DEA trolling Colorado... HEADS UP!

MacGuyver4.2.0

Well-Known Member
Just a heads up to all:
The DEA is ACTIVELY trolling the state of Colorado, looking for busts to make NOW and in the near future. How do I know?

Because I met with one of thier scumbag trolls by answering a Craigslist ad. A close friend of mine also went with me to 'meet' this strange out of town fellow who said he was looking to setup shop here in the Colorado area. My friend works in the security field, so he is valuable to me for more reasons than I can count. I didn't say anyone was coming with me either and the other guy looked pissed that I brought someone along. :mrgreen:

Anyways, we meet with this stranger, he has a rental car, and says he's from out of state. We ask for some positive ID, he doesn't want to show us any.(claims ID theft a concern). We ask if he will consent to a pat-down and radio sweep (checks for bugs that transmit any conversation) and he says no reason to, he's clean. BS. Basically this jerk is looking for targets to hit NOW and in the very near future. He places Craigslist ads and wants to meet with you, to discuss things further. He will size you up and ask what growing methods you use, and what size your grow is. If you say Hydro he lights up like a pinball machine and gets real interested in your op. Wants to know how much you can provide and when, how many plants you grow, if you can grow at least 100 or more and what strains can you provide. After we decided this guy was FED, we told him we were uncomfortable with his stance and left it at that.

After we left him, my security friend tells me the guy was transmitting via a voice operated mic, (only turns on when people speak) and that he was lying thru his teeth. When you transmit to a radio or other device it emits Radio Frequency Energy and it can be detected.
His pocket recorder device (neat stuff,too) shows a bar graph that displays when RF energy is detected. The guy was at the very least a cop but most likely DEA. :cuss:
SO BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!!
 
Excellent post! Thanks for the heads up, as I too have responded to ads for that same type of situation. Being old school, I have not met with or led on much, and now am glad that I made that decision. One instance was a man from Utah, Craigslist can be real sketch sometimes. Point is, there are still some hard asses out there who want only to bust people. Keep your guard up folks, it your gut gives you a funny feeling, follow it...
 

CLOSETGROWTH

Well-Known Member
Just a heads up to all:
The DEA is ACTIVELY trolling the state of Colorado, looking for busts to make NOW and in the near future. How do I know?

Because I met with one of thier scumbag trolls by answering a Craigslist ad. A close friend of mine also went with me to 'meet' this strange out of town fellow who said he was looking to setup shop here in the Colorado area. My friend works in the security field, so he is valuable to me for more reasons than I can count. I didn't say anyone was coming with me either and the other guy looked pissed that I brought someone along. :mrgreen:

Anyways, we meet with this stranger, he has a rental car, and says he's from out of state. We ask for some positive ID, he doesn't want to show us any.(claims ID theft a concern). We ask if he will consent to a pat-down and radio sweep (checks for bugs that transmit any conversation) and he says no reason to, he's clean. BS. Basically this jerk is looking for targets to hit NOW and in the very near future. He places Craigslist ads and wants to meet with you, to discuss things further. He will size you up and ask what growing methods you use, and what size your grow is. If you say Hydro he lights up like a pinball machine and gets real interested in your op. Wants to know how much you can provide and when, how many plants you grow, if you can grow at least 100 or more and what strains can you provide. After we decided this guy was FED, we told him we were uncomfortable with his stance and left it at that.

After we left him, my security friend tells me the guy was transmitting via a voice operated mic, (only turns on when people speak) and that he was lying thru his teeth. When you transmit to a radio or other device it emits Radio Frequency Energy and it can be detected.
His pocket recorder device (neat stuff,too) shows a bar graph that displays when RF energy is detected. The guy was at the very least a cop but most likely DEA. :cuss:
SO BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!!
Good call... ;-)

I smell Bacon!....ssssssssssuuuuuuweeeeee!!!
 

doogleef

Well-Known Member
Good post. Rep+ Thanks for sharing your experience. :clap: Stick to your instincts. With these rouge DEA bastards :cuss: running around applying federal statues to state legal operations in direct violation of the intent of the Justice Department and the President of the United States we all have to be very concerned. Stay frosty.
 

Dr. VonDank

Active Member
This is hurting the patients by driving the costs of medicine up. They need to stop with their harassment and leave the MJ community alone.
 

FuZZyBUDz

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sorry to say MCguyver, u might b in sum trouble already speaking to this being, it may b a major problem already?
 

wallimaster

Well-Known Member
was there a way your ip address was followed ,when you answered his add on craigslist? it might leed em right to your doorstep !!
 

justintym2

Member
everybody needs a job unfortunately we have the brown nosers that want to look like they are such a valuble part of the force..good one ars holes for not catching the killers and rapist but the stoner that support the groc. and fast food chains that pay your salaries ... im a patient and with out my meds , i would have a really bad time ... if you want to look cool go bust the meth heads and coke ,crack suppliers or they really just need to join our world fucin commies............europe is that way--------->
 

tical916

Well-Known Member
everybody needs a job unfortunately we have the brown nosers that want to look like they are such a valuble part of the force..good one ars holes for not catching the killers and rapist but the stoner that support the groc. and fast food chains that pay your salaries ... im a patient and with out my meds , i would have a really bad time ... if you want to look cool go bust the meth heads and coke ,crack suppliers or they really just need to join our world fucin commies............europe is that way--------->
Ya that sounds fishy as hell. The state needs to step in and protect their people.

Is this all over that idiot you bragged about his grow on the news?
 

artofscience

Active Member
Whatever happened to States' Rights? The Supreme Court is the only thing that stopped us. Maybe, since Obama has (relatively) supported decriminalization, and since there is so much sales tax revenue going to the local municipalities that allow dispensaries, we'll see a reverse of things like moratoriums and DEA involvement. We can only will that darker times don't come and unite quickly if they do.
 
Yeah, for some reason the feds think it's only the hydro growers that have loads of plants... but the most unfair thing is that as soon as a community decriminalizes... the feds creep in to bust them and thier dispensaries. Over Grow The Government!!!! They can't stop us!
 

Kash Krop

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holy shizzle. What type of device did you friend have that can detect wires?
Back in the day before the police & fire dept. radios went digital,I had a little device called a frequency scout.It picked up on any 2 way radios & would show you the freq. it was transmiting on.You had to get somewhat close to pick it up,maybe 150' or so.It would store these freq's so later you could program them into a scanner & listen in on the action.I had the #'s to every cop & narc in a 50 mile radius of where I lived & had a mobile scanner hidden in the glovebox of my car.Came in VERY handy more than one time.
 

Dirty Harry

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holy shizzle. What type of device did you friend have that can detect wires?
You can find them on the Internet via companies that sell spy and counter spy stuff. I have seen a detector that looks like a pager. You need to be the first person in the room and if anyone enters with anything that is transmitting, it will start vibrating. You may not know where the source is, but you will know its there. I have a pocket cell phone jammer that will block cell phones in a 20-30 foot radius. I will admit I got that just to mess with people when I am out and about :)
 

Big P

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cool guys ill make a thread about this gear and we can all post in it


ill post the link in 1 sec
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Law enforcement is tracking Americans' cell phones in real time—without the benefit of a warrant.

Amid all the furor over the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping program a few years ago, a mini-revolt was brewing over another type of federal snooping that was getting no public attention at all. Federal prosecutors were seeking what seemed to be unusually sensitive records: internal data from telecommunications companies that showed the locations of their customers' cell phones—sometimes in real time, sometimes after the fact. The prosecutors said they needed the records to trace the movements of suspected drug traffickers, human smugglers, even corrupt public officials. But many federal magistrates—whose job is to sign off on search warrants and handle other routine court duties—were spooked by the requests. Some in New York, Pennsylvania, and Texas balked. Prosecutors "were using the cell phone as a surreptitious tracking device," said Stephen W. Smith, a federal magistrate in Houston. "And I started asking the U.S. Attorney's Office, 'What is the legal authority for this? What is the legal standard for getting this information?' "

Those questions are now at the core of a constitutional clash between President Obama's Justice Department and civil libertarians alarmed by what they see as the government's relentless intrusion into the private lives of citizens. There are numerous other fronts in the privacy wars—about the content of e-mails, for instance, and access to bank records and credit-card transactions. The Feds now can quietly get all that information. But cell-phone tracking is among the more unsettling forms of government surveillance, conjuring up Orwellian images of Big Brother secretly following your movements through the small device in your pocket.

How many of the owners of the country's 277 million cell phones even know that companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint can track their devices in real time? Most "don't have a clue," says privacy advocate James X. Dempsey. The tracking is possible because either the phones have tiny GPS units inside or each phone call is routed through towers that can be used to pinpoint a phone's location to areas as small as a city block. This capability to trace ever more precise cell-phone locations has been spurred by a Federal Communications Commission rule designed to help police and other emergency officers during 911 calls. But the FBI and other law-enforcement outfits have been obtaining more and more records of cell-phone locations—without notifying the targets or getting judicial warrants establishing "probable cause," according to law-enforcement officials, court records, and telecommunication executives. (The Justice Department draws a distinction between cell-tower data and GPS information, according to a spokeswoman, and will often get warrants for the latter.)

The Justice Department doesn't keep statistics on requests for cell-phone data, according to the spokeswoman. So it's hard to gauge just how often these records are retrieved. But Al Gidari, a telecommunications lawyer who represents several wireless providers, tells NEWSWEEK that the companies are now getting "thousands of these requests per month," and the amount has grown "exponentially" over the past few years. Sprint Nextel has even set up a dedicated Web site so that law-enforcement agents can access the records from their desks—a fact divulged by the company's "manager of electronic surveillance" at a private Washington security conference last October. "The tool has just really caught on fire with law enforcement," said the Sprint executive, according to a tape made by a privacy activist who sneaked into the event. (A Sprint spokesman acknowledged the company has created the Web "portal" but says that law-enforcement agents must be "authenticated" before they are given passwords to log on, and even then still must provide valid court orders for all nonemergency requests.)

There is little doubt that such records can be a powerful weapon for law enforcement. Jack Killorin, who directs a federal task force in Atlanta combating the drug trade, says cell-phone records have helped his agents crack many cases, such as the brutal slaying of a DeKalb County sheriff: agents got the cell-phone records of key suspects—and then showed that they were all within a one-mile area of the murder at the time it occurred, he said. In the fall of 2008, Killorin says, his agents were able to follow a Mexican drug-cartel truck carrying 2,200 kilograms of cocaine by watching in real time as the driver's cell phone "shook hands" with each cell-phone tower it passed on the highway. "It's a tremendous investigative tool," says Killorin. And not that unusual: "This is pretty workaday stuff for us."
But there is also plenty of reason to worry.

Some abuse has already occurred at the local level, according to telecom lawyer Gidari. One of his clients, he says, was aghast a few years ago when an agitated Alabama sheriff called the company's employees. After shouting that his daughter had been kidnapped, the sheriff demanded they ping her cell phone every few minutes to identify her location. In fact, there was no kidnapping: the daughter had been out on the town all night. A potentially more sinister request came from some Michigan cops who, purportedly concerned about a possible "riot," pressed another telecom for information on all the cell phones that were congregating in an area where a labor-union protest was expected. "We haven't even begun to scratch the surface of abuse on this," says Gidari.
That was precisely what Smith and his fellow magistrates were worried about when they started refusing requests for cell-phone tracking data. (Smith balked only at requests for real-time information, while other magistrates have also objected to requests for historical data on cell-phone locations.) The grounds for such requests, says Smith, were often flimsy: almost all were being submitted as "2703(d)" orders—a reference to an obscure provision of a 1986 law called the Stored Communications Act, in which prosecutors only need to assert that records are "relevant" to an ongoing criminal investigation. That's the lowest possible standard in federal criminal law, and one that, as a practical matter, magistrates can't really verify. But when Smith started turning down government requests, prosecutors went around him (or "judge shopping," in the jargon of lawyers), finding other magistrates in Texas who signed off with no questions asked, he told NEWSWEEK. Still, his stand—and that of another magistrate on Long Island—started getting noticed in the legal community. Facing a request for historical cell-phone tracking records in a drug-smuggling case, U.S. magistrate Lisa Pupo Lenihan in Pittsburgh wrote a 56-page opinion two years ago that turned prosecutors down, noting that the data they were seeking could easily be misused to collect information about sexual liaisons and other matters of an "extremely personal" nature. In an unusual show of solidarity—and to prevent judge shopping—Lenihan's opinion was signed by every other magistrate in western Pennsylvania.

The issue came to a head this month in a federal courtroom in Philadelphia. A Justice Department lawyer, Mark Eckenwiler, asked a panel of appeals-court judges to overturn Lenihan's ruling, arguing that the Feds were only asking for what amounted to "routine business records." But he faced stiff questioning from one of the judges, Dolores Sloviter, who noted that there are some governments, like Iran's, that would like to use such records to identify political protesters. "Now, can the government assure us," she pressed Eckenwiler, that Justice would never use the provisions in the communications law to collect cell-phone data for such a purpose in the United States? Eckenwiler tried to deflect the question, saying he couldn't speak to "future hypotheticals," but finally acknowledged, "Yes, your honor. It can be used constitutionally for that purpose." For those concerned about what the government might do with the data in your pocket, that was not a comforting answer.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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U.S. Rep. Jared Polis, D-Boulder, wants "rogue" federal agents to lay off medical marijuana dispensaries after a raid at the home of Highlands Ranch grower on Feb. 12.
Tuesday, Polis sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder asking him to instruct agents to abide by the Justice Department's Oct. 19 directive to allow deference to state laws on legalized medical marijuana use, or to clarify the new position.
Polis posted his letter this afternoon on the progressive political website Square State. In a preamble he referred to "rogue agents ... harassing and raiding our medical marijuana dispensaries."
Reached by phone in Washington this evening, Polis also invoked the White House.

"I think President Obama has clearly stated his position on respecting states that have voted to allow medical marijuana," he said. "I believe the words and action of the agent in charge is in contradiction to the will of the voters of Colorado."

In the letter, he noted a Denver Post story on Feb. 13 that quoted DEA agent Jeffrey Sweetin as saying, "We're still going to continue to investigate and arrest people ... Technically, every dispensary in the state is in blatant violation of federal law."
The grower, Chris Bartkowicz, is free on $10,000 bond after his arrest on a drug-distribution charge. Drug Enforcement Administration agents seized 224 marijuana plants.
He did not return a call for comment this evening.
Justice Department and DEA spokespeople were not immediately available for comment.
Experts have called the case precedent-setting.
"It strikes fear in the hearts of many medical marijuana patients in Colorado, and that's unfortunate," Polis said in an interview.
 

souldoubt

Member
Just a heads up to all:
The DEA is ACTIVELY trolling the state of Colorado, looking for busts to make NOW and in the near future. How do I know?

Because I met with one of thier scumbag trolls by answering a Craigslist ad. A close friend of mine also went with me to 'meet' this strange out of town fellow who said he was looking to setup shop here in the Colorado area. My friend works in the security field, so he is valuable to me for more reasons than I can count. I didn't say anyone was coming with me either and the other guy looked pissed that I brought someone along. :mrgreen:

Anyways, we meet with this stranger, he has a rental car, and says he's from out of state. We ask for some positive ID, he doesn't want to show us any.(claims ID theft a concern). We ask if he will consent to a pat-down and radio sweep (checks for bugs that transmit any conversation) and he says no reason to, he's clean. BS. Basically this jerk is looking for targets to hit NOW and in the very near future. He places Craigslist ads and wants to meet with you, to discuss things further. He will size you up and ask what growing methods you use, and what size your grow is. If you say Hydro he lights up like a pinball machine and gets real interested in your op. Wants to know how much you can provide and when, how many plants you grow, if you can grow at least 100 or more and what strains can you provide. After we decided this guy was FED, we told him we were uncomfortable with his stance and left it at that.

After we left him, my security friend tells me the guy was transmitting via a voice operated mic, (only turns on when people speak) and that he was lying thru his teeth. When you transmit to a radio or other device it emits Radio Frequency Energy and it can be detected.
His pocket recorder device (neat stuff,too) shows a bar graph that displays when RF energy is detected. The guy was at the very least a cop but most likely DEA. :cuss:
SO BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!!
Dude, that is badass! You gotta come prepared if you're dealing on Craigslist for sure. I guess that's why I won't mess with it.

I was on another forum where a narc was selling clones to somone and was trying the hard sell for a 7th clone!! Dude refused and just got 6 and after she bolted the cops rolled up and interrogated the dude. I think they were state though... highway patrol or something.

So, yeah, you'll run into a lot of LEs on Craigslist. I won't go near it...
 
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