Climate Change: Obama vs Romney

FreedomWorks

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Climate Change: Obama vs Romney

Posted by Brian Sussman in About The Book, Nationally Published Columns on Oct 8th, 2012

ScienceDebate.org recently asked President Obama and Governor Romney about their respective positions on global warming. Obama’s response is predictably eco-centric and insists on government solutions. Mitt Romney’s stance, on the other hand, is clear, detailed, and well-balanced.
Here is how the two responded when asked, “What is your position on cap and trade, carbon taxes, and other policies proposed to address global climate change–and what steps can we take to improve our ability to tackle challenges like climate change that cross national boundaries?

Obama:
We have to meet this challenge by driving smart policies that lead to greater growth in clean-energy generation and result in a range of economic and social benefits. Since taking office I have established historic standards limiting greenhouse gas emissions from our vehicles for the first time in history. My administration has made unprecedented investments in clean energy, proposed the first-ever carbon pollution limits for new fossil-fuel-fired power plants and reduced carbon emissions within the federal government. We are also showing international leadership on climate change, reaching historic agreements to set emission limits in unison with all major developed and developing nations. I will continue efforts to reduce our dependence on oil and lower our greenhouse gas emissions while creating an economy built to last.

Romney:
I am not a scientist myself, but my best assessment of the data is that the world is getting warmer, that human activity contributes to that warming, and that policymakers should therefore consider the risk of negative consequences. However, there remains a lack of scientific consensus on the issue — on the extent of the warming, the extent of the human contribution and the severity of the risk — and I believe we must support continued debate and investigation within the scientific community.
The reality is that the problem is called global warming, not America warming. China long ago passed America as the leading emitter of greenhouse gases. Developed-world emissions have leveled off while developing-world emissions continue to grow rapidly, and developing nations have no interest in accepting economic constraints to change that dynamic. In this context, the primary effect of unilateral action by the U.S. to impose costs on its own emissions will be to shift industrial activity overseas to nations whose industrial processes are more emissions-intensive and less environmentally friendly. That result may make environmentalists feel better, but it will not better the environment.
So I oppose steps like a carbon tax or a cap-and-trade system that would handicap the American economy and drive manufacturing jobs away, all without actually addressing the underlying problem. I believe we should pursue what I call a “no regrets” policy — steps that will lead to lower emissions, but that will benefit America regardless of whether the risks of global warming materialize and regardless of whether other nations take effective action. For instance, I support robust government funding for research on efficient, low-emissions technologies that will maintain American leadership in emerging industries.
 

UncleBuck

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climate change is a decades in the making hoax involving thousands of scientists across dozens of countries and hundreds of institutions that was only recently uncovered by the most uneducated, science-hating, ignorant 20% of the american populace.
 

FreedomWorks

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Why don't you go away for once. Your pictures are stupid, nobody is laughing at your childish behavior. What the hell kind of a moderator are you to just come in here and fuck up a serious debate issue right off the top?
 

UncleBuck

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Why don't you go away for once. Your pictures are stupid, nobody is laughing at your childish behavior. What the hell kind of a moderator are you to just come in here and fuck up a serious debate issue right off the top?
i'm a moderator? :lol:

you're an idiot.

go rape some more kids and steal their crayons.



in case you haven't noticed, admitted sock puppets like yourself are fair game. maybe you want to tell us who your original account was?
 

Carne Seca

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Why don't you go away for once. Your pictures are stupid, nobody is laughing at your childish behavior. What the hell kind of a moderator are you to just come in here and fuck up a serious debate issue right off the top?
hmm... this little rant is telling. There was a time UB was a moderator. Only someone who has used this site in the past would know that. Sock-puppet gave himself away. oops!
 

FreedomWorks

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hmm... this little rant is telling. There was a time UB was a moderator. Only someone who has used this site in the past would know that. Sock-puppet gave himself away. oops!
They kicked his ass off moderator without banning him? How did that happen? Well in that case I'll just put him on ignore. Carne, stop acting like you don't remember me.
 

UncleBuck

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They kicked his ass off moderator without banning him? How did that happen? Well in that case I'll just put him on ignore. Carne, stop acting like you don't remember me.
i resigned as mod so i could make sport of little shit stains like you.

so, who was your old account there, socky McJizzsock?

you fucking pussy ass bitch.
 

Carne Seca

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They kicked his ass off moderator without banning him? How did that happen? Well in that case I'll just put him on ignore. Carne, stop acting like you don't remember me.
I DON'T remember you. I have short term memories issues. I haven't a fucking clue who you are.

UB gave up his modship voluntarily. Can't say I blame him.
 

SSHZ

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I've added UncleBuck to my ignore list........I've had enough. I really don't ever remember anything he's contributed that was worth while.
 

Carne Seca

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I've added UncleBuck to my ignore list........I've had enough. I really don't ever remember anything he's contributed that was worth while.
That's o.k., I'll just quote him in every thread you participate in so you have to read it. :D
 

FreedomWorks

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I've added UncleBuck to my ignore list........I've had enough. I really don't ever remember anything he's contributed that was worth while.
The threads are easier to read without having to see all his spam. I should have put him on ignore days ago.
 

ginwilly

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That's o.k., I'll just quote him in every thread you participate in so you have to read it. :D
I actually laughed out loud.

I don't usually read who made the post unless I'm referencing it (although I've been here long enough to where I don't have to for some). I don't understand the ignoring and multi-accounts that seems rampant here.

I try not to take forums too seriously and although I disagree with pretty much 10 out of 9 things UB says he's still highly entertaining, I recommend not ignoring him, you might miss something.
 

BadDog40

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They kicked his ass off moderator without banning him? How did that happen? Well in that case I'll just put him on ignore. Carne, stop acting like you don't remember me.

So you've been banned and resurfaced under a different name, isn't that against the rules? Ban hammer coming again.
 

MuyLocoNC

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So you've been banned and resurfaced under a different name, isn't that against the rules? Ban hammer coming again.
Did he say he was banned? No? Oh, two yahoos said it so you immediately assumed it was true and started talking out your ass.
 

canndo

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Why should I weed my lawn when my next door neighbor has dandylions growing all over his?
 
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