Companion plants for weed

farm hippie

farm hippie

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Does anyone know of companion plants for weed? For example, beans fix nitrogen in the soil especially when grown with corn. Plant the two together and yields increase or peanuts with corn or squash.
On the flip side some plants hinder each other fennel is not a good companion formost plants.
 
farm hippie

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farm hippie said:
Does anyone know of companion plants for weed? For example, beans fix nitrogen in the soil especially when grown with corn. Plant the two together and yields increase or peanuts with corn or squash.
On the flip side some plants hinder each other fennel is not a good companion formost plants.
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The forest or any natural ecosystems grow lush and vibrant if left alone.
My idea is to find an optimal natural environment for growing that will largely take care of itself indoors
 
mudballs

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there's info here about chamomile and tansy
http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/1233246-new-companion-planting-w-cannabis.html
it is my opinion that the avg. time growing (60-80 days) just isn't long enough to warrant it.
chamomile is said to be ready in 30days but why would i want additional roots sucking nutes from my mj.also there's maintaining the herbs height might make the benefits not worth it unless you let them grow natural where they get big and start shading the mj plant. it's a fascinating concept, symbiotic plant systems, but so far all i see worth it is the mycorhizae. also marigold is used. if i had plans to do a long term grow i would use white clover. benefits, somewhat shallow roots, can pack an insane amount in a small space and it would be cool to look for 4 leaf clovers while checking your plants. i buy white clover seed buy the pound, they germ fast and stay low so no worry about pruning or shading.transplanting will pretty much ruin them though.
 
farm hippie

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mudballs said:
there's info here about chamomile and tansy
http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/1233246-new-companion-planting-w-cannabis.html
it is my opinion that the avg. time growing (60-80 days) just isn't long enough to warrant it.
chamomile is said to be ready in 30days but why would i want additional roots sucking nutes from my mj.also there's maintaining the herbs height might make the benefits not worth it unless you let them grow natural where they get big and start shading the mj plant. it's a fascinating concept, symbiotic plant systems, but so far all i see worth it is the mycorhizae. also marigold is used. if i had plans to do a long term grow i would use white clover. benefits, somewhat shallow roots, can pack an insane amount in a small space and it would be cool to look for 4 leaf clovers while checking your plants. i buy white clover seed buy the pound, they germ fast and stay low so no worry about pruning or shading.transplanting will pretty much ruin them though.
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As a farmer I've learned that I'm actually growing soil more than anything else. When I bought my farm the previous owner used to plant clover in fall and then round up in spring then plant and fertilize. Needless to say soil was barren and dead. Finally getting it decent.
Anyway my idea is to set up a small 4x4 plot indoors trying to create as self contained and sustaining as possible using flora and fauna. It's just a concept. Kind of like hugelkulture
 
farm hippie

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Also the average growing time for most garden plants is 60-90 days. I'm not looking for a single grow but rather to develop a way that causes the soil environment to become richer and more robust over time so that my weed is part of a system that nature can nurture and constantly improve.
 
farm hippie

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We tend to think in northern term in regard to seasons and the like. Most weed was originally tropical with very little seasonal variation. Indoors a tropical environment is possible. So I would think that taking an approach as if I were in the rainforest that some MJ is native to would make sense
 
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After thoroughly reading that link I see mine is not a new idea. Way more experienced than I. Great resources there. Will definitely follow deeper. Glad to know there are growers out there who think nature knows best. I wonder what grows around MJ in the wild? In Asia you can find pot plants growing wild that are like trees and good high. Is mj a mostly forest plant or savannah or meadow plant or all the above in the wild? I know forest soil is more fungi dominated while prairie soil is more bacterium dominated.
 
mudballs

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oh ok so the 4x4 stays there and you never disturb soil except to pkant seedlings and then harvest. so you'd just have holes in the ecosystem. then refill the holes with soil? that's interesting. then i would look into some exotic Hostas.
http://www.nhhostas.com/miniature-hostas.htm
lemon thyme
and a winter pea. i want pics when you're set up :)
 
mudballs

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farm hippie said:
After thoroughly reading that link I see mine is not a new idea. Way more experienced than I. Great resources there. Will definitely follow deeper. Glad to know there are growers out there who think nature knows best. I wonder what grows around MJ in the wild? In Asia you can find pot plants growing wild that are like trees and good high. Is mj a mostly forest plant or savannah or meadow plant or all the above in the wild? I know forest soil is more fungi dominated while prairie soil is more bacterium dominated.
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all i know is mj is full sun 'annual summer weed' so it's habitat isn't all that restrictive.preferring sandy loam acidic soil.but as you know we tweak the living hell out of it and it's growing medium. full sun, ph'd soil the rest is imagination
 
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farm hippie said:
After thoroughly reading that link I see mine is not a new idea. Way more experienced than I. Great resources there. Will definitely follow deeper. Glad to know there are growers out there who think nature knows best. I wonder what grows around MJ in the wild? In Asia you can find pot plants growing wild that are like trees and good high. Is mj a mostly forest plant or savannah or meadow plant or all the above in the wild? I know forest soil is more fungi dominated while prairie soil is more bacterium dominated.
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Or is that why indicas evolved differently than sativas and therefor need different ecosystem entirely
 
farm hippie

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mudballs said:
oh ok so the 4x4 stays there and you never disturb soil except to pkant seedlings and then harvest. so you'd just have holes in the ecosystem. then refill the holes with soil? that's interesting. then i would look into some exotic Hostas.
http://www.nhhostas.com/miniature-hostas.htm
lemon thyme
and a winter pea. i want pics when you're set up :)
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will do with pics. May be a bit. Good point about holes. Just a thought..... Is cutting down/ removing the plant needed? Why not harvest buds and then do a tropical style "wet" season with increased light period.
 
mudballs

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farm hippie said:
Or is that why indicas evolved differently than sativas and therefor need different ecosystem entirely
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exactly..landraces evolved. we breed.i have no info on or personal exp. with perpetuals but i would think you would be able to. i main line no super cropping or the likes.

every once in a while i see a post like 'the re-veg worked!' check with those guys.
 
farm hippie

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Will check that out. I have no experience with reveging. But like most tropicals it can grow for years like mother plants do. Trick would be try two or three different environments each with an indica sativa and a hybrid? And see what does best where then continue to find tune from observation and eliminating the plants that don't do well in any given habitat.
 
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Since I only grow for myself an a few friends ideal would be to develop a natural system that is always improving by natural means. Or could take a different tack. And set up the environment, plant many plants and then selectively breed for that environment and or compatability with other plants while maintaining potency etc
 
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mudballs said:
exactly..landraces evolved. we breed.i have no info on or personal exp. with perpetuals but i would think you would be able to. i main line no super cropping or the likes.

every once in a while i see a post like 'the re-veg worked!' check with those guys.
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so then since plant evolution has to do with any given landrace strain having evolved to a specific set of environmental factors for that area. Then growing them would be best done by as closely as possible replicating the specific conditions that they evolved to including companion plants soil conditions temps etc.
So I could breed for habitat as well as the common traits ie potency etc. then I would eventually end up with a strain that will act predictably and reach full potential within a specific growing environment.
IMO that is one reason any given strain gets completely different results from different growing styles methods etc.
 
mudballs

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oh man you are reaching for the stars ain'tcha. i like that. from what i know genetic propensity for a given climatic enviro isn't something you can change in this lifetime. indica is from high altitudes, sativas are from sea level climates.breeding a sativa to do better than an indica at altitude would take, i think, thousands of years, or genetic alteration. the latter taking cost prohibitive measures to accomplish in a diy setting. i hate to be the negative nancy but let's get back on track here and get that 4x4 up and running first.
 
farm hippie

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mudballs said:
oh man you are reaching for the stars ain'tcha. i like that. from what i know genetic propensity for a given climatic enviro isn't something you can change in this lifetime. indica is from high altitudes, sativas are from sea level climates.breeding a sativa to do better than an indica at altitude would take, i think, thousands of years, or genetic alteration. the latter taking cost prohibitive measures to accomplish in a diy setting. i hate to be the negative nancy but let's get back on track here and get that 4x4 up and running first.
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8-) Will do. Finishing an auto grow now in the tent I plan to use. Will be done hopefully Christmas week. That's why I'm reasearching now.
You'd be surprised in how few generations of selective breeding can start showing results. Ok probably not surprised but why would isolating favorable response to a given environment be any different than say, potency or bud structure or flowering time?
Back to 4x4. I'm thinking 24 inches deep bed minimum complete with earthworms and stuff.
I do my home garden in raised beds and containers. Which I empty into compost pile(big pile I use a front loader) this eliminating the need to rotate crops. I have chickens cows and other shit producers that go into pile as well as ash from woodstove and household waste (not sewage) I use a 1000 watt light I can switch from Hps to mh :spew:
 
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