CMH or HPS ?

kmog33

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So i can run a bulb with a dimmable ballast without harming the ballast or the bulb? ? I use a 400 dimmable digital ballast ,running on 250w for the bulb.The bulb is 250w as well.
as long as you don't turn the ballast onto 400 with the 250 bulb in it.

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qroox

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as long as you don't turn the ballast onto 400 with the 250 bulb in it.

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Well that's perfect.Thanks mate.I wouldn't jump from a wattage to another.I'm an electrician actually..:D . Do you have any idea on what the super lumen switch does ? It's 250w - 250 super lumen,400w - 400w super lumen..
 

kmog33

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Well that's perfect.Thanks mate.I wouldn't jump from a wattage to another.I'm an electrician actually..:D . Do you have any idea on what the super lumen switch does ? It's 250w - 250 super lumen,400w - 400w super lumen..
It's too extend the use of your bulb. So when your bulb starts burning out you throw on that setting and should be able to get one more good harvest out of your light.

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hyroot

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^^^^^ uh nooo. Super lumens increases the lumen output. Which shortens the life of the bulb.
 

hyroot

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$50 bulbs...I piss that. IMHO a 600w Genesis would beat out two 315 Agros.
I don't. Tenthirty had 3 elite agros and they got great results. You would need to run both the mh and hps to come close to matcing the spectrum
who knows if genesis spd is real. A few companies tend to lie like solis tek. A digilux has a better spectrum than the genesis. 2 330's matched a 1000w digilux.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I don't. Tenthirty had 3 elite agros and they got great results. You would need to run both the mh and hps to come close to matcing the spectrum
who knows if genesis spd is real. A few companies tend to lie like solis tek. A digilux has a better spectrum than the genesis. 2 330's matched a 1000w digilux.
Digilux sucks. No doubt the Agros are amazing. Like I said, the Genesis looks to good to be true. I'm having a hard time finding more info on it. If the HPS specs are credible, then the Genesis is everything I'd want in bloom spectrum, PAR, intensity, and affordability.

On a 240v 315w CMH note...they sell step up step down transformers for around $50. Plus the $220 combo from advanced for each bulb, ballast, and socket combo. I'm debating on two of these, bare vert, on a light mover 'yoyo' style...
 

hyroot

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I don't trust those step ups to run that long. I'd just wait for the 120v. I don't know why its not out yet. Growers house has had the all in one package 120v for a while
 

kmog33

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^^^^^ uh nooo. Super lumens increases the lumen output. Which shortens the life of the bulb.
Ya but that's not the intended purpose from what I know you're only supposed to use this feature after you've already used your bulb for a couple harvests so that you can still pull new bulb yield from an older bulb...

It increases the electrical output whether or not it's at its ful capacity. So I guess if you wanted to.burn your bulb out fast you could use it with new bulbs. But it seems a bulb at full capacity can only put out the amount of lumens the bulb is made to put out so even.if you increase the electricity you will still have the same lumen output. Whereas if your filament is starting to burn out and you increase the electricity to get the bulb to perform at its full capacity even though it's not technically running at full capacity...

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RedCarpetMatches

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Advanced is making a minor tweak on their 120v kit due to cords getting hot and for accessibility. It was supposed to be available this week. I'm also debating on the agro (double glass) vs the single glass. The specs are damn near identical. Longevity and intensity going to the single glass. The UV comparison's what's baffling me. Agro has more UVB, which I want, but also more UVA and UVC which I don't want. Opinions?
 

RedCarpetMatches

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@ kmog...that's also what I read. Trying to find more grow journals with it.

PS...don't get Hy started on HPS lol, although he might lose on the Genises. I'm on a link hunt. High Time awards aren't credible to me.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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i veg with a combo of cmh and hps then go hps for the flower
2 315w CMHs would easily beat a regular 600 HPS. I look at CMHs like mini Suns. I've seen legit side by sides. My 400w retro CMH gave me more g/w than my 600w Horti in same conditions. That's when I never looked back.

However, I still cant find many grow journals or reviews on the Genesis HPS. It appears to be an amazing bulb. Any credible links anyone?
 

Alexander Supertramp

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I'm sorry to bust your nuts but could you share a store that ships WW this bulb ? I've got a 400w lumatek dimmable digital ballast that can operate 250w-400w.Which one would work best and how should i operate this bulb? I'm still new to this and i can be a PITA ^^
First CMH bulbs require magnetic hps ballasts to fire. And Phillips has discontinued production of CMH bulbs unfortunately. They are getting hard to find.
 

hyroot

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First CMH bulbs require magnetic hps ballasts to fire. And Phillips has discontinued production of CMH bulbs unfortunately. They are getting hard to find.
they only discontinued the retro white. They still make the allstart line and the elite agro line. Plus DNA lighting rebrands Philip bulbs and they sell alot of them. CMH bulbs are easy to find. Advanced tech lighting, growers house, bulb America, 1000 bulbs, monster gardens, greners, green coast, amazon, cycoptics, greenbeams, eBay. Magnetic ballasts last longer than digital. But the elite agros run on digital ballasts
 

qroox

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Actually i watched that review about an hour ago on youtube.To be honest,i actually watched all of their reviews.Nice products..:D . CMH seems to be the most efficient.. :D
 

coolj

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look you guys, go to homedepot, get a 240 outlet plug, some number ten wire, a double 20 or dpuble 30 breaker. its 3 wires tape two wires together on both ends. get you some flex conduit connect the two hots to the breaker and the third wire to the neutral bus bar. connect the 2 hots on the outlet plug and connect the neutral, plug in your light and turn on the breaker
 
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