Dark energy theory wrong? Is nickel the key to understanding the fate of the universe

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Anyway, I have been researching the universe and physics/astrophysics for a long time now and ive come across something that it seems half the scientific community of astrophysicists havent been taking into consideration, when you try to measure dark energy you use la supernova, a type of supernova that is always of the same energy and fades at a predictable rate, they result when a white dwarf star becomes too large from sucking in gas from a binary companion to support its own pressure and collapses, which is a universal constant, but now it seems nickel 56 level is what determines the brightness of a supernova explosion, the energy released is always the same, but the brightness we measure to tell how quickly they are receding is not......so, what do you guys think?

Sorry could you repeat the question I was busy reading Penthouse. Ya know the real stories like how the girls are becomeing Doctors as they spread thier ass cheeks.

StonedPony said:

Sorry could you repeat the question I was busy reading Penthouse. Ya know the real stories like how the girls are becomeing Doctors as they spread thier ass cheeks.

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lol you sure your not my dad?

It varies as the universe expands. The supernovas are at different locations in the universe, new and old. The Universe expands faster towards the middle and slows near the outer edge.

I once read that it is proposed that our universe is expanding at the rate of light speed. The universe can only expand as far as light has reached since the universe was formed?

when will the universe contact because of the expansion? Or is our universe stable enough to continue expanding forever? infinite?

I'm high.

Balzac89 said:

lol you sure your not my dad?

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NO comment I pay enough child support as it is LOL

Balzac89 said:

It varies as the universe expands. The supernovas are at different locations in the universe, new and old. The Universe expands faster towards the middle and slows near the outer edge.

I once read that it is proposed that our universe is expanding at the rate of light speed. The universe can only expand as far as light has reached since the universe was formed?

when will the universe contact because of the expansion? Or is our universe stable enough to continue expanding forever? infinite?

I'm high.

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what if its expanding with in itself.

It is. The components of molecules are being pulled further apart.

i meant deeper into its self, like it expands to the point were it reaches its self and then penatrates, sorta overlapping. just so vast we never noticed

dude.....like.....whhoa......its mind bottling

it always seemed to me that they "made up" dark matter to fit their current physics principles. we see that the stars have more mass than they should, so we say there is "dark matter" that we cant see or detect. but its there because our math IS correct and there IS more mass. but what if our physics principles dont work in that situation? what if there is something new to be discovered, which will reveal why that "extra mass" is there? what if were wrong?

I read about it in astronomy. The dark matter is the result of the big bang. Molecules are only exist because they were not destroyed. I wish i could remember the name of the things.

hmm. according to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/universe/questions_and_ideas/dark_matter/
dark matter was proposed because there was essentially too much gravity for that amount of matter. im just sayin, instead of "inventing"(wrong word?) dark matter, why not also suggest that our physics COULD be wrong? i do find it unlikely that gravity would change like that, but who knows?

if u can say something is there, even though u cant detect it.... why cant u also suggest a breakdown of our gravity principles? to me, both are just as likely. maybe gravity does change for some reason we have yet to find out.

we have yet to discover the elusive "gravity wave". what happened when we discovered light waves? how much did that change our view on the universe? because of that knowledge, we have discovered TONS of new things. if we were to find the gravity waves, it would show us something new for sure

im too high

Balzac89 said:

It varies as the universe expands. The supernovas are at different locations in the universe, new and old. The Universe expands faster towards the middle and slows near the outer edge.

I once read that it is proposed that our universe is expanding at the rate of light speed. The universe can only expand as far as light has reached since the universe was formed?

when will the universe contact because of the expansion? Or is our universe stable enough to continue expanding forever? infinite?

I'm high.

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The acutal universe an the observable universe may be very different.
The images of galaxys we see may be light that has circumnavigated the entire universe.
We may be seeing far fewer galaxys, just at different points in time.
lol

Hawkings believes the universe will not re-colapse into a big bang.
He believes it will spread out tell its energy is gone an freezes up, an thats it.

I advise watching the TV series "Through the Wormhole" if it hasn't been mentioned yet. Some of the same type of shit but combined with theories about all existence....all that jazz.

Actually dark matter has been proven to exist a few times now, its pretty vital to galaxy formation and its been detected and traced in the cosmic microwave background studies, among a few others by nasa and some well known astronomy programs at various colleges in the us, and in every supercomputer simulation of the universe based on the laws of physics without dark matter galaxies fail to form and the universe just quickly falls apart and fails to become like ours(including the biggest single in the world run by nasa) but its good to question things. You never know, you could end up being right. Gravity wave specific enhanced detectors have just recently been put out into space, so we might find out soon, The extra mass of baryonic dark matter has been explained/found, Many/most/probally all galaxies have been found to have huge numbers of nearly invisible dwarm galaxies and lots of white dwarf stars in huge areas, something that we did not know about until very recently

The universe is inflating faster than light speed. although it is also important to realize the universe is probally Incredibley larger than we currently know, once an object reaches a certain point the energy(be it x-rays. gamma rays, normol photons, etc) is no longer able to reach us in any readable form and since we can see the same rough distance out in all directions we would have to of been the center of the big bang. Which is incredibley unlikely. The thought that some parts of the universe are inflating than others is an interesting one and their is evidence dark energy must have been much weaker in the past up till the universe was a certain age(cant remember off the top of my head, somewhere in the billions of years, 8-10 is what im thinking,). So that could be.
Thanks all for reading my thread, im surprised i got any respones. lol. I find astrophysics extremely interesting.

darkdestruction420 said:

......?
Anyway, I have been researching the universe and physics/astrophysics for a long time now and ive come across something that it seems half the scientific community of astrophysicists havent been taking into consideration, when you try to measure dark energy you use la supernova, a type of supernova that is always of the same energy and fades at a predictable rate, they result when a white dwarf star becomes too large from sucking in gas from a binary companion to support its own pressure and collapses, which is a universal constant, but now it seems nickel 56 level is what determines the brightness of a supernova explosion, the energy released is always the same, but the brightness we measure to tell how quickly they are receding is not......so, what do you guys think?

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I always thought of the whole dark energy thing as an exceedingly half assed explanation.

Sad thing is We'll never know what is right and what is wrong with most of this stuff, we'll have been dead for trillions of years by that time. It's crazy to think about how short our lifespan is compared to those sorts of numbers. Also makes me feel better about humanities destruction of nature though, once humans are extinct even if we fuck up everything thousands of times worse that we have now it wont take the earth more than 30-50 million years to be completely recovered and new species evolved for that world. We've had much worse mass extinctions in the past and the earth has recovered and flourished everytime. Even if the planet was rid of all macroscopic life after another 100 million years we'd probably see fairly complex organisms which would evolve further and eventually new species would rise to fill the niches left by their predecessor extinctions.

I'm kinda pissed honestly that I wont get to see how everything ends, but then I'm comforted by the fact that I'm not the only one. ^_^

Current physics is completely busted. If for nothing else, the fact that it is mostly theories still (mind you theories are unproven ideas). Dark energy is just another example of this. Check this site out http://milesmathis.com/mond.html

If you skip down to the dark matter section this man explains in great detail why it (dark matter/energy) is bunk (he never mentions nickel). He also covers the myriad other problems with physics. Hope this enlightens you a bit.

I'll check it out, im always interested in alternatives to what is consindered fact, we've seen our whole thinking change overnight before in science a few times.