CERAMIC HPS

thetr33man

thetr33man

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Looks like a lot of wasted energy above 700 if you ask me. Would make a nice radiant heater tho probably....
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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I had seen this a while back and was wondering if it was an official product or not.
For cob growers to keep saying HPS/HID is dead is just ridiculous :roll:
Just as science keeps improving led efficiency, wouldn't it be plausible to think arc tube chemistry could improve to alter spectrum / efficiency?

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JorgeGonzales

JorgeGonzales

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OneHitDone said:
I had seen this a while back and was wondering if it was an official product or not.
For cob growers to keep saying HPS/HID is dead is just ridiculous :roll:
Just as science keeps improving led efficiency, wouldn't it be plausible to think arc tube chemistry could improve to alter spectrum / efficiency?

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I have a soft spot for HPS, but...well.

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/CHPS600-PerformanceSpecs.aspx

I can tell you one thing, they should really move past lumens as a measure of output. Advertising 50lm/W and a replacement time of 9 months is not doing themselves any favors.

Also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitz's_law

It seems pretty inevitable at this point.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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JorgeGonzales said:
I have a soft spot for HPS, but...well.

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/CHPS600-PerformanceSpecs.aspx

I can tell you one thing, they should really move past lumens as a measure of output. Advertising 50lm/W and a replacement time of 9 months is not doing themselves any favors.

Also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitz's_law

It seems pretty inevitable at this point.
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Why would we want our "government resources were spent for research on LED-lighting" as stated in Haitz's law?
 
JorgeGonzales

JorgeGonzales

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OneHitDone said:
Why would we want our "government resources were spent for research on LED-lighting" as stated in Haitz's law?
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Sorry, you lost me there, that has nothing to do with Haitz's law, but in context:

"The [2000] publication also forecast that the efficacy of LED-based lighting could reach 200 lm/W (lumen per Watt) in 2020, crossing 100 lm/W in 2010. This would be the case if enough industrial and government resources were spent for research on LED-lighting. More than 50% of the electricity consumption for lighting (20% of the totally consumed electrical energy) would be saved reaching 200 lm/W. This prospect and other stepping-stone applications of LEDs (e.g. mobile phone flash and LCD-backlighting) led to a massive investment in LED-research so that the LED efficacy did indeed cross 100 lm/W in 2010."

He just encouraged more research in 2000, and he was fucking right. Actually forget 2020, there are 200lm/W* growers in this forum.

* Supposedly. No actual testing has proven this quite yet. We need a light maker to pony up the $2-300 to actually test their lights. Ahem. @Stephenj37826? What happened with the planned integrating sphere testing?
 
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Stephenj37826

Stephenj37826

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JorgeGonzales said:
Sorry, you lost me there, that has nothing to do with Haitz's law, but in context:

"The [2000] publication also forecast that the efficacy of LED-based lighting could reach 200 lm/W (lumen per Watt) in 2020, crossing 100 lm/W in 2010. This would be the case if enough industrial and government resources were spent for research on LED-lighting. More than 50% of the electricity consumption for lighting (20% of the totally consumed electrical energy) would be saved reaching 200 lm/W. This prospect and other stepping-stone applications of LEDs (e.g. mobile phone flash and LCD-backlighting) led to a massive investment in LED-research so that the LED efficacy did indeed cross 100 lm/W in 2010."

He just encouraged more research in 2000, and he was fucking right. Actually forget 2020, there are 200lm/W* growers in this forum.

* Supposedly. No actual testing has proven this quite yet. We need a light maker to pony up the $2-300 to actually test their lights. Ahem. @Stephenj37826? What happened with the planned integrating sphere testing?
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I have been offered to have my fixtures tested once again. The company that was going to do the testing kinda went Mia as a whole lol. They actually set up a store with a test system but have been slow to respond to the problems they are encountering. I may just spend the money on the maximizer to have it done just for the community at large. In honestly I was told the new bins where going to be here sooner than they have appeared and I've been holding out but I may just go on with it and re test with the newer stuff once it becomes available.
 
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