Canna coco nutrients?

EH40veg

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Hey my plants are coming on 2/3 weeks old and just transplanted them into medium size pots. Was wondering if anyone else uses the Canna line up I’ve been using the Coco A&B but now that the plants have some good roots formed should I use the rhizotonic/ cannazym.

Just wanted to check on here to see if anyone else uses the additives and what they think and if I should start to use them now? Picture of nutrients and plants attached.
 

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Cream/City/Crumble

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After i buffer my coco w/ calcium nitrate, I mix the coco with compost, worm castings, perlite, bone meal, blood meal, garden lime and a lil bit of gypsum and dont add anything until the flowering stage when i add a lil phosphorus the 1st and 4th week.
Ive had issues with liquid fertilizers & Coco. Coco loves to hold its salts, between that and my inexperience with the medium (2 years ago) i hermied my entire 15 plants.
Now i wouldnt grow in anything but the mix i listed. Ill give you the recipe if you like. Others have had really great results with it too.
 

EH40veg

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After i buffer my coco w/ calcium nitrate, I mix the coco with compost, worm castings, perlite, bone meal, blood meal, garden lime and a lil bit of gypsum and dont add anything until the flowering stage when i add a lil phosphorus the 1st and 4th week.
Ive had issues with liquid fertilizers & Coco. Coco loves to hold its salts, between that and my inexperience with the medium (2 years ago) i hermied my entire 15 plants.
Now i wouldnt grow in anything but the mix i listed. Ill give you the recipe if you like. Others have had really great results with it too.
That would be appreciated if you would send that over mate, but yeah I’m quite new to coco just learning does the runoff not tend to get rid of the salt? But yeah that is unfortunate, guess you learn from your mistakes
 

bursto

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definitely use the rhizotonic for root development, they still need more time imo
and the canazyme is to break down old roots and keep diseases out of the medium
 
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bursto

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Thanks mate do you have an idea of what ratio I should use to litre water?
what size container do you normally mix up you nutes in
says 20mls per 10l on the feed chart then only 5 mls after going 12/12
cannazyme is 25ml / 10ltrs throughout the grow
 
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EH40veg

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what size container do you normally mix up you nutes in
says 20mls per 10l on the feed chart then only 5 mls after going 12/12
cannazyme is 25ml / 10ltrs throughout the grow
Got a 14L bucket but only feeding them about 500ml per plant so 4 litres, but thanks do you think that would be a bit strong or should I just go with their recommended doses?
 

bursto

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Got a 14L bucket but only feeding them about 500ml per plant so 4 litres, but thanks do you think that would be a bit strong or should I just go with their recommended doses?
i would draw a line on the outside at ten ltrs and go with the recommended dose of both plus the coco a and b, just check the ph with the test dye and adjust to 5.5 a light orange colour
 

Cream/City/Crumble

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That would be appreciated if you would send that over mate, but yeah I’m quite new to coco just learning does the runoff not tend to get rid of the salt? But yeah that is unfortunate, guess you learn from your mistakes
Try for 20% runoff on every watering, and also make sure you buffer your coco. Recipe coming right up
 

Cream/City/Crumble

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11 lbs dry Coco Coir seperated to make16gals. Rinse seperated coco well.

Take 10 gallons of water and add 2 oz. Of Calcium Nitrate, & ½ oz. Magnesium sulfate, mix until totally dissolved pour over coco

Soak Coco overnight in calcium/magnesium solution, drain, and rinse well

Add 20qts (5 gals) of Land and sea organic compost (prefered but any organic compost will do)

Add 20 qts medium to course perlite

Add 5Qts (6lb bag) Worm Castings

Add:
Blood Meal 4½ cups
Bone meal 3 cups
Garden Lime 2 cups
Gypsum 1½ cup
(Everyone of these can be purchased from amazon Total cost is about $80)

Makes 25 Gallons of Substrate @
- 64% Coco Coir
- 20% Organic compost
- 10% Perlite
- 5% Worm castings
- 1% Amendments
I usually let it sit for 2 weeks but ive used it immediately also, and haven't noticed a difference.

*Do not add anything during veg unless absolutly necessary! brown spots, yellowing, etc. then just a little Cal-Mag (2ml per gallon of water for 2 waterings)*

This mixture takes your plants all the way through flower theyll grow big and healthy with just regular watering (i use r.o. water too). Ive had about 3 other experienced growers make the soil the same way and theyve all had results so good thats all they use now.
When i switch them to flowering, I add 1tbs of 'Superbloom' (12-55-6) per gallon of water the first day, then once more at the 4 week mark for a lil kick, but any high phosphorus water soluble fertilizer will do.

First pic is my current grow just starting week 3 of flower. Theyre all 6ft or better. Other pics are my last harvest where i pulled 12-15oz (dry weight) per plantView attachment 1000023594.jpg1000023585.png
 

EH40veg

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i would draw a line on the outside at ten ltrs and go with the recommended dose of both plus the coco a and b, just check the ph with the test dye and adjust to 5.5 a light orange colour
Thanks mate see if I make a 10L mix and I don’t use it all that day, will it be fine to sit around for a few days or should I always make up a fresh batch?
 

EH40veg

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11 lbs dry Coco Coir seperated to make16gals. Rinse seperated coco well.

Take 10 gallons of water and add 2 oz. Of Calcium Nitrate, & ½ oz. Magnesium sulfate, mix until totally dissolved pour over coco

Soak Coco overnight in calcium/magnesium solution, drain, and rinse well

Add 20qts (5 gals) of Land and sea organic compost (prefered but any organic compost will do)

Add 20 qts medium to course perlite

Add 5Qts (6lb bag) Worm Castings

Add:
Blood Meal 4½ cups
Bone meal 3 cups
Garden Lime 2 cups
Gypsum 1½ cup
(Everyone of these can be purchased from amazon Total cost is about $80)

Makes 25 Gallons of Substrate @
- 64% Coco Coir
- 20% Organic compost
- 10% Perlite
- 5% Worm castings
- 1% Amendments
I usually let it sit for 2 weeks but ive used it immediately also, and haven't noticed a difference.

*Do not add anything during veg unless absolutly necessary! brown spots, yellowing, etc. then just a little Cal-Mag (2ml per gallon of water for 2 waterings)*

This mixture takes your plants all the way through flower theyll grow big and healthy with just regular watering (i use r.o. water too). Ive had about 3 other experienced growers make the soil the same way and theyve all had results so good thats all they use now.
When i switch them to flowering, I add 1tbs of 'Superbloom' (12-55-6) per gallon of water the first day, then once more at the 4 week mark for a lil kick, but any high phosphorus water soluble fertilizer will do.

First pic is my current grow just starting week 3 of flower. Theyre all 6ft or better. Other pics are my last harvest where i pulled 12-15oz (dry weight) per plantView attachment 5423195View attachment 5423196
Thanks mate, looks good. Definitely something I’ll need to try next time, at the moment I’ve got them in some eco thrive 70/30 coco perlite premix. Seems quite helpful as well you don’t need add any food until flower.

How long do you normally veg those for?
 

bursto

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Thanks mate see if I make a 10L mix and I don’t use it all that day, will it be fine to sit around for a few days or should I always make up a fresh batch?
no worries mate, as long as you've tested and balanced the ph, its all good for a few days upto a week it would still be ok
 
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