Criminal record for marijuana possession would be ‘cruel' punishment, says judge

gb123

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TRURO - A criminal conviction for simple marijuana possession would be "unfair" and "cruel" punishment given the federal government's stated intention to legalize the drug, a judge said Monday.



"I cannot sit here and not be aware of the position taken by the federal government in Ottawa ...," Judge Warren Zimmer said, during sentencing of a Bible Hill man charged with marijuana possession.

"It would be cruel to sentence him in such a way today that he would wind up with a criminal record," Zimmer said, adding it "would be very unfair" under the circumstances to render a conviction that could hamper the man's ability to earn a living and support his two children, after the Trudeau government had said it is planning to proceed with legalization of marijuana.

Michael LeBlanc, 26, of 18 Village Ct., Bible Hill, was charged last March with 650 grams of marijuana "shake" that defence lawyer Al Begin said he used for medicinal purposes.

Begin said his client's doctor acknowledged that LeBlanc would make a good candidate for a medical marijuana license but he would not issue it because it goes against the physician's personal beliefs.

LeBlanc received a conditional discharge along with six months probation and a $500 donation to the Truro Boys and Girls Club, as recommended by his lawyer. He was also given a $100 victim surcharge fine.

Zimmer went on to say that he would be inclined to sentence LeBlanc the same way "even if Parliament had not made not those statements."

But he also warned LeBlanc that the drug is still illegal and "possession of marijuana is off the books for you, so to speak," unless he were to make proper arrangements to obtain a medicinal license for its use.

"You've gone about it the wrong way by having your own supply available to you," Zimmer said
 

ttystikk

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Half assed ruling from a half assed judge.

If the judge had any balls at all, he would have found the man innocent because of the physician's conflicting personal beliefs prevented him from getting the necessary licensing.

But one does not go to court to find justice anymore, just pandering.
 

torontomeds

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Half assed ruling from a half assed judge.

If the judge had any balls at all, he would have found the man innocent because of the physician's conflicting personal beliefs prevented him from getting the necessary licensing.

But one does not go to court to find justice anymore, just pandering.
I was sort of thinking the same thing, "oh you have a need, oh it will be legal soon, oh let me slap your hand and ban you from cannabis until you find a shady dr that you can pay for your weed script" fuck out of here with that BS. The nerve.
 

qwizoking

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Its actually a harsh sentence,
Considering i got a similar outcome for 265 plants ...



seriously?...maybe up there.. i would be jumping for joy, looking to the sky about my great miracle.
people would be finding jesus and shit

i have buddies that got hit with $505,000 bail and 40 years
when i got raided sept 2014


"defence lawyer Al Begin said he used for medicinal purposes."

for all i know this is an outright lie...
its a defense lawyer man

Begin said his client's doctor acknowledged that LeBlanc would make a good candidate for a medical marijuana license but he would not issue it because it goes against the physician's personal beliefs.

ok, if he would testify that, what is said is true........
again for all i know it goes against bis personal medical beliefs that he doesnt need medical cannabis

you have to remember this is a lawyer talking..far more corrupt than any medical folk. the whole basis is finding loopholes
 

gb123

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Half assed ruling from a half assed judge.

If the judge had any balls at all, he would have found the man innocent because of the physician's conflicting personal beliefs prevented him from getting the necessary licensing.

But one does not go to court to find justice anymore, just pandering.
had to leave room for our regulations..:roll:
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Since when can a Dr not prescribe something they themselves agree would help but being against there personal beliefs I say this is bs
It happens all the time. Some doctors won't prescribe birth control or perform abortions and a bunch came out and said they will not participate in assisted dying, based on beliefs.
This was a missed opportunity by an obviously discount lawyer. Not only could he have argued the medical need more and put the blame squarely on HC and the doctors, but more importantly he could have argued that 'shake' is not bud and does not produce the 'high' while still giving relief. The government is determined to try to regulate thc content, cases like this might give them an education. Straight up, the lawyer was either lazy or just plain useless, and the guy should appeal.
 

qwizoking

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ya, shake can go for a bill a zone here.
i know a guy he gets 5lbs shipped from cali weekly..of shake.
let me in on some of that

my point was that(over a lb) isnt medical, prolly wasnt shake. judge implied he was growing, if it was shake and he has over a lb one could assume he harvested much more than that. more than what yiu can grow legally in most places. the whole story seems fishy. howd he get busted with it.. i dont know why this didnt go through the last edit

lol even you know thats not true gb
however you know why im also in medical threads.. ive never actually seen you post anything intelligent or having to do with the properties of medical cannabis.

i can actually quote where yiu give horrible advice.
remember the lecithin discussion?


oh ok... you deleted. good decision
 
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doingdishes

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ya, shake can go for a bill a zone here.
i know a guy he gets 5lbs shipped from cali weekly..of shake.
let me in on some of that

my point was that(over a lb) isnt medical, prolly wasnt shake. judge implied he was growing, if it was shake and he has over a lb one could assume he harvested much more than that. more than what yiu can grow legally in most places. the whole story seems fishy. howd he get busted with it.. i dont know why this didnt go through the last edit

lol even you know thats not true gb
however you know why im also in medical threads.. ive never actually seen you post anything intelligent or having to do with the properties of medical cannabis.

i can actually quote where yiu give horrible advice.
remember the lecithin discussion?


oh ok... you deleted. good decision
why is over a LB not medical? i use that when i am making oil for gel caps
 

gb123

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ya, shake can go for a bill a zone here.
i know a guy he gets 5lbs shipped from cali weekly..of shake.
let me in on some of that

my point was that(over a lb) isnt medical, prolly wasnt shake. judge implied he was growing, if it was shake and he has over a lb one could assume he harvested much more than that. more than what yiu can grow legally in most places. the whole story seems fishy. howd he get busted with it.. i dont know why this didnt go through the last edit

lol even you know thats not true gb
however you know why im also in medical threads.. ive never actually seen you post anything intelligent or having to do with the properties of medical cannabis.

i can actually quote where yiu give horrible advice.
remember the lecithin discussion?


oh ok... you deleted. good decision

(: we know you're awesome buuuuddy.
you can pick up your hero biscuit now
 

qwizoking

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it could be sure.
but who carries weight like that on them for med use..it doesnt say how he was caught. questionable

his product would make 130 grams of hash oil more if its real potent... that can be used medically sure, but lets be honest thats enough to last months, using medically at a gram a day.. and gives a little over 500 of these which i take 1 daily atm.



the whole story is questionable.
 

gb123

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it could be sure.
but who carries weight like that on them for med use..it doesnt say how he was caught. questionable

his product would make 130 grams of hash oil more if its real potent... that can be used medically sure, but lets be honest thats enough to last months, using medically at a gram a day.. and gives a little over 500 of these which i take 1 daily atm.



the whole story is questionable.
:lol:...sorry Mr...
You are certainly a hero .

why just a g a day??? did you miss that part?

Fool!!!
 

qwizoking

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miss what?
because a gram a day is enough to kill cancer, do anything you need to do medically. im not trying to stay high, i feel bad for those people...

a gram of hash oil can take 5-10 grams of bud. depending frost level, which does not correlate to med properties necessarily


but thank you, i wouldnt say hero though
you should try and step up to the plate once in a while
 

gb123

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If you say only a gram a day is good, who am I to say other wise (:

Up to the plate... :lol:
You're classic. ;)
 
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bcbreeder

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Judges Sentencing decisions are heavily influenced by case law on the notion of similarity
So if some dude with some sort of medical need and a kilo can argue under similar circumstances
This is where some of the big expensive precedent cases and the sentencing result can be an advantage
For the little guy, so if some bc compassion club grower after an expensive trial gets a discharge absolute , or conditional
You can say me too even if your a small mom and pop med grower and not one of the elites.
 
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