Coffee?

canndo

Well-Known Member
The title here enumerates Hallucinogenic substances but we often address Kratom, poppies, and even meth.

The folks who inhabit this little backwater commonly demonstrate their creativity and resourcefulness in a variety of ways and pursuits so I figure I'll post another interesting past time for those members.

Some 25 years ago I happened to come across some green coffee beans, threw them in my pop corn popper and got crappy but drinkable brew. I acquired some cacao beans and ruined my popper.

Got a new popper and found that I was quickly roasting coffee that was far superior to any coffee that I was drinking. A few years later I found that caffine was interfering with my sleep so I quit.

Onward to six months ago when I discovered that home roasting had become a big deal. "Damn, I was at the forefront of a new fad...again...but failed to show off my foresight and ego".

But I did discover that I could again drink a cup or two each morning again without staring ruefully at the ceiling all night.


So, if you have not heard of it, if you enjoy coffee and caffine and like to do things at home, try this out. You might like a new, inexpensive hobby.

All you need is a particular sort of popcorn popper (and most of you tend to haunt garage sales and salvation army stores). Any popper you want must have VENTS, not a grill. Next you will need a Collender preferably metal, and a source of green beans, $7 to $10 a lb.

The process is simple, enjoyable and in short order it will yield fantastic specialty coffee from around the world. Far better than any coffee you may find even at your coffee shop.

Most interesting to me is the fact that the roast is piloted primarily by your sense of hearing.

Shall we start? Take your popper, your Callender and a jar for the finished beans out side. The smoke, though fragrant in the extreme, is not good for marriages or roommates. The chaff that is blown out in the process is messy as well.

Pour some beans into the popper. Make note of how many you use. The beans should almost immediately begin to swirl around in the popper. If this fails to happen in the first 30 seconds or so, it's too many and will result in an uneven roast. Now wait. Never ever leave your operation as the process is quick. Wait until you begin to hear the beans begin to pop.

How do you like your coffee?
City? (About the lightest palatable roast)
City plus? (Offering a fruity, bright cup)
Full City? (Yielding a more rounded, slightly chocolaty more full bodied brew)
Full City plus? (More dark, roasting, less sour perhaps a bit bitter..good bitter taste
Italian (more bitter, slightly smokey)
Vienna (burned, smokey, rich)

All these depend upon how long you go into the first crack or how long after that crack ends.

After your first crack there will be a pause until you begin to hear a more quiet, rice crispy hitting milk sort of sound. This is the second crack. You are now into the dark roasts and the longer you linger here the darker your roast. Most folks barely touch this stage but it can offer sublime flavors.

Where ever you opt to quit, realize that there will be some seconds of coasting, where the beans continue to cook even after they have been dumped out of your popper.

Dump your beans into the Collender and shift them around, cooling them as quickly as possible.

When they are at room temperature, pour them into a jar, preferably air tight. Now you wait for the beans to outgas. A day or two at least.

Those beans will get better for the next week but you will likely have fresher beans even two weeks later than you have ever had before.

Now grind and brew.

If you like coffee I think you will go well out of your way for this.

If you don't like coffee you may like this. And there is something special about the caffine buz as well.
 

GreenestBasterd

Well-Known Member
The title here enumerates Hallucinogenic substances but we often address Kratom, poppies, and even meth.

The folks who inhabit this little backwater commonly demonstrate their creativity and resourcefulness in a variety of ways and pursuits so I figure I'll post another interesting past time for those members.

Some 25 years ago I happened to come across some green coffee beans, threw them in my pop corn popper and got crappy but drinkable brew. I acquired some cacao beans and ruined my popper.

Got a new popper and found that I was quickly roasting coffee that was far superior to any coffee that I was drinking. A few years later I found that caffine was interfering with my sleep so I quit.

Onward to six months ago when I discovered that home roasting had become a big deal. "Damn, I was at the forefront of a new fad...again...but failed to show off my foresight and ego".

But I did discover that I could again drink a cup or two each morning again without staring ruefully at the ceiling all night.


So, if you have not heard of it, if you enjoy coffee and caffine and like to do things at home, try this out. You might like a new, inexpensive hobby.

All you need is a particular sort of popcorn popper (and most of you tend to haunt garage sales and salvation army stores). Any popper you want must have VENTS, not a grill. Next you will need a Collender preferably metal, and a source of green beans, $7 to $10 a lb.

The process is simple, enjoyable and in short order it will yield fantastic specialty coffee from around the world. Far better than any coffee you may find even at your coffee shop.

Most interesting to me is the fact that the roast is piloted primarily by your sense of hearing.

Shall we start? Take your popper, your Callender and a jar for the finished beans out side. The smoke, though fragrant in the extreme, is not good for marriages or roommates. The chaff that is blown out in the process is messy as well.

Pour some beans into the popper. Make note of how many you use. The beans should almost immediately begin to swirl around in the popper. If this fails to happen in the first 30 seconds or so, it's too many and will result in an uneven roast. Now wait. Never ever leave your operation as the process is quick. Wait until you begin to hear the beans begin to pop.

How do you like your coffee?
City? (About the lightest palatable roast)
City plus? (Offering a fruity, bright cup)
Full City? (Yielding a more rounded, slightly chocolaty more full bodied brew)
Full City plus? (More dark, roasting, less sour perhaps a bit bitter..good bitter taste
Italian (more bitter, slightly smokey)
Vienna (burned, smokey, rich)

All these depend upon how long you go into the first crack or how long after that crack ends.

After your first crack there will be a pause until you begin to hear a more quiet, rice crispy hitting milk sort of sound. This is the second crack. You are now into the dark roasts and the longer you linger here the darker your roast. Most folks barely touch this stage but it can offer sublime flavors.

Where ever you opt to quit, realize that there will be some seconds of coasting, where the beans continue to cook even after they have been dumped out of your popper.

Dump your beans into the Collender and shift them around, cooling them as quickly as possible.

When they are at room temperature, pour them into a jar, preferably air tight. Now you wait for the beans to outgas. A day or two at least.

Those beans will get better for the next week but you will likely have fresher beans even two weeks later than you have ever had before.

Now grind and brew.

If you like coffee I think you will go well out of your way for this.

If you don't like coffee you may like this. And there is something special about the caffine buz as well.
Really cool!

One of the best coffee’s I ever had was from Vietnam and roasted in butter. A client imported it and gave me a bag as a thank you for a job.
The beans would look almost fluffy where the butter had caramelised during roasting and half “popped” the beans open. To this day, I haven’t had anything anywhere near as good and It seems very hard to source this style of roasting done well from my experience.

Have you ever tried adding full fat butter to the beans prior to roasting? If not, would you think this may work in the popcoffeecorn machine?

I’ve also drank far too much coffee for many years and found, the want or withdrawals, are what makes me wake up in the early hours and not enough gives me a cracking headache by mid morning, ahhh the struggles haha.
 

grayeyes

Well-Known Member
Wow, how fancy! I was given some Kona beans and put them on a flat cookie sheet in an oven about 200 to 230. Kept stirring them until they were chocolate brown. Ground them up and it was great.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Wow, how fancy! I was given some Kona beans and put them on a flat cookie sheet in an oven about 200 to 230. Kept stirring them until they were chocolate brown. Ground them up and it was great.

That's pretty iffy, but if you liked that you will LOVE roasting in a popper...or better but dropping several hundred on an unknown hobby is not for the majority of us. I can afford a higher end roaster but have a thing about perfecting my approach with this common device. If and when my popper fails, I'll get something else.


But I assure you..if you are a coffee drinker, roasting your own beans and getting a half way decent burr grinder will bring a whole new dimension to your coffee.

Of course the typical Arabica bean that you get from specialty green been vendors (there, to me, is only one...sweet marias)Maria's, are fairly low in caffine. Once in a while they vend some robusta beans and of course you can find them elsewhere. Most of them are a bit harsh or woody but they do have a distinct kick..having in excess of twice the caffine as Arabica beans. I occasionally mix the two but the taste can be overwhelming.
 

grayeyes

Well-Known Member
Speaking of coffee and caffeine I had a friend who was once in charge of a vessel used in Anatarctica. They had leftover coffee on board apparently from Chile. In Chile they don't step on the caffeine like they do here or wash the coffee after roasting. One day after having a cup of this Chilean coffee I went and took a shower. When I got out I thought I left the coffee pot on. Turned out it wasn't the pot but ME that smelled like fresh brew coffee.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Speaking of coffee and caffeine I had a friend who was once in charge of a vessel used in Anatarctica. They had leftover coffee on board apparently from Chile. In Chile they don't step on the caffeine like they do here or wash the coffee after roasting. One day after having a cup of this Chilean coffee I went and took a shower. When I got out I thought I left the coffee pot on. Turned out it wasn't the pot but ME that smelled like fresh brew coffee.

I know of no "stepping" on caffine other than the manufacture of decaffeinated coffee and no one to my knowlege washes coffee after it is roasted. The life of the bean after it contacts any water is seriously diminished.
I have noticed the smell of coffee in my pee.
 

grayeyes

Well-Known Member
This was WAY beyond that little hint. I smelled like a freshly brewed cup of very strong coffee. I asked my buddy about it, who gave it to me, he laughed and said he noticed the same thing.
 
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