Day 5 in flowering, problems after neem spray

sdkid

Active Member
Pretty weird leaves are curling up and down, yellow marking. All started after the fucking neem oil spray, shouldnt of done that.

Water temp is at 68
pH 5.9-6.0
EC 1.4
PPM 990 @ 6.8 conversion factor
 

AZGanja

Member
While I believe you that these
problems arose after using the Neem oil, I can hardly
believe these problems are from the use of Neem itself.

Did you apply Neem oil for a specific reason(s) (ie: you noticed bugs, larvae,
etc) or was it just preventative?

I'm using a smart phone laying in bed right now so I
the images aren't super easy for me to see...but in one of those pics, it looked to me like the tips of the leaves were "burnt" (too many nutes)...is that correct?

What is your feeding schedule (how often/how much)? Aside from what looks like nute burn on the one, it quite possibly be a deficiency. I've subscribed - interested in what Neem oil you using - commercial product or are you mixing your own from concentrate. Neem oil is your best friend and I've not heard Neem causing these types of problems.

A friend of mine uses a product from Green Light called Neem-II, it is a Insecticide, Miticide & Fungicide. It prevents numerous pests, including spider mites, as well as prevent and cure plants with fungus problems.

Peace.
 

honkeytown

Well-Known Member
they look burned with a little lockout...bring your ph down to 5.8 and back off the nutes a little...ec of prolly around .8 to 1 :)
 

cowboylogic

Well-Known Member
I doubt the neem did that. Looks more like some nute burn. Overfed. As already said. Back down on the nutes and monitor that ph a bit closer.
 

sdkid

Active Member
I used the neem at recommended strength (w/ dish soap). It also did some damage to my clones which i toss out, caused soft browning on the top of the leaves.

Neem was sprayed because i saw 1-2 small caterpillar/worm looking creature over in veg area and i didnt want to risk the flowering room so i sprayed them.


EC is at 1.4

pH is at 6.0 going to bring it down to 5.8 in a sec.

My veg nutes was 1.9 EC and the plants were doing fine with it until the neem came on.
 

iscrog4food

Active Member
Neem should be reserved in case of severe emergency. Also even though it is highly reccomended (from soma, jorge Cervantes, and basically all the old school guys) there have been studies that have listed the active ingredient in neem to be a terciary carcinagen when smoked. The study said only after the process of sublimation (so not if you eat it) but still i am not taking my chances. For every problem there is a cure and you dont need to use chemicals unless it is a severe problem. I used to use neem only for spider mites but now i dont even use it for that (predetor mites rock!)
 

sdkid

Active Member
Yeah, the new leaves seem to be curling down a little, and on some other plants, their doing fine.
 

sohail

Member
i've just experienced the same issue, but way more severe than yours. Some guy i was chatting to on the net said to use neem oil, so i got myself 50ml of neem oil and mixed it with 500ml of water, no detergent was added. Anyway i sprayed it all over my 1.5meter plant, and every single leaf on my baby has fried, literally fried, they are crispy, and have fallen off one by one. i washed it all down using a soap mixture, and gave it a shower with plain water, let's see if it can be revived. this was three days ago, no new leaves have appeared yet.
 

honkeytown

Well-Known Member
you have over nuted your plants...period...thats all....curling leaves falling off is not from neem!!!!!!....stop thinking too much about growing and stop adding bullshit to your mix when its obviously your ph being off tilt....wtf...stop killing your plants!!!!!! dont add anything more to the mix....just flush with a regular dose of nutes and watch...maybe...they survive...omg...how many days ago did i say this....stop adding bullshit...fuck neem...you need to be loving properly ph'd water right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i gave you that many exclamation marks so hopefully you realize....stop adding and reduce the amnt of ullshit you throw at your plants...it will kill them.
 
Top