy anyone to blaze it and complain about it when 4x one hitters will fuck you up and make the room start spinning! potency has little to do with the size of resin glands if you have a pure THC profile. then again, i'd rather smoke mexican brick, even *gag* stealthed with castor oil, than the stickiest indica any cash crapper is proud of every time.

votes that PROVE most people like getting high more than stoned are always appreciated here
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/574378-do-you-prefer-getting-high.html
where, so far, not a SINGLE VOTE in favor of the afghanicrap that pollutes so many streets has been cast with only 1 in 5 preferring a mild stone with ~ 40% each preferring mids, or getting high. i started the thread as STFU artillery for all those trash talking haters that defend their stoner bud that no one actually wants.


 

althor

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Wow. A ton of info. Thank you. I'll read through it again to absorb.

Jack Herer pretty much sounds like what I was looking for. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that.

I have a 12-14 week Extra Hazey SSH plant from Beanho, crossed from Mr Nice stock. Also a 9 week SSH from the same pack. I am selecting a Killing Fields F3 Reg mother from a group of 6 females right now. Perhaps the killing fields will fulfill the need for some Jack H.

I suppose I am looking for something to compliment these well. Also something that can please both sides. The indica/hybrid needs as well as the Sativa needs. Something 10 wks or less. 9, perfect.
Sweet Haze sounds appealing. So does the Iron Cindy I have been looking into. I am definitely picking up Dr Greenthumb c99. Another c99 cross or watered down haze to run along with it while selecting would be good.

I had Joey Weed Apollo 11. I held 4 nice mother plants for a while, but the yield left some to desire. I slimmed down to 1, the raciest and most cerebral. I lost that plant with my first root aphid experience. Those buggers really set me back.

Started a Journal for the KF F3 Reg selection process. 6 females from the pack.
The Journal is in the early stage at the moment but the cuts are set to flower in a few weeks.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/583110-dr-greenthumb-g13-sannies-killing.html

Just keep in mind, just because he types awhole hell of a lot, its full of false information. Dont believe everything you read, dont believe anything you read by Hazey grapes.
 

HeartlandHank

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oooh! oooh! ooooh! oooh! just the man i should ask... how's that beanho super silver haze? i have my eye on their SSH 1 X PCK as it's supposed to be both trippy and cherry flavored. i get the impression that the breeder is legit as i see the name dropped from time to time. really, $25 to test a strain though is pocket change, but any lowdown you can share about your experience with them is appreciated.

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/super-silver-haze/10326-super-silver-haze-1-x-super-silver-haze-2-bean-ho.html

There are some good pictures of the SSH1 x SSH2 pack that I was talking about. It got me the 12-14wk ssh and the 9 wk ssh. Above is not a thorough report. Just some snaps 3 wks or so before harvest. I suspect that the 12-14wk in that thread is a very good representation of BeanHo's SSH 1.

BeanHo is totally legit... Don't let his prices throw you off. One of the reasons they are so cheap is because that he is running a seedbank... so instead of selling his Seeds for 60 at attitude he can just sell them through his own bank for 30, making the same profit. And then, you know, basically he is just hoarding seeds and selections and chucking pollen. Good shit though.

SSH 1 is his 12-14 wk SSH. Super Hazey.
SSH 2 is his 9 wk "classic" SSH plant.
I feel like I found a good representation of both the Father and Mother. (SSH1 and SSH2)
I see that he is not currently breeding with his SSH2. It is a great plant. My girls personal favorite.

I know nothing about the PCK, but my 12-14 SSH is pretty good stuff. It gets a little psycha d when you smoke a bit... One friend said daytime while driving it is like "being in a video game". It's a little speedy too. There is def some amp there. I need something to do after smoking it.
The yields are excellent! Long spear shaped colas. Managing the height can be a task... but it sounds like you already know all about that business. It never stops growing. At some point you just have to harvest even though there is a bit of white pistiled new growth.... I just use that stuff in edibles.

You can harvest right at 12 weeks if everything goes perfectly... but my last one went to 14wks. Then, you know, there isn't much density to it... I don't mind though. I like not having to break up to smoke... just rip off a chunk and throw it in or roll it up.

The 9 wk smells super cat pissy and a little bit lemony... the 12-14wk is all faint lemon. It's sort of a soapy lemon smell. Smoke is "devastatingly smooth". You can really take a pull from the bong and keep a straight face... but you know... you'll be feeling it. It's pretty functioning in small amounts. But you can start to get a little confused in the head if you really smoke on it.

I do like some indica/sativa hybrids... I've been loving Green Crack... buckets of indica like buds with a fair amount of Sativa "go get it done", but some indica too, to chill.

Another one, that reminds me of Green Crack, is Juicy Fruit aka Fruity Juice. Skunk crosses, basically.
 

HeartlandHank

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Just keep in mind, just because he types awhole hell of a lot, its full of false information. Dont believe everything you read, dont believe anything you read by Hazey grapes.
I take anything anyone says with a grain of salt. I still find their opinion to be helpful. Get an idea of who you are talking to and you can answer your own questions with some "tweeks".

You batshit crazy conservatives though.... Haha. Just playing.
 
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