Cloning In Jiffy Pellets

PaulN'Chuck

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Ive been through various methods of cloning and simply havnt gotten it down yet. Ive done hydroponically with most success, all sorts of peat pellets but Jiffys worked the best. Ive also used just soil but that was once. It worked but thats not important. Does anybody have any advice on easy cloning? With or without the pellets? Im not looking to build anything other than a small DWC cloner seeing as I already have all the materials to do so. Im open to all ideas and am interested in hearing what works for you.
 

Metasynth

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I just did my first run in Jiffy pellets, took a while, but once they rooted those roots went crazy...good crazy.
 

PaulN'Chuck

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So how do you do it? Take the cutting and put right into jiffy then put the dome on? What are your temps looking like?
 

DeeTee

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So how do you do it? Take the cutting and put right into jiffy then put the dome on? What are your temps looking like?
Never used jiffy just rockwool but to answer your question I had a layer of perlite in the tray abt 1/2 to 1" added a little water to keep perlite moist, covered with dome, had a propagation matt underneath at 75 to 80 degs. Had good success.
 

squarefodder

Active Member
Here's what I do.

Equipment: alcohol, paper towel,scissors,razor, water (I use tap left out over night), clone dome, clonex, half teaspoon of each of the fox farm trio, spray bottle, large peat pellet expanded with warm water straight from tap.

Clean the razor and scissors with alcohol. Find a good stem worthy of your efforts. Take scissors and cut below a node. Put in a solution made of 1qt water and half teaspoon of each of the trio (you can also use any bloom booster really) then cut on 45 degree angle At the node and score the stem around the cut line. Then dip it in the cloning gel, then put it in the expanded peat pellet. Repeat untill your done taking cuttings. Next take the scissors and trim 1/4 off the end of the fan leads. I leave the very small ones at the top alone. Next spray the clones with water and mist the inside of the dome. Make sure that every vent is closed. Then cover the clones. Twice a day open the dome and let fresh air in. Keep things nice and moist but not drenched. Be sure to keep foliagewet as the clones don't have roots yet. Give em 18/6 to promote growth. In about 7 days you'll have roots comming out the sides of the pellet. Get some pots ready and bury the stem a bit after you see roots. Don't wait too long to plant because mold can and will grow on roots in such a damp environment.
 

Jrosek

Member
When using a dome you should never spray the cuts.. spray the lid if needed, the cuts will thrive best with the moisture in the air, a small cup of water in with the cuts will keep RH hi.
 

TheOrganic

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If you keep it wet it will clone no matter what it is in. I use well water at 290ppm in a DIY bubbler and have 100% success. Also did a clone in a wad of panty hose for fun and a rockwool that I tipped on its side and tried to fuck it up but it still took root after a couple weeks so thats my learning on cloning keep it wet and aerated.
 

Nullis

Moderator
Rapid Rooters or Sunleaves starting plugs made from composted tree bark are better than Jiffy/peat pellets if you ask me. As long as you made a good cut and use a good rooting product, etc. you should see roots coming through by day 7 or earlier.
 

bigsteve

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Go for the larger jiffy pellets, I think they are 2 inches. Get them at eBay and have them delivered.

My cloning experience is up and down too. 100% last batch, 0% next batch. But I do know that I
have better luck using larger cuttings. So if you are building your own set-up consider a 10-12 inch dome
for large clones.

Make sure you have a way to inspect the pellets for roots without bothering the clone. Like using something
clear to hold the pellet. After using the 2 inch pellets for a while I found some clear 10 ounce plastic cups that
are just as wide as an expanded 2 inch pellet. I drill 3 drain holes in the cup and place that cup, clone and all,
into another 10 ounce cup. That way I can pull up the holed cup so I can dip it in water a few seconds every
other day or so. You want the cups sitting in water 24/7 to keep the humidity at 100% while in the dome. If you
used just one cup, holed, water from the dome bottom would keep the pellet too wet. Hence 2 cups.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 

PaulN'Chuck

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OK thats what Im talking about! That is good thinking. Now what else do people got. I wanna hear other great jiffy ideas.
 

sfttailpaul

Active Member
OK thats what Im talking about! That is good thinking. Now what else do people got. I wanna hear other great jiffy ideas.
I wanna' hear all the nifty stuff too! BRAVO !!!! This is how we collectively grow, we learn from each other, our trials and tribulations. Yea man! This IS what I'm talkin' about talkin' about it too!!! I also use Rapid Rooters. They do a great job for me and also contain very mild nutrients for when the time comes. As long as I keep the "plug" MOIST and not wet, I get about 90% success. A dome kept visibly moist, 60% to 75% of the time, is also very important.

One thing I do is the treatment of the bottom 1" to 1-1/2" of the stem I just cut. After making my final 45* cut, I immediately dip 1" of the end into some form of a cloning gel; I found them all about the same, and therefore I believe the moisture/wetness issue is very important (after first picking a gel to use). Anyway, I gently scrape the side of the stem, that bottom 1-1/2", in several places. Just try scraping the outer, more tough layer of cell structure. Kinda' like Celery. This works equally well for more difficult conditions, IE: bark instead of nice soft tissue; dark-stemmed strains with difficulty similar to bark and so on. I also take and slice very gently sort of shallow (one gets the feel) into the stem's side; the goal is to make an easier path into the phlem(sp.?), the layer that is just inside the top "skin" about 1/32" and all the way to just before the center. If you research, you will find pictures showing where the root originates and the goal is to get there. One slice works, but two doubles the odds. I found that more than 2 goes negative. A flat football will develop around the slice if it roots and there will be a literal explosion of them coming out. I also found that a short slice 1/2" is just as good (stronger) as a long 1" slice. It only takes a small area to get the roots to follow this path. I like to experiment with the slice locations, sometimes starting up 1/2" high on one side then the other lower on the other side so it is like one long slice broken (with a twist)! It all works, different from cut to cut, not just strain specific. One thing also the blade MUST be sterile, I mean erroxide or even Alcohol dip of your blade between every slice/cut/etc. If you don't sterilize, you risk the introduction of Pathogens into the cell membrane and most probably will see it very fast if any problems are coming. They'll wilt, turn grey and get a mold growing in only a few days.

*SORRY POWER CLONE MACHINE*
I used to be a big fan of my Power Cloner (home made copy) and the 90% success I got there, but this method is equal and costs nothing (other than my light). I transplant these directly into my Ebb/Flo Hydro system which is using Hydroton They never decompose and everything grows right through them. Hey people, all this electricity adds up and I'm sick of it. Air pump, water pump, here a watt, there a watt, everywhere a OMG!
I dunna' know, this is just a way I kinda' evolved to. I was trying to propagate a kick-ass plant, of unknown genetics. It developed an almost instantaneous bark to its' stem, even the newest branching got bark before the second node appeared. I had tried everything to no avail. One day, out of boredom and dismay, I slit the stem like I described above (I was already scraping the bark sides away). For an unknown reason, I hung in there with these few cuttings. As long as the leaves were that healthy green and standing, no molds or any thing else, I hung in there (was real hard) and after 13.25 weeks, I got roots in 3 of 4 cuttings! I couldn't believe it. I had a way to keep her alive and let the original mother I had, go to flower. She was nearly 3 years old and deserved to be able to do her thing. She was tired. After all that, she was harvested at 24" diameter and 19" tall! I got just a tiny bit over 6 ozs. from her, a tribute to her strong genetics. She was a real Bonzi tree naturally, at least tha's what she looked like.
A Sativa 97.5% / Indica 2.5% freaking Bonzi Tree {R.I.P.}
 

sfttailpaul

Active Member
Excellent tip... Great use of available resources! American Ingenuity.
Spray inside the surfaces of the dome before putting it back on after aeration.
 
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