Comparing the 2 main RDWC designs (waterfall, undercurrent)

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Experts or people with these systems, what do you like and what would you do differently?
Assuming 4 grow sites with 5 gallon pails/buckets.

Common pieces:
  • 2-3 inch PVC pipes between the grow sites
  • Air stones + air pump
  • Water pump is inline and not submerged in the reservoir
Main Differences
  1. Undercurrent system: Water is pumped from the returns from the last two grow sites, falling into the reservoir. E.g.: CCH2O
    Side question, could that cause some grow site reservoirs to have lower water levels? (saw some threads)
  2. Waterfall system: Water is pumped from the reservoir, through 1/2-1 inch tubes, falling into the 4 grow sites. E.g.: PA Hydroponics
    Pipe splits need to be equal to have same water levels.
 
There is tons of info recently posted talking about all this. Search RDWC waterfall and check it out. Will link some here in a bit..
 
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Experts or people with these systems, what do you like and what would you do differently?
Assuming 4 grow sites with 5 gallon pails/buckets.

Common pieces:
  • 2-3 inch PVC pipes between the grow sites
  • Air stones + air pump
  • Water pump is inline and not submerged in the reservoir
Main Differences
  1. Undercurrent system: Water is pumped from the returns from the last two grow sites, falling into the reservoir. E.g.: CCH2O
    Side question, could that cause some grow site reservoirs to have lower water levels? (saw some threads)
  2. Waterfall system: Water is pumped from the reservoir, through 1/2-1 inch tubes, falling into the 4 grow sites. E.g.: PA Hydroponics
    Pipe splits need to be equal to have same water levels.
Waterfall setup allows you to ditch the air pump/line/stones entirely.
 
I along with about a dozen other members here use waterfall setups with no airstones
Awesome, one less complexity. The waterfall must not touch, be falling into the netpot/roots right? Some netpots I'm planning are not centered and on the corner (smaller plants, multiple).
 
Awesome, one less complexity. The waterfall must not touch, be falling into the netpot/roots right? Some netpots I'm planning are not centered and on the corner (smaller plants, multiple).
I wouldn't suggest the waterfall be running right on the roots, but ita pretty idiot-proof. Just have an inlet of water coming into the container with a few inches of distance for the water to fall.
 
I started to read that. Was there anyone who did a test with and without air stones?
I started with air stones, airwalker questioned why and then I swapped it to waterfall. Assuming DO went up, what I noticed is water stabilized even better, it circulated better, ph/ec readings quicker. It’s kinda like peace of mind, it’s just working and it works well. I don’t see why anyone would test the two.

Here’s what I ended up doing, there’s a lot of info and ideas and very knowledgeable people here on RIU.

 
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