Crispy plant in flower! Wtf.. help me out

Organicgrow42

Well-Known Member
So I just had a hand on this plant 2 weeks ago. I can't say for sure if I have or not since then. It was against my far wall that gets adequate light.

I've been having issue w my girl scout cookies...it starts with major purpling and then yellowing and necrosis and then this.

I have been trying to get help w that thinking it's just the gsc.....well I went to go grab this guy to put on my dark room because it's been 10 weeks and it's crisped up! Whole thing!

Feels like buds that are hanging to dry. Not kidding, exactly like them.

WTF. Help me out. Something very bad is happening on my garden....

I grow in a mix of roots organic original and 707, EWC, Perlite.
They are top dressed at time of flip and then again 4 weeks in and get botanical teas, aloe, coconut ect.
Room temp about 75 and RH about 50% Watering about every 3 days.

I grow organic, no bottles.

As you can see from pic 2, the buds looked fine! This is a god bud plant.

Help a brotha out!
 

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So I just had a hand on this plant 2 weeks ago. I can't say for sure if I have or not since then. It was against my far wall that gets adequate light.

I've been having issue w my girl scout cookies...it starts with major purpling and then yellowing and necrosis and then this.

I have been trying to get help w that thinking it's just the gsc.....well I went to go grab this guy to put on my dark room because it's been 10 weeks and it's crisped up! Whole thing!

Feels like buds that are hanging to dry. Not kidding, exactly like them.

WTF. Help me out. Something very bad is happening on my garden....

I grow in a mix of roots organic original and 707, EWC, Perlite.
They are top dressed at time of flip and then again 4 weeks in and get botanical teas, aloe, coconut ect.
Room temp about 75 and RH about 50% Watering about every 3 days.

I grow organic, no bottles.

As you can see from pic 2, the buds looked fine! This is a god bud plant.

Help a brotha out!
 
2 number 1 issues in most gardens are this,1) over feeding-your plants will not eat everything you give them. There is always something left behind that adds to the next feeding schedule, etc. Always feed low. Your plants can not process more ppm than the amount of energy being provided. I.E. 400w,600w,1000w, etc... that being said, what is your light source? Media being used? Nutrients being used? Are they organic? Or are they salt based? How frequently do you feed? How frequently do you water? Soil ph as it stands right now? Low ph is usually a sign they are overfed. Do you have pests? Do they fly or crawl? 2) Too much light. Light equals heat. Too much of one equals too much of the other. Never a good thing for your flowers. I am a nobody. I only know what I think I know. What works for me may not work for you. There is an 'art' to this hobby. I am a student, just like you. Although, I have been a student for over 30years. I also manage a Hydro shop. Have been doing that for quite a while now. I do not know it all, nor do I claim to. I will help you to understand what you are doing if you'd like. "Less is more." lesson number 1. Means little to you now. It will all come together in time. You'll see. From a sells man point of view with a gardeners point of view mixed in with it....... gardening is as easy as 1,2,3. Meaning....1.Controlling your environment. You environment directly affects how your garden will feed and drink. 2.Controlling the food. Understanding how to feed, when to feed, when to water, and the frequency of waterings. 3.Controlling your harvest/storage. Controlling how fast or slow you dry things out. Trim or not to trim. Storage of your harvest. If you do not have control of your environment you will never really have control of the food. Understand this. It's very important. I have many questions for you. The answers you provide will draw me a clear picture of where your understanding is at. Want more info? Just ask.
 

greasemonkeymann

Well-Known Member
I've been having issue w my girl scout cookies...it starts with major purpling and then yellowing and necrosis and then this.

I have been trying to get help w that thinking it's just the gsc.....well I went to go grab this guy to put on my dark room because it's been 10 weeks and it's crisped up! Whole thing!

Feels like buds that are hanging to dry. Not kidding, exactly like them.

Watering about every 3 days.

!
at the risk of sounding like an ass...
looks to me that you shoulda watered every TWO days my man.
that plant is loooong dead.
it'll probably smoke alright though, I have cured plants while they are still in the ground, actually turn out nice, the cure is reaaal slow.
I HATE the GSC..
great smoke, but such a unwashed-cunt to grow.
 
So I just had a hand on this plant 2 weeks ago. I can't say for sure if I have or not since then. It was against my far wall that gets adequate light.

I've been having issue w my girl scout cookies...it starts with major purpling and then yellowing and necrosis and then this.

I have been trying to get help w that thinking it's just the gsc.....well I went to go grab this guy to put on my dark room because it's been 10 weeks and it's crisped up! Whole thing!

Feels like buds that are hanging to dry. Not kidding, exactly like them.

WTF. Help me out. Something very bad is happening on my garden....

I grow in a mix of roots organic original and 707, EWC, Perlite.
They are top dressed at time of flip and then again 4 weeks in and get botanical teas, aloe, coconut ect.
Room temp about 75 and RH about 50% Watering about every 3 days.

I grow organic, no bottles.

As you can see from pic 2, the buds looked fine! This is a god bud plant.

Help a brotha out!
 
Organics can and do come in a bottle. Just to clear that point up. Even with a top dress product it is still very easy to over do it. Just take longer to come thru is all. With organics you should feed once and water in at least three times. Allows plants time to use it. Ok, it's like this. If you are going to do organics then you need to encourage biological life. Micro organisms, beneficial bacterias and fungi. Nutrition by itself means nothing. You must encourage the microbials. They break down the organics and make them available for uptake. S.O.S, Microbelife, Liquid Karma--botanicare, Trinity--roots, it's a catalyst for the microbes. In other words---food for your microbes. Hygrozym----helps to breakdown organic matter and dead root matter for uptake. Also cleans the roots, good stuff! With salt based products your watching the plants reactiveness, catering to what she tells you. With organics, you promote root zone health. Big roots equals big fruits. Undeniable fact.
What is the PH of your soil? Humidity is ok, a bit lower would be better. 35-45% in flower. 75 degree temps are good, although I prefer 70-74. Genetic specific. Also it helps to control pests---mites do not like the cooler temps.

Girl Scout cookies? lol....Sensitive plant. Careful with the amount of food given---less is more with her. Also, she is sensitive to light intensity, very! She also does not care for too much air flow, nor does she care for being over watered. It took quite a while for us to nail her down, so to speak. She definitely prefers organics to all other foods. Um, the best results for quality, not quantity, were obtained thru using Happy Frog (fox farm) soil. Minimal feeding needed.

I have a curiosity about your water supply. Municipal or well? Or mountain stream? Do you R.O.? Reverse Osmosis.
Either way, I need to know what your soil PH is. As it is right now. It will tell me what I need to know. PH and Moisture are related. Meaning one affects the other. Too wet-low PH. Too over fed-low PH. Without me standing right next to you I can only speculate. Also giving a complete picture of what your regiment is. Many people will try to minimize their part in all of this. I see it every day on the job.
Anyhow....many moons ago I too had this similar experience happen to me. Took a bit to nail down that it was more than one thing going on. More importantly, I was the problem or at least part of it. Too much food with too much light with too much water equals an unbalanced root zone with extreme root issues and PH issues. Too much food=low PH. Too much water=low PH. Also=root rot.

So....what container size are you using?
How long have they been in this container?
Do you use PH adjusters?
How often do you need to water?
How much water do you use with each watering?
Is there run off?
Well water?
Town water?
Mt. water?
Temp. at the root zone? Wood floor? Concrete?
Are there pests in your garden? In your soil?
Does the container have a funny rotten smell about it?= root rot, over watering. Amount AND frequency.
Light wattage and distance from plants? Air cooled or open unit?
Understand your environment WILL influence how your babies grow. Another undeniable fact. Everything in your environment is connected. Lights. Temps. Humidity. Circulation. etc..... one ripple affects everything else.

PH of your soil is needed------accurately. NOT the 12$ cheap jobs that always end up reading 7.0
Pick the worst one and water in a bit at a time(slowly over time) until you get about 2 cups worth of run off out the bottom. Collect that run off and stick a PH meter(liquid meter)in the solution and make note of the value. Next test for TDS(PPM) and E.C., make note of this as well. This can give you a relative idea where you are with the food/root situation. These values along with the soil PH will draw you a very clear picture of what is happening in your roots(once you understand it all). Takes some time and practice. Do this with all problem containers. Less is more. I'll watch for your response and reply when I can. Hope these points help.
 

DonBrennon

Well-Known Member
"Less is more." lesson number 1.
For a person who's had a hydro store mentality for 15 years..........and coming from a hydro store manager, that's probably one of the best bits of advice, you'll ever get off a hydro store manager!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not having a go, I honetly salute you sir :)
 
For a person who's had a hydro store mentality for 15 years..........and coming from a hydro store manager, that's probably one of the best bits of advice, you'll ever get off a hydro store manager!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not having a go, I honetly salute you sir :)
Many thanks! Gardener first!! Salesman second. Always. I will sale anyone anything they want. BUT, if I know of other options I will present them to the customer. I always let them make the choice. Little Johnny home-grow is as important, if not more so than Big Johnny. They always appreciate that little extra. Pays off in the long run every time. :)
 

Mr Roboto

Well-Known Member
Organics can and do come in a bottle. Just to clear that point up. Even with a top dress product it is still very easy to over do it. Just take longer to come thru is all. With organics you should feed once and water in at least three times. Allows plants time to use it. Ok, it's like this. If you are going to do organics then you need to encourage biological life. Micro organisms, beneficial bacterias and fungi. Nutrition by itself means nothing. You must encourage the microbials. They break down the organics and make them available for uptake. S.O.S, Microbelife, Liquid Karma--botanicare, Trinity--roots, it's a catalyst for the microbes. In other words---food for your microbes. Hygrozym----helps to breakdown organic matter and dead root matter for uptake. Also cleans the roots, good stuff! With salt based products your watching the plants reactiveness, catering to what she tells you. With organics, you promote root zone health. Big roots equals big fruits. Undeniable fact.
What is the PH of your soil? Humidity is ok, a bit lower would be better. 35-45% in flower. 75 degree temps are good, although I prefer 70-74. Genetic specific. Also it helps to control pests---mites do not like the cooler temps.

Girl Scout cookies? lol....Sensitive plant. Careful with the amount of food given---less is more with her. Also, she is sensitive to light intensity, very! She also does not care for too much air flow, nor does she care for being over watered. It took quite a while for us to nail her down, so to speak. She definitely prefers organics to all other foods. Um, the best results for quality, not quantity, were obtained thru using Happy Frog (fox farm) soil. Minimal feeding needed.

I have a curiosity about your water supply. Municipal or well? Or mountain stream? Do you R.O.? Reverse Osmosis.
Either way, I need to know what your soil PH is. As it is right now. It will tell me what I need to know. PH and Moisture are related. Meaning one affects the other. Too wet-low PH. Too over fed-low PH. Without me standing right next to you I can only speculate. Also giving a complete picture of what your regiment is. Many people will try to minimize their part in all of this. I see it every day on the job.
Anyhow....many moons ago I too had this similar experience happen to me. Took a bit to nail down that it was more than one thing going on. More importantly, I was the problem or at least part of it. Too much food with too much light with too much water equals an unbalanced root zone with extreme root issues and PH issues. Too much food=low PH. Too much water=low PH. Also=root rot.

So....what container size are you using?
How long have they been in this container?
Do you use PH adjusters?
How often do you need to water?
How much water do you use with each watering?
Is there run off?
Well water?
Town water?
Mt. water?
Temp. at the root zone? Wood floor? Concrete?
Are there pests in your garden? In your soil?
Does the container have a funny rotten smell about it?= root rot, over watering. Amount AND frequency.
Light wattage and distance from plants? Air cooled or open unit?
Understand your environment WILL influence how your babies grow. Another undeniable fact. Everything in your environment is connected. Lights. Temps. Humidity. Circulation. etc..... one ripple affects everything else.

PH of your soil is needed------accurately. NOT the 12$ cheap jobs that always end up reading 7.0
Pick the worst one and water in a bit at a time(slowly over time) until you get about 2 cups worth of run off out the bottom. Collect that run off and stick a PH meter(liquid meter)in the solution and make note of the value. Next test for TDS(PPM) and E.C., make note of this as well. This can give you a relative idea where you are with the food/root situation. These values along with the soil PH will draw you a very clear picture of what is happening in your roots(once you understand it all). Takes some time and practice. Do this with all problem containers. Less is more. I'll watch for your response and reply when I can. Hope these points help.
I agree looks like a p overload and was locked out
 

bertaluchi

Well-Known Member
What are you using for cal/mag? I had major issues until I started adding cal/mag to my regimen. Lots of bull shit products out there but cal/mag really helped me dial my garden in. No more dead or burnt leaves
 

GreenSanta

Well-Known Member
Looks like fire to me. If the buds, the actual flowers, aredry to the touch like they started drying, well yeah something went wrong. Otherwise, i see green stems and a plant completely starved and perfectly ready for harvest, I kindA like when my plants look like that at harvest makes for a great smoke.
 
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