Cluster Bomb week 2 problems along the way follow along :-)

sincl9759

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hey starting a new scrog with some cluster bomb i bought 10 fem seeds and all ten germinated and are all up heres some pics .....
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Also heres a nug i picked up a few days ago IMG00193-20120316-2302.jpg :-) just some amnesia goes around alot here feel free to tell me what you think on it and what you think the problem is on the top ones. heres some shots of bbbc and big bomb from a while ago post some pics up of your grows aswell keep this link going and ill keep updating :-)
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missnu

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They are overwatered and that is all...see how the leaves look kinda washed out...some people instantly say nute deficiency, but no...just only water when the pots are dry...be it 1 or 12 days...when the pot is light it is time to water again..heavy pot is still wet...dry pot is light...very light...if you can pick up a 5 gallon pot with one hand...it needs water, if you can't easily pick it up then it has enough...
 

growone

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CB from hgs? had good luck with his gear but haven't run CB
looks a little low on something, maybe nitrogen, but you seem fairly experienced so could be anything
popping young sprouts with extra N seldom seems to help, causes more trouble usually
only thought that comes to mind is some alfalfa tea, gentle N source, not likely to burn anything
 

missnu

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Also make sure that when you water you water until there is runoff, and then no more until the pot is dry...also make sure that when you water until runoff that the runoff can drain down a drain..somewhere where other plants are not...I have one plant that is sensitive to other plants drainage I guess...I used to just water my plants where they are because my RH is extremely low, so I figured one moist day for the water to evaporate wouldn't hurt...and it wont'. but osme plants taking in the water from others makes those some plants very very unhappy...so now I lug all mine into the bathroom when they need to be watered...issue being the bigger the plant gets the more often it needs water...so baby plants in 1 gallon pots that are a breeze to water need water every 4 days or so...while my big girls in flowering need water every other day- every third day...and that is not to easy...easy to get them to the bathroom to water them because a light pot doesn't weigh anything..but bringing them back to the tent is heinous...! 1 gallon of water weighs roughly 8.5 lbs...so 7 gallons of dirt and water is heavy as hell...
 

missnu

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oooohhhh and if they aren't overwatered are you sure that they aren't ready to be up potted? They might be getting ready to outgrow those little pots...but to me they have the washed out look of overwater.
 

sincl9759

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i allways let the pots dry out before i rewater but i do have another person who does it for me so could be that... ph has been all over the place im not using any nutes yet as normally when i do this early its an overdose my houses water jumped to 7.8 in ph over the last week its never done this before but im thinking it could be that ive only just noticed it as normally i know what to put in i dont normally need to take readings unless i get problems like this i normally follow a routine ex. 5drops of lemon juice to every litre of water.. lol ph tested at 7.4 when i noticed is 7.4 enough to make it this bad?
 

growone

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that PH is certainly not the best, it may not lock things but higher PH grows seem to have more problems of various kinds
 

missnu

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no...my water starts out at like 8 or better...so....I always use pH down uhhhh...8 drops to every gallon makes it perfect (perfect enough)...I only put enough to get me in the 7s range...soil is alright with a broader range of pH's..but as long as you get the runoff right again...that shouldn't be an issue...at least when I have messed up the pH I have gone back and just flushed with enough pH water to change the runoff and get it closer to what I want it to be...usually by going a little farther to the other spectrum...anyway get the runoff where you want it, and then water with whatever you need to add to get it to the same place that you got your runoff to...wherever between 6 or 7 seems to work for me...but the pH could cause the discoloring we are seeing as well as any droopiness I was sure was overwatering...so it could be one or the other or both, and there might even be something else it might be. I hate how under different conditions most deficiencies will show similar symptoms...errrr...makes me crazy sometimes...anyway...the pH is easy to fix, but I really would get some pH down...I used vinegar for a long time with little to no issue, but the pH down is cheap, and lasts forever...and it only takes a little little bit...8 drops if I use the dropper, but really it is like 1/8 tsp...so a little bit goes a long way...you would need even less and it is cheap...super cheap...so I have to vote to ditch the lemon juice...I think it might acutally be less efficient to use...I know the vinegar was...took a lot of vinegar to do the same as 8 drops of the pH Down...blah blah blah...jeez...sorry...its my smoking time...
 

missnu

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i normally water in the bath or sink i done it in room today but i wipe up after :-)
yeah...I was trying to water large plants where they were, and it was not working out....lol. I have one that wants no nutes and to stay dry like the sahara...she is literally happiest in corners of the tent where she gets absolutely no attention and the runoff from the plants that use nutes were getting to her and she was freaking out...dear god...she was so terrible and then it all clicked...this has been a long time ago though...all my experience is from messing things up...
 

growone

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one thing missnu mentioned, bigger pots might not be a bad idea, some plants/strains seem to hate smaller pots
but if you've had good luck with a given ph range for a given soil, well, experience trumps theory
haven't seen much in the way of grow logs on this strain, some strains are just plain fussy
 

sincl9759

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yeah itsmental i really dont know what it is im getting like a grey brownish spot thing going on on the inside of the leaf ive decided to try give some nutes to two plants to see if that helps i dont know why i thought it would but i have nothing left ph is fine i allways let the pots dry out and it is happening to all plants now so god knows hopefully itll help im thinking cal mag problem and the nutes i have have alot in it so finger crossed :S what u guys think ?
 

growone

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i'd go with what missnu brought up earlier, transplant to bigger pots
looks like it's going have to be done soon anyway, so should be no harm doing a bit sooner
 

sincl9759

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took your advise ive moved them into the bigger ones they seemed to of got worse when i checked on them so i thought id do half first then other half tomoro
 
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