Can’t yield more than 2 zips a plant

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DoobieDukes84

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Hi

I am after some advice. I am struggling to yield more than 2 zip a plant. I am on my 5th run now and so far averaging 1.5zip a plant. My set up is as follows

-veg for 8 weeks under 250MH
-Flower under 250w hps dual spec
-Carry out low stress training during veg to flatten canopy
-Growing in coco coir. 16 litre fabric pot
-Feeding general hydroponics and vita link calmag. Rhizotonic in early stages to help roots. Did use Advance Nute big bud on one of grows and didn’t see that much difference.
- temps and humidity are where they should be in veg and flower.
- I have an oscillating fan and a 4 inch fox exhaust fan and filter
- Running with Barneys Farm Blue cheese at the moment.
- not suffering any burns from what I can see.

Can anyone think of anything I am missing? I am hearing of people achieving 5zips of dried bud a plant. My plants look healthy and produce some nice tasting bud, but just not a lot. Is 2 zips of dried bud a plant all I can hope to achieve?

Any input would be appreciated

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NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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there has to be a something missing. how long do you veg for? I just finished a 4 plant run, 4 weeks of veg, under about 500 watts of led and pulled 5 ounces each off of 2 of them, 5.5 ounces off of the third and 3 ounces off of the fourth. 17.5 zips under 500 watts (125 watts per plant).
 
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mtnman2016

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DieselNuts said:
Bigger roots= Bigger fruits
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Bullshit!! How do you make bigger roots in a soil grow? I grow in 5 gallon pots and yet have never seen the rootball exceed 50%, EVER!

OP, 1.5 O per plant is not all that good, you should expect 3 at least. I get 3 O per plant under 600 HPS but get the same with 400W LED, just don't get quality under 12" of canopy. I run that in an ISO.
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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mtnman2016 said:
Bullshit!! How do you make bigger roots in a soil grow? I grow in 5 gallon pots and yet have never seen the rootball exceed 50%, EVER!

OP, 1.5 O per plant is not all that good, you should expect 3 at least. I get 3 O per plant under 600 HPS but get the same with 400W LED, just don't get quality under 12" of canopy. I run that in an ISO.
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I've had pots much bigger than 5 gallons completely root bound. Not sure what you mean.
 
Lenin1917

Lenin1917

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250w is not a lot of light and not too that 250w hids are super inefficient. If you’re achieving harvest with what you have your off to a good start. How big is your grow area? I’m guessing less than 3ftx3ft which you can light up real nice with 300w led for pretty cheap too.
 
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SteakBags

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NanoGadget said:
there has to be a something missing. how long do you veg for? I just finished a 4 plant run, 4 weeks of veg, under about 500 watts of led and pulled 5 ounces each off of 2 of them, 5.5 ounces off of the third and 3 ounces off of the fourth. 17.5 zips under 500 watts (125 watts per plant).
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how tall were they? And what medium?
 
Lenin1917

Lenin1917

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Everyone asking all these extra questions like the answer isn’t in the first sentence of ops question. It’s light, that’s it dude needs more light all the training and playing with fertilizer ratios in the world isn’t gonna increase what you can pull off a 250w hps they’re super inefficient, .5gpw is about the most you can expect from them and that’s if you’re doing good(which it sounds like op is doing)
 
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mtnman2016

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Lenin1917 said:
Everyone asking all these extra questions like the answer isn’t in the first sentence of ops question. It’s light, that’s it dude needs more light all the training and playing with fertilizer ratios in the world isn’t gonna increase what you can pull off a 250w hps they’re super inefficient, .5gpw is about the most you can expect from them and that’s if you’re doing good(which it sounds like op is doing)
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Amen, thank you
 
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