CLONE QUESTION, not in the 101 already asked. Help Please

benbud89

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Hi guys! I'm about to start up a stealth SoG grow in my closet. This is my closet: 21" x 36" x 46" (53cm x 90cm x 115cm) thats all the space I have, though I can put my clones elsewhere. And this is my light: SGS-160

This is how I plan to do it, and I would really much like your your expertice and criticism on my idea about cloning and whatever else may occur to you:
First round: 3 fem. auto sweet tooth and 1 fem. white widow
The vegetative light is perfect for the autos where it will also grow my white whidow into a "mother".

When I take the Sweet tooths out for harvesting, Ill switch the light to 12/12 for flowering my mother. About that time Ill take of 20-30 clones and place them either on my balconee or in a small clone box.

When the clones have rooted I plan to put them directly into the flowering room. After a week or two Ill take clones from them, which Ill place in the clone box/balconee, and so on and so on. My question, thus, is this: Is it ok to clone the clones that early? Would it be successful? I would normally go for the original "mother on the side" idea, but I simply do not have the option to do so.

Please give me whatever input you have, thanks!
 

budfever

Active Member
Its going to be tough to clone a just rooted clone, and clones should be taken in veg not flower.
Clones take a bit of time to generate a good root system, so you wont see much above soil growth till they establish a good root system.
It will take 1-2 weeks just to establish roots then it will start getting bigger.
It depends on your setup but it will probably take around a month to establish roots and veg the clones big enough to be cloned themselves.
If your cloning a flowering plant it is going to take even longer then that to establish roots and start veg-ing again.
 

benbud89

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thabkst man. Id read that this fresh clones would, though being in the flower box, not start flowering promptly. most likely due to what you say, which is why I figured I could still takr clones. but anyways. the canopy is recommened to be at about 18" from the light, which Means that I could still let the fresh rootes veg some more, for the roots to grow down well and allow me to take New clones from them. how much time would they need in a small veg-clone box for me to allow such setup: just before placing the ready clones in the flower box, I take off clones from them. from what I understand, since the mother will already ve fully developed, so will the clones, since it is essentially the same plant, right? my problem would be solved by knowing exactly how long time I need for my clones to be well and clonable. looking forward for your answer and thanks a lot for your help.
 

benbud89

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seriously, would I need more lights? my bottom is not at all big and actually smaller than the optimal measurement s.
 

Greenwhilley

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I would suggest you double your clone veg time the first time, This will take longer your first round but then you will be in a perpetual grow with clones double the age. And if you clone into the flower stage you will be adding extra time on them

i hope that makes sense, it's hard to explain.
for example I have a plant I'm happy with, I'll take 5 clones. Then I will veg the clones until I can take clones from them. I then let the original clones heal before I flower them. Meanwhile I can then clone my 2nd generation clones etc.
so now I have skipped a generation and I have big well vegged clones to flower in the same total grow time.
 

benbud89

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Hi Green, I understand the first part. Regarding it, its no biggy, actually perhaps better; because of my motherplant(s) going into flower for about 8 weeks, Ill have plenty of time to do clones on the side and try to get a hang of it as long as my first generation went out well. The thing about their maturity, their mother plant will already have been vegging for approximately 8-9 weeks, while the autos flower away, wouldnt that mean that my clones, while being cut of a little before the mothers flower period, will be at a very mature state? However, about recovering after the cutting, I find it to be a good idea as well, but I worry for the height. Remember that my box is only 115cm (46") high, minus the lamp size, about 15cm (6") (lamp and above airspace), minus the recommended light distance from lamp to canopy 45cm (18"), minus pot size 10cm (4") - A total height grow size of 115-70cm=45cm(18"), so I cant allow for my plants to be too high, which is really my mayor concern. This is going to be my first grow after the auto+mother run, which is why I try to take as much as possible into account before putting everything in its place. But to question you this: Will the 45cm (18") be enough hight for clones that well vegged?
 
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