Cheap fast reacting Super phosphate a organic fert ?

mr.india

mr.india

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Yesterday i went to some local fertilizer shops to buy some organic blooming.. But my bad luck.. they all just have chemical fert and some organic micronutrients.. I noticed in all the shops there was a common thing.. Yeah, BIG bags of super phosphate having very fuckin gud NPK 0-45-10. I asked one of the shop keeper is this shit organic then he explained me super phosphate is made from rock phophate by reacting it with sulfate? .. bt he even don't know whether it came under organic or inorganic.
I m sure if dis shit is organic it can do wonders.
Any of u used it and any taste difference ?
btw.. Wts ur secret blooming organic shit?
 
Dinosaur Bone

Dinosaur Bone

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Its probably NOT Organic. For one, if they are marketing it to organic customers, and applying a fabulous price markup for using the word "organic".... it should say so on the label.

The highest NPK numbers achievable organically are about 10-10-5 You cant go much higher with the NPK numbers without refining it, and processing it to a chemical grade.

The word "SUPER" is also a dead give away that its chemical.
 
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Wetdog

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Read the label a bit closer.

That stuff is not intended for container grows of any sort, it usually says so right on the bag.

It will do wonders alright, you'll wonder how your plant got so badly burned.

Wet
 
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madodah

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mr.india said:
Yesterday i went to some local fertilizer shops to buy some organic blooming.. But my bad luck.. they all just have chemical fert and some organic micronutrients.. I noticed in all the shops there was a common thing.. Yeah, BIG bags of super phosphate having very fuckin gud NPK 0-45-10. I asked one of the shop keeper is this shit organic then he explained me super phosphate is made from rock phophate by reacting it with sulfate? .. bt he even don't know whether it came under organic or inorganic.
I m sure if dis shit is organic it can do wonders.
Any of u used it and any taste difference ?
btw.. Wts ur secret blooming organic shit?
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First, the definition or organic is containing carbon. Superphosphate is produced by man using the chemical sulfuric acid, which contains no carbon, to treat phosphate rock, a mineral, to release phosphorus, a common fertilizer. Not organic, you're deep in Monsanto chemical territory.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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madodah said:
First, the definition or organic is containing carbon. Superphosphate is produced by man using the chemical sulfuric acid, which contains no carbon, to treat phosphate rock, a mineral, to release phosphorus, a common fertilizer. Not organic, you're deep in Monsanto chemical territory.
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Monsanto territory for sure.

Some confusion here about organic as it applies to nutrient and OMRI (+other) certifications.

Organic and Inorganic are chemistry terms that refer to whether any particular molecule or compound is carbon based, as written above.

Organics, when used with nutrients, usually refers to one of many organic certifications that products can apply for. These certifications (simplified) have to do with the lack of synthetic products and the lack of pesticides in the nutrients.

Tip for the future: anything with a huge NPK number like that (20+) is usually some chem. Organic nutes usually stay under 10 for NPK.
 
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madodah

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Matt Rize said:
Monsanto territory for sure.

Some confusion here about organic as it applies to nutrient and OMRI (+other) certifications.

Organic and Inorganic are chemistry terms that refer to whether any particular molecule or compound is carbon based, as written above.

Organics, when used with nutrients, usually refers to one of many organic certifications that products can apply for. These certifications (simplified) have to do with the lack of synthetic products and the lack of pesticides in the nutrients.
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'Organic' cannabis growers who depend on marketing driven soluble nutrient supplements with catchy names would be amazed at how many of their 'nute lineups' contain pesticides.

Tip for the future: anything with a huge NPK number like that (20+) is usually some chem. Organic nutes usually stay under 10 for NPK.
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mr.india

mr.india

Active Member
Thanx alot for the explaination
So, what you guys use for flowering..? I can't find any organic flowering nutes in my state
 
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madodah

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Wordz said:
name the products.
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I'm not in the mood for a lawsuit brought by chemical giants but you can go to the Oregon State Agricultural Website for a list. Let me know if you can't find it. You can also read OMRI certifications, many of which allow 5-10% non-food grade components in the certification process.
 
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Wordz

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madodah said:
I'm not in the mood for a lawsuit brought by chemical giants but you can go to the Oregon State Agricultural Website for a list. Let me know if you can't find it. You can also read OMRI certifications, many of which allow 5-10% non-food grade components in the certification process.
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how would you get a lawsuit? it's not illegal to name an ingredient in a product.
 
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madodah

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Wordz said:
how would you get a lawsuit? it's not illegal to name an ingredient in a product.
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Oregon agricultural rulings don't name specific product ingredients, only that they're not disclosed on labeling. Pesticides are legal for sale in Oregon only if listed as same on labeling.
 
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