california medical plant limit, mixing mature and immature plants?

squirrelfooker

Active Member
Under california law you are allowed 6 mature OR 12 immature plants with a valid recommendation.

What about mixing those numbers?

Can you have 4 mature and 4 immature? 5 mature and 7 immature? Anyone know where to find this out?
 

pacman

Well-Known Member
or at least that was the impression i was under, i only find myself over by one or two a few days max, id say dont risk it
 

GrowTech

stays relevant.
I've never personally seen criteria for mixing numbers... Also, plant limits vary by location, so you could grow many many more depending on where you live. Also, if you are assigned as caregiver for another patient, you can grow an additional amount of plants for THEM. :) I do believe you must be in the same county though.
 

squirrelfooker

Active Member
I've never personally seen criteria for mixing numbers... Also, plant limits vary by location, so you could grow many many more depending on where you live. Also, if you are assigned as caregiver for another patient, you can grow an additional amount of plants for THEM. :) I do believe you must be in the same county though.
I'm planning to stick to what california sb420 says, which is the 6 mature or 12 immature limit. It seems to be the accepted limit when it comes to LEO and court.

From what I can find there is no official definition when it comes to mixing the two. Anyone know any court cases that involved this? What do you other ca med users do? I want to have as many in flower as possible while still having clones vegging. I'm thinking 4 flower, 4 veg, 1 mother (so 5 veg) for a total of 9 plants. But i can find nothing official to say this would be accepted.
 

dhhbomb

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the way i see it is 6 in the flowering stage of 12 and 12 and 12 plants in the veg but i have never worried about it i figure if the cops came in and said that i had to many i could claim i thought i was aloud 18 being how the law seem kinda vage don think i spelled that right
 

GrowGreenGreen

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I've pondered this as well. I think what it will come down to is how a judge might interpret the "OR"--which is clearly in the language of the law--as meaning something like and/or (you could have up to 6 and 12, but never more of either), or possibly interpret it as AND, meaning you can have 6 flowering plants. Or, if those plants are not mature enough to flower, you can have 12, so that you can kill the weakest 6 at flowering time. Then again he could take it literally and say, you start with 12 you flower with 6. Then you can start over. This literal interpretation, taken with the limit of 8 ounces of cured bud in any one location, would in effect limit the amount of weed a law-abiding medi-grower could produce, so as not to flood the market or permit him to make too much money off of its sales.

I like the And/or interpretation.

Maybe the lawmakers only thought outdoors though. Maybe they didn't consider that you could even HAVE 6 plants flowering while others were only a month into veg. I mean, that's not the way plants work is it? Or our plants I guess I should say? Maybe a compassionate judge could easily set a precedent for loose interpretation of OR, to mean "Or, if they aren't flowering," 12. And leave the rest of the debate off the table (18 total OK if in diff growth stages?). Or perhaps he'd just say, well, it looks like a half and half kinda thing. So if you have 3 flowering (or half the limit) you could have half the vegging plants, or 6. Clones? What's a vegging plant? Seedling? how many can I have? 1000? I guess since seed possession is a felony, it's moot.

Sticky one. Heh.
 

dhhbomb

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yea well i want to have a like 4 different strains of mothers and then clone whatever i want in the amounts of my favorite strain and figure if i am in court talking with a judge i will deal with it and tell them i misuderstood the law and thought since i had plants that were not going to produce usible bud but i have grown well over the limits and i figure ill still be in better standing than someone is a state where they dont have medical marijuana but i figure fuck it ill grow and if i get caught then il deal with it but i do recall someone on this site have the word for word law of a judges interpetation i just cant rember what it said
 

squirrelfooker

Active Member
Here's the text from SB420


11362.77. (a) A qualified patient or primary caregiver may possess no more than eight ounces of dried marijuana per qualified patient. In addition, a qualified patient or primary caregiver may also maintain no more than six mature or 12 immature marijuana plants per qualified patient.

"no more than six mature or 12 immature" is kind of hard to interpret.
 

Inthesmoke

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"no more than six mature or 12 immature"

No more then 6 plants with buds and the remaining plants up to 12 total can have zero buds. Thats how it was explained to me by my medical marijuana co. op.
 

squirrelfooker

Active Member
sb420 has been overturned by the senate appeals court of california as being unconstitutional.....
Yes it has.
Although alot of counties still seem to use those limits. Norml still lists them. My counties website still uses "6 mature or 12 immature". So since that seems to be what is still enforced, that's what i plan to go by. Now if i can just figure out exactly what it means. I may end up giving the county DA office a call.
 

Zig Zag Zane

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Yes it has.
Although alot of counties still seem to use those limits. Norml still lists them. My counties website still uses "6 mature or 12 immature". So since that seems to be what is still enforced, that's what i plan to go by. Now if i can just figure out exactly what it means. I may end up giving the county DA office a call.
look bro, if your legal patient, and ur not being an asshole growing 100 plants in your yard and shit, then you pretty much got nuthin to worry about, the cops have gone to my dads house before, and he was over the limit by a lil bit so they just took the extra plants ...but left us wit our medicine and didnt take any legal supercop action or nuthin lol I just grow like 15 or so all at once, and wutever turns out to be female...i leave...so im usually barley over the very very vague and unexplained limit LOL
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
Under california law you are allowed 6 mature OR 12 immature plants with a valid recommendation.

What about mixing those numbers?

Can you have 4 mature and 4 immature? 5 mature and 7 immature? Anyone know where to find this out?
you can have 12 plants total 6 of which can be in bud. the other 6 better not have buds on them.
 

SCORPIO13

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This was a question I had as well. So when I took my friend to get his card on Saturday I asked and you can have a total of 18 plants. 6 in the flowering cycle and 12 in the veg cycle. The thing to do if you know someone with a medical card. Make them your caregiver and they could make you thier caregiver and you can leagly double the amount you can grow. This is what my friend and I are doing.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
This was a question I had as well. So when I took my friend to get his card on Saturday I asked and you can have a total of 18 plants. 6 in the flowering cycle and 12 in the veg cycle. The thing to do if you know someone with a medical card. Make them your caregiver and they could make you thier caregiver and you can leagly double the amount you can grow. This is what my friend and I are doing.
you better ceck into that. that means you are growing 12 plants. 12 for you and 12 for the cargiver. thats not leagul sorry. cuz your only alowed 6 plants in flower per card, not 12 plants per cargiver
 

SCORPIO13

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I am not sure if it will work or not. I just read up on this yesterday so I am looking more into it. Trying to find the correct way to go about this. I do know that you can have 6 flowering and 12 vegging.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
I am not sure if it will work or not. I just read up on this yesterday so I am looking more into it. Trying to find the correct way to go about this. I do know that you can have 6 flowering and 12 vegging.
correct but a patiant that is their own grower can not grow their own plants and make you their cargiver and you also grow 6 plants for them. sorry thats not how it works. with it was though. now as long as they arn't growing for themselves and your their their cargiver then yes you can. :hump:
 

squirrelfooker

Active Member
From what I've been able to find these seem to be the most common interpretations:

12 plants total, 6 in flowering and 12 in veg

18 plants total, 6 in the flowering cycle and 12 in the veg cycle

Looks like either one of these would be safe, since there doesn't seem to be a court case i can find to set a precedent for which is the answer. If you live in an area that's ok with mmj the police seem to just kill the plants they think is over the limit and not press charges.
 

SCORPIO13

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Thanks for the info mygirls. + rep I just got my card in January and am still figuring out all the laws that surround medical marijuana. I do know one thing though, growing it has been more addicting than smoking it. It has become my new passion.
 
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