Can I use 100% organics soil+nutes with a synthetic foliar?

Before I start, sorry if this is a mega ramble, I am sooooper stoned and it's only 4:50pm so not even near dinnner time yet...

Right so i've been growing organically for a few years now, and I love it so much, I use PM soil supreme, OT nutes + additives, and also have plagron bat guano and worm castings mixed in my soil. Oh also mixed in bactrex, myccotrex, startex (look up biotabs.eu) and some other such organic shit which is basically just various forms of mycorrhizae and other good bacteria. (I work in a grow shop so i get LOOOADS of free shit!)
So I have pretty much never had a problem with defficiency or bad pH or really any of that, I've always assumed that was just cos that's how organics (speshly premade soil mixes!) are rather than that i'm some kinda prodigal weed guru.
Right now i'm in a new set up in a new house and I have a GHS trainwrech and a BF blue cheese. (The blue cheese was a clone, the TW from seed).

The blue cheese is being a fussy little shit, I kinda knew this was gonna be the case cos i had got the cutting off a friend who has grown it out a few times from the mother.
AAANYWAYSES it's clearly got a cal mag issue, not terminal but potentially getting worse. I should mention I am in a hardwater area, i have the old formula PM OT but it should be fine for hard water.
Basically the situation is I have a bottle of Magne Cal+ by PM, and i'm pretty sure this isn't organic. I have also been given sample bottles of 'Uber' a new (I think?) line of synthetic nutes which i obviously am not gonna use, HOWEVER, one of the bottles is a product called F-D-S (foliar delivery system) - basically a wetting agent i think - but its main selling point is that you can spray during lights on withouot any negative effects. This is useful to me.

Now, my actual question: If i were to mix up a bit of this synthetic cal mag and foliar delivery system and use it as a foliar spray will I be able to use it and not affect the micro-herd in my soil? This is invaluable to me and I would rather let it deal with a bit of Cal mag deficiency then murder my whole root zone.
Wanted some other people's opinions to mull over.

PS. I have no money for about the next week so I can't buy any new products atm, i'm literally just asking for info on my specific situation rather than alternative organic products.
PPS. Don't abuse me cos I work in a grow shop, i'm not one of those dickheads who tries to sell you loads of unnecessary crap with shady bullshit to back it up, really i'm a double agent, one of you guys working behind enemy lines, who also takes advantage of free experience, free samples and wholesale pricing

One final note, one of the free sample packs I received recently that i've been using is the Microbe Life Hydroponics natural and organic range, it isn't nutes it's various micro-beneficiaries and bacteria, and I can tell you as an organic grower this shit is great, the photosynthesis plus product - just so fucking good, I don't know if it's in shops yet, but if it is get that shit! http://www.microbelifehydro.com/products/hydroponics/natural-and-organic/

THANKS IN ADVANCE, sorry if you have to make any translations from stonedenese, I am far too of the aforementioned to read this back and I have already totally forgotten the wording I used. thats UK Cheese for ya eh

Oh if anyone has used anything by Uber let me know, i'd be interested to see what they're like - obv not for my bud, I would never put chemical shit that I don't even know what it is near that but I might use it on some non organic regime tomato + pepper plants at work to see what it does. I only wanna know purely from a knowledge point of view, I don't trust any plant food company whose motto is "PUNISH THEM". Just seems UBER STooPID to me!

The range they do is:
Ubber Pyyro K (flowering booster)
R-N-A foliar feed (meant to fuck with the plant's genes. I mean SERIOUSLY?? who wants to do that, sounds fucked)
F-D-S (wetting agent basically but meant to have some chemicals or whatever that make uptake faster and allow you to spray when the lights are on)
Hi Q - now this is one i think is mega shady - you're meant to spray it on FOLIAR for the LAST WEEK OF FLOWER. Mental who wants to smoke that shit! It's apparently a form of vit c that can be absorbed by the plant preserving its essential oils making it taste better but A, who wants to smoke something covered in chemicals(F-D-S+Hi Q) and B, surely that shit will taste rank.
Sorry this is posted in the wrong section as I know i'm no longer talking organics, just wanted it linked to the relevant question I asked...
Anyone's interested here's the website, but as is the norm they give you shit all real info as to what's in anything. http://www.ubergrow.com/

I don't know what any of those bottled products you listed are, so I can't comment on that... But, I do know a thing or two about organic gardening. Do you have more of those worm castings? If they are high quality castings (most sold in stores are not...), they should be loaded with plant-available calcium, and also plenty of magnesium. Lay down an inch of so of castings on top of your soil and water thoroughly. That should fix you right up.

There are plenty of ways to solve a cal or mag deficiency without spraying unknown crap on your plants. Eggshells+vinegar can be turned into a potent calcium supplement. Epsom salt is OK'd for organic production; it'll solve a magnesium deficiency quickly.

I have no idea.
I do not think it could, especially if it does not hit the soil.

I just got a Blue Cheese clone last Wednesday and it is being fussy.
It is in perfect conditions right next to a thriving Thai Lights clone.
I'm going to spray it with some aloe/protek/liquid karma foliar feed and see if that helps.
I may add in some GO calmag

+1 on the epsom salt.

I'd start with 1 tsp/gal. give em a good soaking. and see if it gets better in a few days, then go from there.

There's plenty of info on using epsom salt.

I use organic based calmag. my dirt loves it.

SpicySativa said:

I don't know what any of those bottled products you listed are, so I can't comment on that... But, I do know a thing or two about organic gardening. Do you have more of those worm castings? If they are high quality castings (most sold in stores are not...), they should be loaded with plant-available calcium, and also plenty of magnesium. Lay down an inch of so of castings on top of your soil and water thoroughly. That should fix you right up.

There are plenty of ways to solve a cal or mag deficiency without spraying unknown crap on your plants. Eggshells+vinegar can be turned into a potent calcium supplement. Epsom salt is OK'd for organic production; it'll solve a magnesium deficiency quickly.

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Thats real useful eggshells and vinegar, is the vinegar used as a wetting agent or something? I'll give that a go tho, i'm pretty sure there's a thread somewhere mentioning how to prepare the egg shells. thanks!

Trousers said:

I have no idea.
I do not think it could, especially if it does not hit the soil.

I just got a Blue Cheese clone last Wednesday and it is being fussy.
It is in perfect conditions right next to a thriving Thai Lights clone.
I'm going to spray it with some aloe/protek/liquid karma foliar feed and see if that helps.
I may add in some GO calmag

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Yeah it is much fussier than anything i've grown before, I've seen it right till harvest in my mates room and it was high maintenence till the end compared to everything else in there. Also having looked round on here Cal Mag seems to be quite a common problem for the blue cheese - can't say i've ever had that problem with anything before

dubcoastOGs said:

+1 on the epsom salt.

I'd start with 1 tsp/gal. give em a good soaking. and see if it gets better in a few days, then go from there.

There's plenty of info on using epsom salt.

I use organic based calmag. my dirt loves it.

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cool what organic based calmag is that?

Directions for the eggshell calcium supplement are all over the web. A simple google search will find that one for you. And this isn't some MJ-specific pseudo scientific method. It's a tried-and-true organic method that's been used for longer than any of us have been alive.

anoos said:

cool what organic based calmag is that?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/200797640614?lpid=82

I don't foliar spray with it though. I generally give 0.5-1tsp/gal

SpicySativa said:

Directions for the eggshell calcium supplement are all over the web. A simple google search will find that one for you. And this isn't some MJ-specific pseudo scientific method. It's a tried-and-true organic method that's been used for longer than any of us have been alive.

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Yeah googled and found the required info on that, thanks. However am I not wrong in thinking it would be unusual to have a cal mag deficiency in an area with really hard water? I'm pretty sure it is calcium deficiency specifically...

Kelp meal has calcium too. Its a great nutrient accumulater. Also has potassium, nitrogen, iron, zinc, sulfur, magnanese, and amino acids. Fungi feed off it too.

dubcoastOGs said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/200797640614?lpid=82

I don't foliar spray with it though. I generally give 0.5-1tsp/gal

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cool I dunno if I can find that in the UK but i'll bear it in mind, always on the hunt for organic supplements

hyroot what do you mean by a nutrient accumulator? I'm pretty sure some of the PM additives are made from/contain kelp...

Nutrient accumulators are plants that gather and store nutrients from the soil (or from nitrogen-fixing bacteria, in the case of legumes). Plant matter from nutrient accumulators is very nutritious, and is an excellent addition to compost. Nettles, comfrey, dandelions, kelp, legumes, etc, etc...

anoos said:

Yeah googled and found the required info on that, thanks. However am I not wrong in thinking it would be unusual to have a cal mag deficiency in an area with really hard water? I'm pretty sure it is calcium deficiency specifically...

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Cations interfere with each other. Too much of one cation can reduce the availability of others, even if they are both present in sufficient quantities.

Can you post a pic? It's possible it isn't a Cal Mag issue at all...

If I upload it straight from my iphone will rollitup remove the metatags and shit or should i process it on my computatoralizer first?
I was researching how plants uptake nutrients using cations and anions, a very interesting read indeed - I just wish my short term memory was less rubbish.
Anyways yeah is ok to just post a pic without messing with it then? I am LAAY-ZEEE and would rather not go through the extra steps if possible.

wow I sound like a noob, I just haven't ever uploaded pics from an iPhone before and i don't trust those sneaky privacy raping bastards

anoos said:

If I upload it straight from my iphone will rollitup remove the metatags and shit or should i process it on my computatoralizer first?
I was researching how plants uptake nutrients using cations and anions, a very interesting read indeed - I just wish my short term memory was less rubbish.
Anyways yeah is ok to just post a pic without messing with it then? I am LAAY-ZEEE and would rather not go through the extra steps if possible.

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Can't help you, there (I'm no computer guru, either...). I'm compliant with the laws of my state, so I'm less worried about it.

You lucky son of a gun we need some new legislation in England to get with the times... Meh i'll just upload it anyways, whats the worst that can happen, po po probs not gonna beat down my door for 2 tiny plants and a 250w light even if they do see it. Give us a min then mate and i'll put some pics up.