check out the mutant!

CannaBruh

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It'll be interesting to see if it outgrows that trait or if it sticks with the plant, and with cuts, and with progeny, but I'm guessing no on the latter one for sure, possibly outgrow it on cuts once it starts alternating, and even the mom might alternate out of that structure. Got my popcorn tho and congrats man those are rare as far as I can tell.
 

CannaBruh

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NOT a triploid!
Please contribute what information leads you to rebuttal with such confidence yet skate out without shedding any light?

I did mention in my last post about what Sam had said and that they referred to these tri leaf throwers as another term that evades me, but that post seemed to evade you as well.... do you know the term for these?
 

Dr. Who

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The plant simply has three node points at the start instead of 2! This does not make it a triploid!
It'll be a nice one to top!

A few years back a Spanish based seed breeding company did some extensive work with "polyploidy" or triploid plants. They did some interesting research and posted some early things on ICG! They did not post after that.
Because they found that all the claims of Trip or poly to be basically BS and they had trouble with the breading program inherent to the problems associated with a poly plant anyway!

The company was Buddha seeds (NOT Big buddha) out of Spain - Drop them a line and see if they will answer your question? I rather doubt it....

Back in the late 60's there was a push to use (and they sold it in the back of high times) colchicine to treat the plant or it's seeds to make it poly. Colchicine is VERY toxic! So toxic that it kills the plants and seeds treated with it! You can MAYBE get a few beans out of a cpl a hundred treated to pop and finally grow BUT, the resulting plant still contains enough of the drug to be toxic! You have to breed that plant and hope some of the offspring carry the poly gene's to actually use the plant matter from that method.

I'll bet your going to google that now. You'll find some things from "Billy BUD" This guy is so full of BS that it's better to simply not read the link!

I've only seen 2 cannabis plants in over 4 decades of growing (only 1 was mine) in person. I found mine to be cool looking but, a waste of time. The other was no better in the end and there was a guy on here that had one - I'm sure he said it was a pain in veg too. Ummm, ah,, Hydro Red I think.....

Anyway - That's not a trip or a poly ! If when the leaf sets begin to go to multiple leaves. IF the base of the leaves at the point of the leaf stem where they join is VERY webbed and has dbl the leaves.......THEN it MIGHT be poly.
 

CannaBruh

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All that and not a single reference to any scientific term relating to a plant with such a structure?

At least with the term "triploid", we are able to find others with the same structure of plants, and until someone offers a scientifically accurate and correct term to assign these plants, offering nothing is hardly better than offering a searchable term to query for some kind of result. Two cents.

...does it get anymore "tri" than 3x cotyledons?
 

cat of curiosity

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All that and not a single reference to any scientific term relating to a plant with such a structure?

At least with the term "triploid", we are able to find others with the same structure of plants, and until someone offers a scientifically accurate and correct term to assign these plants, offering nothing is hardly better than offering a searchable term to query for some kind of result. Two cents.

...does it get anymore "tri" than 3x cotyledons?
the term is trifoliate. not polyploid.

simple mutation, does not increase yield, but supports ample branching if topped, then all tops will grow normally. if left it will stop once nodes begin to alternate.
 

cat of curiosity

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If that were the case I'd expect we'd find more documented cases, yet they are few and far between. Can we just agree that it is not common?
not really, i've had dozens of them over the past twenty years. they aren't an every day thing, but most people with experience don't freak out and think they invented the wheel when they get one. it's like a plant that buds purple. most don't, but it's not exactly rare...

there are hundreds if not thousands of posts about them right here in these forums. hundreds of thousands to millions when considering all the forums. the truth is out there.

oh, and most under-educated growers call them triploids or polyploids or polyploidy. they are none of those.
 

CannaBruh

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It's funny how you think people are claiming some invention of some wheel when in actual reality if you took two minutes to come on down and read the thread that you took time out of your day to post in you'd find we all in here were trying to identify wtf the thing was called.... not reinventing the wheel.

There's not hundreds to thousands..... and you're not the only one that's been around a few decades.

Funny, a lot of highly respected guys were referring to them as tri's and poly's long before you piped up and offered ZERO solution as to what they are called?

So your synopsis is that these are common, and you're an uneducated newb grower if a) you haven't found one yet b) don't know the proper term (do you cause you still haven't shared)

You seem smart...try contributing instead of tearing down your perceived interpretation of reinventing the wheel.
 

GroErr

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not really, i've had dozens of them over the past twenty years. they aren't an every day thing, but most people with experience don't freak out and think they invented the wheel when they get one. it's like a plant that buds purple. most don't, but it's not exactly rare...

there are hundreds if not thousands of posts about them right here in these forums. hundreds of thousands to millions when considering all the forums. the truth is out there.

oh, and most under-educated growers call them triploids or polyploids or polyploidy. they are none of those.
Who the f*ck cares what they're called, I call them tri-leaf phenos, mutants, whatever. They're cool and I haven't seen anyone claim they've invented something other than you claiming to know it all. Move on if you don't like the subject or what people are calling them. The rest of us are here to see a somewhat rare occurrence of a mutation and see where it goes, nothing else. No agenda, nothing to see here for you since you've seen it all, move along...
 

cat of curiosity

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Who the f*ck cares what they're called, I call them tri-leaf phenos, mutants, whatever. They're cool and I haven't seen anyone claim they've invented something other than you claiming to know it all. Move on if you don't like the subject or what people are calling them. The rest of us are here to see a somewhat rare occurrence of a mutation and see where it goes, nothing else. No agenda, nothing to see here for you since you've seen it all, move along...
someone asked for the scientific term. several times. then someone got an attitude about it. then it rubbed off on you apparently.

the problem with jumping to the end of a thread is you miss the content in the middle. a question was asked and repeated. it was answered. why do need to reply to me?
 

CannaBruh

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someone asked for the scientific term. several times. then someone got an attitude about it. then it rubbed off on you apparently.

the problem with jumping to the end of a thread is you miss the content in the middle. a question was asked and repeated. it was answered. why do need to reply to me?
you claimed it was a common occurrence and as far as I can tell haven't offered an answer for a scientific term?
 
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