Canna Coco. What's your setup and routine?

Screaming trees

Screaming trees

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So I've been trolling and scrolling through thread after thread on every forum on the internet for some time now. And I'd like to have a thread dedicated to just Coco growers and their setup and routines. Can be elaborate or short and sweet. Basically I'm curious to others feeding routines and room setups to compare and get ideas. I believe this could be a quick reference to others as well. Of course I understand the learning curves can differ but all in all it's an idea of where to start.
Examples being : Veg and flowering nutes and brands and how much do you use, water temps, drain to waste, hand pouring, humidity, light cycles, bulb wattage, bulb types, water oxygenation, how long do you veg and flower, do you do complete runoffs every watering-ect, PH levels and tds levels in every phase, extra additives, what time of day do you water, what size buckets and anything else that people can compare too with coco growing.
I'm fairly new to growing and I'm hungry for knowledge. I love the whole aura that surrounds this world of Cannabis with new beneficial study's happening that are going to be discovered to help people with all sorts of health problems. I'd like to say I could maybe be one of those people one day that could discover something new and exciting myself to add some good
 
lickalotapus

lickalotapus

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Hey mate , iv done a few grows with decent results, I feel im just now getting tge hang of coco
My set up has been watever I felt like at the time but iv just build a wardrobe and plan on running it the same for a while...
1x1x2m wardrobe for flower
0.7x1x2m for veg
2x600w bare bulb vertical scrog with 2 plants in veg and 2 plants in flower
Ghs super lemon haze
And probably 20L bucket for each plant
Canna coco and nutes with a diy water system and drain hoses that go outdoors

Hoping to pull 3Lb per run once dialled in
 
Screaming trees

Screaming trees

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lickalotapus said:
Hey mate , iv done a few grows with decent results, I feel im just now getting tge hang of coco
My set up has been watever I felt like at the time but iv just build a wardrobe and plan on running it the same for a while...
1x1x2m wardrobe for flower
0.7x1x2m for veg
2x600w bare bulb vertical scrog with 2 plants in veg and 2 plants in flower
Ghs super lemon haze
And probably 20L bucket for each plant
Canna coco and nutes with a diy water system and drain hoses that go outdoors

Hoping to pull 3Lb per run once dialled in
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Thanx for the reply. I hear ya and best of luck to you. I'm slowly getting the hang of it myself. That's why I was hoping to get a thread going that done nothing but let people share their recipes. Nothing but recipes and pictures of the results. You have to read so much on some threads just to get a tiny bit of information. 20 pages of threads later and you find out their PH and then 15 pages later you found out that was only in Veg. It would be nice and simple to have a reference people could go glance at without stumbling for hours and days through threads.
 
lickalotapus

lickalotapus

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Screaming trees said:
Thanx for the reply. I hear ya and best of luck to you. I'm slowly getting the hang of it myself. That's why I was hoping to get a thread going that done nothing but let people share their recipes. Nothing but recipes and pictures of the results. You have to read so much on some threads just to get a tiny bit of information. 20 pages of threads later and you find out their PH and then 15 pages later you found out that was only in Veg. It would be nice and simple to have a reference people could go glance at without stumbling for hours and days through threads.
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Yeah I hear ya , its tricky trying to peice together the bits of information into something useful , and then you have the grow journals that start out awsome and just end halfway through, there are a few good threads around though

I found this info very usefull

https://www.rollitup.org/t/canna-coco-nutrients-and-coco.819935/

Biggest thing id reccomend to someone starting out is get a good ph and ec meter and calibrate them often , it will save you alot of trouble
 
Screaming trees

Screaming trees

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lickalotapus said:
Yeah I hear ya , its tricky trying to peice together the bits of information into something useful , and then you have the grow journals that start out awsome and just end halfway through, there are a few good threads around though

I found this info very usefull

https://www.rollitup.org/t/canna-coco-nutrients-and-coco.819935/

Biggest thing id reccomend to someone starting out is get a good ph and ec meter and calibrate them often , it will save you alot of trouble
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I'll check that out. Thanx! Yea I learned the hard way on the meters. After 5 meters I found a good one. Got an Oakton and it's worth every penny. Everyone of the others I've had to always do major calibrations two and three times a week. The Oakton is always spot on. I just double check it once a week to make sure and it never fails me. Are you familiar with any if the House and Garden AN's? I got some shooting powder, bud xl and amino treatment from them for this next to around. I'm still trying to find out if the Amino treatment is like liquid silicone. Still no replies yet.
 
Screaming trees

Screaming trees

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lickalotapus said:
Hey mate , iv done a few grows with decent results, I feel im just now getting tge hang of coco
My set up has been watever I felt like at the time but iv just build a wardrobe and plan on running it the same for a while...
1x1x2m wardrobe for flower
0.7x1x2m for veg
2x600w bare bulb vertical scrog with 2 plants in veg and 2 plants in flower
Ghs super lemon haze
And probably 20L bucket for each plant
Canna coco and nutes with a diy water system and drain hoses that go outdoors

Hoping to pull 3Lb per run once dialled in
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What you been running your PH at in Veg and flower?
 
DirtyNerd

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Running full canna line

I follow the canna coco chart and the girls are loving it :D need to update my log tonight once lights go on
PH level 5.8
This run Veg time was 35 days pot size 30 liters lights 1 x 600hps for veg and 2 x 600 hps for flower
i was using a rez but now i just hand feed to waste and i feed every 4-5 days
 
lickalotapus

lickalotapus

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Screaming trees said:
I'll check that out. Thanx! Yea I learned the hard way on the meters. After 5 meters I found a good one. Got an Oakton and it's worth every penny. Everyone of the others I've had to always do major calibrations two and three times a week. The Oakton is always spot on. I just double check it once a week to make sure and it never fails me. Are you familiar with any if the House and Garden AN's? I got some shooting powder, bud xl and amino treatment from them for this next to around. I'm still trying to find out if the Amino treatment is like liquid silicone. Still no replies yet.
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Yeah I but the bullet and got a blue lab ,
I was running h&g a b and had problems switched to canna , same problems then found my ec meter was fucked and was feeding 2 x what my meter said , now with canna beautiful in veg but whenever I push it in flower I still get nitogen claw which delays the shit out of my bitches so im gona try advance nutrients sensi bloom coco which has a much better npk for flower,
And im no pro grower , just tryin to find some nutrients that will deliver me some quality but with no toxicies or deficiencies haha I dont ask for much
, il let you know how this change goes for me.

I seriously dont understand why I keep getting nitrogen claw and delayed bitches ?
Decent environment , airflow , ec of 0.8 -1.1 in veg slowly bumping up after stretch and BAM! To much nitrogen wtf!
Growing can do your head in!!
Thank fuck I dont smoke much and it only takes a couple of oz every few months to keep the bowl full, still it would be nice to get a gram per watt or even close
 
Screaming trees

Screaming trees

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lickalotapus said:
Yeah I but the bullet and got a blue lab ,
I was running h&g a b and had problems switched to canna , same problems then found my ec meter was fucked and was feeding 2 x what my meter said , now with canna beautiful in veg but whenever I push it in flower I still get nitogen claw which delays the shit out of my bitches so im gona try advance nutrients sensi bloom coco which has a much better npk for flower,
And im no pro grower , just tryin to find some nutrients that will deliver me some quality but with no toxicies or deficiencies haha I dont ask for much
, il let you know how this change goes for me.

I seriously dont understand why I keep getting nitrogen claw and delayed bitches ?
Decent environment , airflow , ec of 0.8 -1.1 in veg slowly bumping up after stretch and BAM! To much nitrogen wtf!
Growing can do your head in!!
Thank fuck I dont smoke much and it only takes a couple of oz every few months to keep the bowl full, still it would be nice to get a gram per watt or even close
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Man I had the same problem! And guess what it was for me?? My ph was to low. I was reading the AK48 Canna coco thread and found out my PH wasn't high enough. I corrected the PH and after 2 days the claw left and everything started looking so much better. So now I run 5.8 in veg and 6.0-6.1 in flower.
He jacks his up two weeks into flower. I'll send link in case you've not read. https://www.rollitup.org/t/ak48-coco-grow-1st-try-at-scrog.778302/
 
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Screaming trees

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Screaming trees

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DirtyNerd said:
Running full canna line

I follow the canna coco chart and the girls are loving it :D need to update my log tonight once lights go on
PH level 5.8
This run Veg time was 35 days pot size 30 liters lights 1 x 600hps for veg and 2 x 600 hps for flower
i was using a rez but now i just hand feed to waste and i feed every 4-5 days
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Thanx for the post! It's a little bit more time consuming but I like hand watering. You get more personnel with your ladies.
 
DirtyNerd

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Yeah its nice I always give the girls a good look over and touch them up and down make sure there is no bugs getting there creep on

Hoping one of my plants slow down with the stretch its all most 10 inchs bigger then the others
 
Screaming trees

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DirtyNerd said:
Yeah its nice I always give the girls a good look over and touch them up and down make sure there is no bugs getting there creep on

Hoping one of my plants slow down with the stretch its all most 10 inchs bigger then the others
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Lol, yea we don't need no dirty Pervy bugs gettn their freak on lol.
Wow! Was it grown at the same time as the others?
 
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My current grow is different from the normal setup due to space restrictions and having to start from scratch again with seeds. But currently my setup:

1 x 4x4 tent

1 x 3.5x3.5 tent

(Usually it's a 4x8 but no room to set it up in my small basement)

Oscillating fan in each running 24/7

600w lights A/C with 6" inline fan 1 for each and a can filter on each running 24/7

Dehumidifier running 24/7

Both tents run passive intake I'll be installing some PVC elbows to help avoid light leaks but I just usually never go down there during flowering period.

I start seeds/clones under 4 x 3' t5 ho bulbs in red party cups in pure coco then transplant into 3 gal pots coco mix depends sometimes i add perlite some i don't fan in the room running 24/7 not directly on them but oscillating enough to make them move in the breeze a bit

Veg/flower nutes
( using the last of precious grows until my next grow when I will be switching to dyna-gro)

Veg: Last of my Advanced ph perfect grow
Flower: Last of my botanicare bloom/ripe

Veg nutes depended on color/last watering. I try to water daily but sometimes get busy and they can go a few days without a water but if I water daily i use 1ml a+b of ph perfect per ltr and outa 7 waterings maybe 2 will be just plain water. Keeps them pretty green if I see yellowing I'll increase for a day or 2 by a ml or so.

Currently running all new strains so not sure how much flower nutes I'll be running as I just flipped to 12/12 yesterday.

Additives: canna labs silicate - very little at 1ml per gallon.

PH i normally will do 5.8 but occasionally I'll let it go 5.7 or 5.9

Water temps are usually around 68f

I try hand watering daily, if I do I water by hand, each plant gets 1 ltr of water

Humidity is usually around 40-50%

Light cycles
24 hrs veg
12/12 flower

How long do I veg and flower depends on the grow it's never the same

I never check runoff,
I never check ppm,
I always PH
 
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Silky Shagsalot

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here's a cut and paste from g. lows book, "integral hydroponics."

COCO COIR

is a product derived from the husks of the coconut.

Visually it looks like peat.

It's air capacity is about 30%.

Coir is most suited as a run to waste medium.

Coir can become saturated and it is not truly inert medium.

This means that the nutrient will change over a short period (due to the nutrient collecting micro and macro elements as it passes through the coir.

Coir tends to release potassium and to withold calcium.

For this reason it is desirable to use a nutrient that is blended specifically for coir.

Coir has a remarkable capacity to protect the plants root system in times of heat.

It also tends to promote vigorous and healthy root development.

Plant growth tends to be very consistant with coir.

Coir is very tolerant of over and under watering, which makes it a very forgiving growing medium.

Coir has a very strong cation exchange ability, which means it can hold and release nutrient elements based on the plants needs.

Coir tends to retain nutrient salts. because of this, less nutrient (lower ec) is required.

On a less positive note, coir can also contain high levels of sodium (salt)....

If your growing in coir be aware that this can be a potential problem.

Either purchase a pre-flushed coir product or flush ph (5.5-6.0) stabilised water through the coir prior to use.

Measure the ec of the water and then measure the ec of the run off.

When they are the same, it is ready for use.

Large amounts of potassium are naturally present in coir.

Potassium competes with calcium and magnesium... buffering and plant nutrition needs to compensate for this!!

For this reason there are several nutrients that are specifically formulated with the coco coir's unique characteristics in mind.

By using a nutrient specifically formulated for the coir based system, you are ensuring that your plants are receiving the best possible nutritient package.
 
Screaming trees

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DirtyNerd said:
Yeah both started at the same time from seed it was crazy ill post a photo soon
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That sucker shot up like a rocket compared to the others!
Was it the same strain?
That's something else that would be good to know for coco growers.
How certain strains react to Coco.
It would be a lot of threads and post but dam it would be sweet to look up something like Blue Dream in coco and how it behaved. Just quick references to give people somewhere to start and pick a middle ground from a comparison of everyone's regiments :)
 
Screaming trees

Screaming trees

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Silky Shagsalot said:
here's a cut and paste from g. lows book, "integral hydroponics."

COCO COIR

is a product derived from the husks of the coconut.

Visually it looks like peat.

It's air capacity is about 30%.

Coir is most suited as a run to waste medium.

Coir can become saturated and it is not truly inert medium.

This means that the nutrient will change over a short period (due to the nutrient collecting micro and macro elements as it passes through the coir.

Coir tends to release potassium and to withold calcium.

For this reason it is desirable to use a nutrient that is blended specifically for coir.

Coir has a remarkable capacity to protect the plants root system in times of heat.

It also tends to promote vigorous and healthy root development.

Plant growth tends to be very consistant with coir.

Coir is very tolerant of over and under watering, which makes it a very forgiving growing medium.

Coir has a very strong cation exchange ability, which means it can hold and release nutrient elements based on the plants needs.

Coir tends to retain nutrient salts. because of this, less nutrient (lower ec) is required.

On a less positive note, coir can also contain high levels of sodium (salt)....

If your growing in coir be aware that this can be a potential problem.

Either purchase a pre-flushed coir product or flush ph (5.5-6.0) stabilised water through the coir prior to use.

Measure the ec of the water and then measure the ec of the run off.

When they are the same, it is ready for use.

Large amounts of potassium are naturally present in coir.

Potassium competes with calcium and magnesium... buffering and plant nutrition needs to compensate for this!!

For this reason there are several nutrients that are specifically formulated with the coco coir's unique characteristics in mind.

By using a nutrient specifically formulated for the coir based system, you are ensuring that your plants are receiving the best possible nutritient package.
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Thanx for the post Silky.
Do you mostly grow in Coco?
 
DirtyNerd

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Screaming trees said:
That sucker shot up like a rocket compared to the others!
Was it the same strain?
That's something else that would be good to know for coco growers.
How certain strains react to Coco.
It would be a lot of threads and post but dam it would be sweet to look up something like Blue Dream in coco and how it behaved. Just quick references to give people somewhere to start and pick a middle ground from a comparison of everyone's regiments :)
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Yeah that would be awesome two strains one is the jack herer and one is the pineapple crunk when i transplanted i didn't label so not 100% witch is witch :D ill soon find out when the smell starts
 
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